Agreed, but thats why I am going to keep bringing up, and do my part to push change.

I agree.

Let's bring up a specific example. From what I understand, WSOP now offers a card match for Diamond and above. Meaning if you earn Diamond online, they will give you a Diamond status in the B&M casino. I already earned Diamond from my B&M play, but my online play has not come close on that site so I haven't verified that personally. That is based on what I have read online. If I am wrong or have misunderstood that, please feel free to fill in the blanks.

In any event, some similar kind of card matching / upgrade might be a good first step for Party / Borgata. Platinum Elite = Black card. What do you think?

I also think that OKTerrific's cross promotion idea would help to drive play, by giving more incentives for B&M players to play online and vice versa.

Thoughts?

This is far from true.

At 5/10 NL you pay $12 an hour in rake, 2/5 is $10/he and I think nosebleed games don't collect more than $20/hr in time.

It doesn't take 400+ hours of play to see comp rooms. Far from it.

I made my post very clear. Either you didn't read it carefully or you don't understand how B&M casinos work at all. I am talking about what it takes to get a Friday night or Saturday night comp room or discount room. And I made it very clear that I wasn't talking about poker action at all. I was talking about the action they expect you to gamble against the house, such as with slots, craps, blackjack, etc.

There is a poker room Casino host who may give people special room deals and comps for playing $5/10 NL. But the casino does not care about your $12-$20 an hour in rake, even when you are playing 10 hours plus.

No it doesn't take 400+ hours of play to see comp rooms. They will generally comp you Monday - Thursday 1 night a week for normal levels of play. But you will never get a Friday night room.

They would rather have somebody make one trip and gamble $10,000, than have a player who makes 10 trips and gambles $1000 each time. The rake you are giving them from poker is not the same as the action "against the house" I was explicitly talking about.

Apologies, I did misread your post.

However, when calculating comps the amount you bet is not the bottom line, they are primarily interested in your average daily theoretical loss.

The house edge is under well under 2% for many table games. (Most craps bets, black jack, baccarat etc)

This means that they can expect to profit less than $100 per trip from a player who makes $5k worth of bets each visit at games other than the really bad ones like slots, 3card, let it ride etc

Personally I average 8-12 hours a day of 2/5, with occasional shots at 5/10nl and 10/20 limit games and am consistently offered 2 nights a week sun-thurs, and an occasional friday during winter. Other than poker, I've probably played less than 3 hours of craps and blackjack in the last year. I have noticed that in the last couple months I've received fewer thursdays and fridays, but they are still there. I have two fridays offered in Feb as of now. I've maintained black card status for 2 years now.

To emphasize, your daily theo loss is whats most important. So if you plan on only playing for a couple hours or less of poker on a day, it's best to not even give them a card (or swipe your card anywhere else on property) as this will reduce your daily average.

You are 100% right about their metrics. While both things matter, theoretical loss certainly matters more than total bets / action. However, the average daily loss they expect from a B&M player is a lot higher than what most online players contribute in rake in the average week. That's the main point I was trying to make.

In my case, I gambled quite heavily away from poker and often would get weekends comped. What I found was that when I played poker, even sometimes for 16 hours straight, it would actually hurt my rating and my comp offers would diminish.

Your offers are way above the norm for a "poker-only" player. If you don't mind my asking, how often do you make trips? Clearly they rate you as a "good player" and I hope you do well at that $5/$10 game. Sometimes it can be quite good, and I have known players to have huge swings in that game.

Hi

Our mobile MTTs are coming very soon!

With regards to your other feedback I have sent this to the relevant team for review along with similar comments and will feedback when possible.

Kind regards,

Colette

How come there aren't $5 and $10 MTT tickets available in the points store? Would be nice if there were. Would be even better if they were just T$ instead that you could use however you liked.

Can you use like 10 $1 mtt tickets to buy into a $10 mtt?

Hi

With regards to the store and T$ on offer - this is something under review

You can not unfortunately buy in to a $10 with multiple tickets - sorry


Thanks,

Colette

Colette, it's all kind of useless if you can't log in, or the system crashes or disconnects every 5 minutes.

PPrep Colette ... ending the policy of converting unused tournament tix to T$ with out prior warning...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=8706

please lets change this at least for current tix. and lets get our T$.

Hi all,

FYI - MULTI-TABLE TOURNAMENTS ADDED TO NEW JERSEY MOBILE

Multi-table tournaments (MTT) have arrived on iOS and Android allowing you to play online - quicker and easier than ever before.


Please see the thread for further details

Thanks,

Colette

I would like to see a better selection and I will wish you guys good luck getting it together. You guys might want to let players start any table they want . WSOP has 9 max sngs and you guys don't. Wouldn't you want to offer everything that is in demand? What is the strategy behind limiting games to such a low selection.? I know people that don't like 6 max sngs and only play 9 max. I am not crazy about 6 max either but its all you guys got. If you want to have players then give the players what they want. A few questions.

1. How much poker background does the management team have(The management that decides the games to offer)? How much online poker have they played?

2. Why would you think less games and limiting options would be attractive to potential new players? When I can't tell my friend ," hey get on partypoker there are 9 max sngs" because there are none.

3. What is the strategy behind less games and the sheer lack of 9 max sngs, multi table sngs such as 18 max, 27 max, 45 max, and 180 max? Why not have $20, $50, and $100 buy in non-guaranteed tournaments (house would not risk any overlay) every 2 hours throughout the day so people could really play anytime at any level they want. Nobody cares about these little $5 and $10 dollar tournaments. People would get used to what time their favorite tournament was and the game would develop each day, week , and month. You would have more deposits and more money floating around the site, which would be more profit.

