I can understand that. You may think I'm arrogant or intolerant of people with different views. I used to think that way. As I see more and more injustice in the world due to religious lines of thinking, I've evolved into ridiculing and mocking people who are overly religious. When I say overly, I mean that they let it influence their thoughts and opinions on what others can and should do with their lives.

You may dislike the way I think, but if you think the way I think is worse than the way religious people think something is wrong.

BTW I don't believe I'm all that hateful. I just don't stand for that crap anymore. It doesn't "deserve respect", and I don't care if they are "offended". **** them.


You're very moderate in your way of thinking. I'm not that moderate when it comes to this subject anymore. Too many people are enablers. They believe in things that are less extreme than what others believe, but they still believe in things that aren't true. Believing in things that aren't true enable others to believe in things that aren't true also - except they are more dangerous.

If someone believes there is a man in the sky who listens to their thoughts and prayers and sometimes answers them, then how can they judge against a person who may do something like faith healing for their child who has cancer? That child dies due to this behavior, yet they may or may not pass judgment on whether they should suffer some sort of criminal penalty. Why? They both believe in the same crap, except one believes it may save their child while the other goes to the doctor like a normal ****ing person.

It's so absurd it's mind-boggling.

Your views are bad and you should feel bad. I'm actually not sure who I'd find worse irl out of you and dibbers.

Edit: and no, the way of thinking jj put forward is not modest, it's what most people think when they get past their angsty athiest stage at 21 or whatever age. Congrats on never getting there

I believe exactly the same in reverse. I don't think my views are bad at all. I don't go around denouncing random people and making them feel bad. Religious people do that all the time.

You want to defend that side? I view that position as idiocy.

By the way, I really couldn't give a **** less what you think about me, or whoever dibbers is. I don't even know why you mention it, knowing that I don't care about your opinion of me.

**** that?

Why are you using foul language?

So much for freedom, so much for being unchained.

What is the real reason you wont allow me to post the thread?

How about the completely insincere apology that was followed up almost immediately with a request for something you wanted. You know who does that? My 5 year old. "I'm sorry mommy, can I have this candy bar now?" You're such a joke

LOL you just denounced the majority of the world doofus. You can't be for real

I apologized because I do not want to hurt others feelings. I still take issue when folks suggest that Jews are more intelligent then Muslims,or vs versa. I also take issue when folks suggest that Muslims/Arabs are more dangerous when compared to Jews, or vs versa.

As I have said before, and in the words of a noted Jewish columnist from Israel, Political Islam and political Judaism can be dangerous.

This is an adult discussion board, not your own house. I posted a relevant thread, or at least I wanted to, and here you are, posting the above...

Yeah, I think most religious people are idiots (I think you're an idiot also). I don't go around denouncing them over it in public, you know, like preachers do?

Man, this bigot is sure testing thekid's pledge to avoid calling people bigots.

Part of why I posted the thread that was locked, was because of the above^^^.

Take this will guy, he feels strongly about his views. PU mods, why not reopen my thread so folks like will can contribute their views on Muslims/Jews to the thread?

I thought I was talking to an adult? And while I definitely swear way too often, I'd suggest you just get over it in this context..



I 100% gave you the real reason. Hell, it doesn't even make me look good. It just comes down to me personally seeing no value in that thread and me being generally lazy and avoiding work.

If you want to have a discussion - have a discussion. But that involves things like words and expressing of ideas. You just posted offensive pictures and asked how offensive people found them.

But for that discussion to be worthwhile it needs to be:

1. An actual discussion.
2. Not posting hateful things to see if they're too hateful or not.

Not in public, just on a message board read by thousands of people. Gotcha.

Nah but that's not as bad as preachers and the head of Westboro which is like, 90% of religious people right?

I have previously made an argument that folks in Yemen are good people who would welcome a guest into their home.

Now does anyone here take issue with this statement?

Because to me, Al Qaeda in Yemen, and the People of Yemen, are not the same. Here in the USA, we dont agree with 100% of the views of our Gov, same can be said for Yemen. Now of course, groups like Al Qaeda poses a threat to the good people of Yemen, and more so then here in the USA.

But in response to folks who may suggest that a westerner in Yemen is a dead man walking, take a look at this guy, who went to Yemen,

Was it safe in the end? Well, I’ll dedicate an entire post to that topic soon. Right now, all I’ll say is that I am extremely happy I traveled to Yemen and I never really felt as if I was in any real danger at any time during my trip. In fact, I wish I could have stayed for a much longer period of time.

http://www.wanderingearl.com/why-i-t...r-my-vacation/

This means absolutely nothing to thekid. He knows exactly what he is doing.

Ehh. I don't even dish it out too hard on people here. There are many religious people in some forums I could really go after. I mostly don't. I let my opinions be known about it but even then I don't ridicule them much. Just a little.

What is it with you people? You come up with these examples or these ideas that go beyond anything that I've said. People just make things up.

I've never said anything closely resembling what you are implying. I've specifically pointed out the type of thinking I'm against. I've never said anything close to this phantom 90% figure you're spewing out of no where.

I'd say most religious people really don't believe in most of what their religions actually teach. We should be thankful for that. All those hypocrites make life bearable on this planet. If 90% of religious people actually believed in the bible in a mostly literal way, we'd be in much worse shape than we are now. Just imagining that scenario is ghastly.

As I've said before, if you really do believe in these fairy tales, they should respect even more the people who go to faith healers with their children in hopes of a miracle and those who fly airplanes into buildings. They at least have the courage of their convictions. The rest of you are all just fakes who can't go against some sort of social acceptance. I'd call it almost cowardice.

But whatever.

I believe people should be allowed to bring their children to faith healers instead of hospitals.

Now see, we have something serious to argue about.

Do you mean they can skip medical treatment and just go with the faith healing? That's a pretty hard thing to argue for.

Hey, at least you have some belief.

If the child was in a condition where the parents would be guilty of neglect if they didn't take them to a hospital/doctor would it still be okay to take them to a faith healer instead?

Every once in a while he steps away from his "but the Muslims are good people!" button and says something worth writing about.

(Not that he is right or wrong about "Muslims", just that it's such a simple, un-nuanced, meaningless position to take).

Why even bother with him? I just skip over his posts or read them like I would read a 5 year old's drawings on a fridge.

He says there are Muslims in his family. So, I guess he's a 17yo Catholic kid in the Midwest and maybe his older sibling married a Muslim. He'd never met a Muslim before and was shocked that his brother in law turned out to be a regular human.

1. My biggest problem with the children issue is that they're being forced to follow the beliefs of the parents (even if they agree with the parents its not really informed consent).

2. People can believe in both science and 'fairy tales'. Many people's beliefs aren't contradictory to science.

3. The universe is clearly WAY more complex than we can know/understand at this point. It's ridiculous to claim that 'science' has all of the answers. At some point we have to say we don't know. If some people choose to fill that in with a deity - cool.