Fine. I'll make an open offer of a $100 prop bet. Even money.

I'll bet that not all the money that was intended for the charity actually made it there. If anyone has faith in Bogan's reputability this should be a free $100. I'll shut up afterwards.

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Remember you owe me two coaching sessions?

Way to kill his action.

Yes, PM me please and we will get this taken care of.

If Rowniwn isn't questioning me then you all know something is amiss.

Obviously something is amiss when we haven't heard from him for almost 3 months. I can tell you for sure that not all the money has made its way to charity or anywhere else, as I am still holding 5k of that. About where he is and what happened to the rest of the money I know as much as you do.

Thanks. Let's keep this as a discussion about Bogan's probable thievery. We can talk about what a jerk I am in the censored thread. My intuition is rarely wrong about these kinds of things.

If I recall correctly, you never doubted Dean's intentions, you just disliked his forum persona.

Most people in this thread are genuinely concerned for his well-being, and you come in here to say "I TOLD YOU SO!". Nice.

I don't think anyone's concerned about his well-being. I'm sure he's fine.

Is it really so crazy that on a gambling forum, where many unscrupulous posters have run scams under the guise of raising money for charity, that I'd have a healthy dose of cynicism?

Let's be real -- this isn't going to end well. He'll get coerced into eventually posting and give us some heartfelt "excuse" on why the money got diverted from its intended use.

Ok first of all, everyone who knows bogan a little better is legit concerned about his well being and has every reason to, because his body has been through a lot the last 20 years.
That being said I of course do not blame anyone for not giving a **** about it.

Second of all, even though I have no idea what actually happened to that money, if he stole it, gambled it away or its just still in his account, I am 99% percent sure that he did not set up this scam in the first place. Meaning that the idea for that charity thing did not come out of the intention to steal the money.

Again, I'm not saying he did not steal it, just saying that I am very sure that this wasn't his intention when he came to me with that idea.

Not that it would matter much anyway, we need to find out what happened to that money.

Given the circumstances, most people would probably agree it's more likely there's something fishy going on than anything else. You shouldn't be upset or surprised when a person - a professional gambler no less - thinks in terms of expectation.

+1 to everything rowniwn has posted.

Last I heard Dean seemed excited about some outside of poker business ventures that were in the works. Its plausible that he has severed off poker communications for mental health reasons but there are obviously other plausible versions of what has happened here that are far less positive.

Fwiw I always found Dean to be an amicable and charismatic guy but things can take dark turns and mistakes can be made. Fingers crossed he is ok and I would be surprised if in the short to medium term this is not all explained and resolved

This is almost undoubtedly false, Ppl who know bogan are way more concerned about his health than him stealing 5k. He runs a stable, has many friends in the community and has a perfect reputation from what I know. He's not robbing 5k from charity, he's not that guy. Maybe ill eat my words later on down the road ,but i highly doubt it.

The part itt that upsets me the most:



Agreed with Rowniwn 100% about everything he said and that doesn't happen often. Hope everything's fine with Bogan, doesn't strike me as a guy who'd hit and run for a measly $5k.

If he is running a stable, how are the horses getting money off him at the moment then?

Is there someone else who deals with that side of it foe him.

Also +1 to Rowniwn

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More important than the date is what he texted you.

Can 100% confirm he is neither dead or incapacitated, not sure what's going on with the charity stuff though.

This isn't a joke and I'm not Dean, just thought I'd let you guys know since some of you seemed genuinely concerned about his health.

If Bogan would have wanted to scam people out of money he would have had a thousand easier and more profitable ways to do so. Really hope he is good.

IF TT fold wanted to seem more of a douchebag than what he seems to be from just the posts itt, and the charity one, he would not have any way of doing so.

I was a horse of his. We weren't able to get reloads for like the last 2 months. There was another person who was also investing in the stable- he told me I was free to leave (in makeup) and look for another deal.

bolded would have been me in the past, and I'd been in talks with Dean throughout November and December with regard to helping out again in 2013 as he told me he was unlikely to be around much in Jan/Feb due to IRL commitments. I've no interest in divulging any more than that, but suffice to say Dean didn't get back to me so I've been unable to help anywhere near as much as I would have liked to. I'm genuinely concerned for his well being, and I hope to hear from him soon.

it's certainly understandable why people would have their suspicions...

i think we'd all like to hear what's up. hope for good health/well-being and a happy ending

I text him on behalf of one of (at the time) his horses. He insta replying saying he would be online that afternoon to talk with the horse. As far as I know, according to the horse he wasn't online that afternoon.

Found out the date was 21 Jan.