4. Is there anyone in the management team that has had this idea? I would like to know what the discussion was around the table.

Bob says " Let's have $50 and $100 dollar non-guaranteed tournaments all day to attract more money and more players. But Opie who is in charge says " No Bob we wanna over think this one and shoot small. We don't want to give the customer too many options and bigger games. Lets only have $5 and $10 dollar games all day. It should really work to aim small and reel in the customers."

Bob replies" Doesn't bigger games and more tournaments mean people will have to deposit more and then when they win bigger prizes throughout the day they will play other tournaments and cash games that we can rake. Doesn't higher prizes attract more people, 200 bucks for first isn't that sexy? How do you think Full Tilt and Pokerstars got so big ? By offering only $5 and $10 dollar games and having no multi table sngs?"

Opie responds with " Well Bob thanks for your input but we really want to just think small on this and aim small. We stand to make more money offering only $5 and $10 weak $250 guarantees throughout the day instead of giving players what they want and thinking big. Were going small Bob but thanks for showing up."

5. Whose idea was that and what could they possibly be thinking? Not every tournament has to be guaranteed. What do you stand to lose by offering more games and options?

WHOSE GREAT IDEA WAS IT TO CUT OUT THE $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100 HEADS UP SIT N GO TURBOS? 888 AND WSOP OFFER THESE, BUT YOU GUYS WANTED TO BE SPECIAL AND GET RID OF THEM? YOU ARE TRYING TO FORCE US REGS ONTO OTHER GAMES WE DO NOT WANT ANY PART OF AND INSTEAD HAVE TO SWITCH SITES!

HORRIBLE THINKING GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN. ALL OTHER MAJOR SITES OFFER HEADS UP TURBO SIT N GO'S AT THOSE LEVELS. I BET POKER STARS WILL TOO WHEN THEY ENTER THE MARKET. WHY WOULD YOU GET RID OF SOMETHING THE OTHER 2 SITES IN NJ OFFER? HEADS UP IS FAST TURNOVER, HOW CAN YOU BE LOSING MONEY ON THESE?

I AM STARTING TO THINK YOU HAVE BUSINESS PEOPLE WITH NO POKER EXPERIENCE RUNNING THIS SITE, AND YOU DON'T LISTEN TO ANY OF THE REGS OR PLAYERS THAT HAVE SPENT THOUSANDS IN RAKE ON YOUR SITE. WE THE CUSTOMERS MATTER!!

Get rid of the heads up tables. We have enough trouble getting higher stakes 6max games started already. Recreational players go broke exponentially faster at heads up tables as opposed to 6max. Eliminating them would result in 6max games running far more often than they do now.

Lower the heads up rake at 6max tables. It is currently twice what it is at heads up tables. This high rake strictly penalizes regs who are trying to start games and contribute to the health of the site. If a recreational player sits heads up with a reg that game stays heads up for about two hands. There is no reason to further discourage the handful of regs in this state willing to play each other from doing so.

^^ why would you ever get rid of heads up to filter them into 6 mans? pat i hate to say it, but you don't have a big enough player pool to run 6 maxs for just the state of nj and let alone on one site to become highly profitable like it was in the stars and tilt days...
Next, Doing away with heads up turbos is beyond stupid and as a "reg" that has been grinding them for the past 7 years I can't believe party poker got rid of them and left hypers..I am still waiting for an answer as to why these games were pulled, it is beyond stupid. It is 1 of 3 things..1) the people making these decisions are completely clueless and think any heads up can be the same thing. 2.) they wanted to be greedy and funnel everyone to hypers to generate more rake ( which makes me believe they could give two sh*ts about the players) in which they will lose money bc reg heads up players will go to other sites. or 3) with this stupid 6 max promotion they are running as the post above me stated and they want to discourage heads up turbos and get more into 6 maxs...
I am going to go with a with about 50 % of option 2 and 25% of 1 and 3....Whoever makes these boneheaded decisions should be fired because they obviously have 0 clue as to what they are doing...The best is, as much help as my VIP host is, I still can't get a direct answer as to why they were cut bc he can't get in touch with that team and they don't have emails or phones...partypoker did have the best heads up system running and im sure it generated plenty of rake an hour, more than 6 max tornys will and they will soon realize that...However it might be too little too late as I know me and a few other people will be moving to a different site if this is not fixed. I am sure another site would love to pick up the head up regs and have their traffic and money on there...The whole move is beyond stupid and has me outraged....Not to mention you add 2 heads up weekly tornys then remove that game from your lobbies for regular play bunch of dopes running the daily decisions... Don't even get me started on your tournament schedule and qualifiers
edit: its 2:30 AM Im pist and dont feel like proofing this, goodluck at the tables fellas

+1 happy i am not the only heads up reg on here upset about this. Thank you TPR.

Hi all,

Quick schedule update - Starting 9th Feb - we will have daily 6max MTTs running at 22:30 ET with a $35 buy in.

Feedback as always appreicated.

Thanks

Colette

^^ and what about sng HUs? honestly you guys messed up royally taking those off your site and leaving hypers up....do a little research and realize thats a descent % of the online world of poker...I doubt ill get an answer though bc I havent from anyone yet

^(TPR117)
Turn on your Private Messages. Trying to message you, but you have them off.

THIS IS A GREAT SUGGESTION. I hope the Reps consider this

He has to post some number of times before he gets PM access.

Oh yeah..how noobish of me. Thank you sir.

What? How so? What makes you think the REG HEADS UP PLAYERS ARE GOING TO PLAY RING GAMES INSTEAD?

Once again you are not concerned because you don't play heads up so this doesn't affect you.

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