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Originally Posted by swissmiss
Nothing I said fits any definition of a truther or a holocaust denier or a horse****er I could find anywhere. You keep asking me to bring up points I see wrong in the 9/11 report. Why would I have to? Saying some parts are made up to a point and in the next sentence saying that doesn't mean the events didn't happen as described should not be a controversial position in a sane society. Edit: But ok, omissions is the better word I should have used, as I said before.
Saying that parts are "made up" necessarily implies fabrication, or at the very least, inference which you find of dubious merit. Your use of double negative in the following sentence leaves tons of room for a limited number of events to not have taken place as described by the commission, even if many did. "Omissions" is in no way synonymous with parts being "made up."
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Maybe it was unclear what I meant with "the events happened as described". I was referring to the event where al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four airliners and intentionally crashed two planes into the World Trade Center buildings and one into the Pentagon, with another unintentionally crashing in a field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania and then buildings falling down. But that should have been at least somewhat clear when my next sentence was: Doesn't mean 9/11 was orchestrated by the government or some Jewish cabale. Or should I have said that I don't think xyz instead of doesn't mean?
Jiggs Casey believes that the towers fell as the commission reported, but he's also a 9/11 truther. There are a lot of different flavors of truther. Maybe you're not a "Jewish Cabal" truther, but you still sound a whole lot like a LIHOP truther.
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I wasn't making a point about my beliefs about 9/11 at that time. It was a point about what evidence to take into account. I don't take almost any evidence by truthers into account at all. I am only saying "almost" because I don't know whom else you consider to be a truther just on a tell. They still could be up to something (edit: and by that I don't mean anything involving planes or buildings), and even if they are not, the scorn they get I don't understand. Either they have something relevant to say or not. But I am maybe being to lenient here.
Probably.
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For what it is worth I have linked to the valid criticism on the English wiki that does not contest anything involving any planes or any buildings. The german wiki contains way more valid criticism, that does not contest anything involving any planes or any buildings, funny how that works
Yeah, and that was part of the confusion. I asked you what parts were made up, and you linked to an article that only criticized things that weren't there, not things that were there and that were made up.
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Should we go through it point by point?
It would certainly clear things up.
Points like "...the report skirts the question of whether American policies and actions fed the anger that manifested itself on September 11," are valid criticism of the report and not truther material, but such points are hardly consistent with parts of the report being "made up."
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I have some more points that are not from wikipedia and involve Scheuer or other at least controversial people I am not too keen to bring up with you because you get so over the top insulting.
OK