looks like a super standard fold, i am powning the table lets snap fold MARGINAL calls at best and shove all other hands...but once again i have no idea and u know everything so forget me

unless the guys shoving atc like a maniac which he really shouldnt be, its complete and utter play dependant and its most likely gunna be 0.01 diff at best and in this situation that in my books is a fold

If he is shoving ATC(or close to it) j6s is about 50% on a 2:1 odds.
And no i dont claim to know everything its just my opinion.

like i said atc is a snap call, if his shoving what he should be its a fold

but what is the optimal shove range in SB there? I thought it was ATC, at least very close

Villain was something like 30/15 and the short stack, I think he would have been shoving ATC here, I think maybe the only spot where I should fold here is against a nit. Guess it's closer than I thought though..

Here's another one, SNG Wiz has got me pushing more! Would anyone not push here??

I don't push there. In this spot I push AT+, but WARNING,I'm beginner

not even close, if ur calling wide like j6s its like 40ish % at a guess, the less BB u have the less FE u have, giving the caller greater pot odds, so you have to shove hands with value, u have people like chav doing pott equity calc's n calling wide cause of it, which means u cant shove wide here...atc is absurd

seems AT+ spot to me

very logical lol, need to take a rest of wizards quizzes and start to think a bit... thanks!

**** the quizzes of and review your hands with icm calculations, just start thinking before plugging in ranges, it's logical especially at low stakes where players are doing omg omg pot odds I can call super wide..

Once they do that it makes a horrid shove...

Now I know your the one calling in this spot, so if sb is a thinking player he won't shove atc, he will shove a range which makes this call break even..we play in 2013 making breakeven calls with a perfect Stack set up in which you can own the table is terrible..

And in fact I shove even tighter then the range I'm applying because I know players like chav call to wide making my shoves bad..

Ev wise ur calls marginally plus ev, but def not a spot to call marginally

One week ago I would have folded the A8, really don't like pushing from early position. SNG Wiz says it's a push. But like you say players seem to call very wide which perhaps makes it a bad play, I would usually struggle to push AT in that spot.

True, however i do it cause we are the big stack and for us its cEV call.If the call will affect my stack in any way i would consider the ICM application as well and call much tighter.
And i call wider in this spot because its correct not because i dont understand ICM(but in this case doesnt apply to us its like 15% of our stack closing the action)

your missing the point, ur taking MARGINAL spots when folding n powning is far more +ev your looking at the hand in a vacuum

Its not marginal though if SB is on like 80% j6s has around 49% equity on a 2:1 odds.Only if SB is shoving very tight you can pass some marginal edge to keep the bubble alive(a concept so old its like 2006 you sound like you reveal a holy grail of bubble poker)

Can someone sugest a program used to sort tables by how big the BB is, for example? If i multitable, and keep registering to other sngs, is there any posibility to have my tables arranged in this way ? I heard about PlaceMint or sth like that, but havent used it yet.

Also, as a curiosity, how do you guys multitable this kind of sngs? I personally like to register to many sngs, and play all the tables untill the end, and not register to any others untill i finish that session. So i quantify my play in number of sessions, not in hours of play. Do you keep registering to other sngs, while you play ? Any toughts regarding this subject?

Thnx

countinuely regging so u have your max tables up is the way to maximise your hourly assuming you can play just as well

Hey,
I started grinding the 15 turbos a month ago and am doing pritty good after 4k games...but am unsure about some bubble spots.

heres an example below...i have icmizer tellig me im good jaming here, but then again it says its +ev to jam atc when their calling tight





Can someone also please suggest a good HUD. I currently use
vpip/pfr/hands
sb stl/sb limp/total stl
I am thinking of adding a line with some sort of filtered stats for vpip/pfr/steal, where i would filter for #bbs.
Any thoughts on this anyone?


Thanks!!!

@BETZ Not sure how you organize tables by what the BB is at but I tend to stack an initial number of tables and then later make another stack with newer tables that I add whilst playing, this way I have a separate stack for the tables which are coming closer to bubble.

@Pop I guess it depends what kind of player the big stack is, if he's tight I wouldn't hesitate to shove here but I'd be more cautious against a calling station or very aggressive opponent.

I don't think people like to post their HUD's on here but most players seem to use VPIP/PFR/AGG%/3BET/F23Bet/STEAL/F2Steal some also add donk bet, flop and turn cbet% also

Hey There

I have only played couple of hundreds of these and doing decent, but struggle a little with playing "decent" hands on bubble. Below 2 hands I am not sure what is correct move due to ICM etc.


So first hand. UTG is a random who has been playing pretty tight so far, playing 15/9 over 70 hands. As there are two shorter stacks, and two superfish at the table do you consider just flatting here and get it in on a clean flop or even fold and hang around till the fish bust each other?



Second hand - villain was a reg and hence shoving very wide in this spot I guess. Is this a correct call? and if not with what range you call here?

1st hand flat and get it in on any flop that is heads up
2nd hand is same as first?

Call both.

call first, fold 2nd

thanks for the reply caesar882

FFS! I messed up hand histories -.-

so 2nd hand was actually supposed to be this one: