Seems like your beef should be with the State Dept then.

Sure we can debate their definition of death caused by terrorist.

But they didn't make the chart. Apparently toothy did. With data pulled from the state dept. At links different than the ones he provided as his sources which didn't actually have the data.

You literally have no clue what we're arguing about. Your lizard brain just immediately goes into "defend racist bigot" mode.

Post from yesterday.

Just trying to look into it. Didn't you just say you wasted an hour verifying, and the data was accurate?

Yes the data for that chart is accurate as now claimed. (death due to all terrorists 2006-2015)

The point was TS shouldn't be playing the victim about how this had to go on for pages and pages yada yada yada meow chow when that was all his own fault.

Meh, after this and also seeing the other thing you "corrected" him on about 1/4 French Muslims sympathizing with ISIS, when the Newsweek link he provided says 16% of French citizens support ISIS, which is probably much more concerning, right? I think TS is probably getting sloppy, but you guys aren't really refuting him much either. It just looks like many of you have a rage boner for him, but maybe you could point me to his real lies and I'll change my tune.

Hopefully you'll be surprised with how simple this is:

What Muslims believe is a religion topic.

We can learn what happens when it is manufactured into a pseudo-political topic. That thread.

What does unregulated prejudicial argument do to any given Muslim's beliefs ? Nothing? Anything? What influence is really that impressive here? We are talking about human beings when referencing Muslims. If we leave any of them out of our graphs and flowcharts of their beleifs, are we telling a worthwhile honest narrative?

BTW- I'd leave the thread as a monument of how to create confusion and make impressions more than one of information of what to expect from Muslim neighbors. A religion forum would be the smart place to discuss what it might mean for a Muslim to move near you. IMO

I don't think I was involved in looking into that other "correction" at all.

But you not having an issue with not presenting accurate sourced information (when not just purporting to be giving an opinion) says a lot more about you than it does me.

Yeah probably. Since you haven't yet shown me one place where he's posted innacurate sources, and I've been swarmed for years by you and others with lies and smears of bigotry about me, I'm probably not going to be too concerned about your cries of inaccurately sourced material or bigotry.

Well then, carry on in your ignorance.

I don't know why we have to drag cheeseplow into this.

How many times will a poster be allowed to ignore the rules regarding citing sources correctly and not deliberately misinterpreting data to suit his agenda?

General question lol.

Says the clownshoes that gish-gallops for 1000 words at a time.

I mean, look at all the bull**** to unpack in just that paragraph above.

And then behold the torrent behind it.

Ok, so, am I the only 1 fascinated and disturbed by the fact that the bold below didn't actually happen like this.

I mean, it's all right there to read again.

Bonus Prize: Note how noted scholar and exhaustive source-citer ToothSayer doesn't actually link to the thread, or quote it, or provide a post number, or even mention which thread the example is from?

Double Bonus Prize x 2: Guess why that is.

I mean, I'm just here to mock idiots and deplorable simpletons and pseudointellectuals whilst I wait for the end of the world, BUT, AGAIN, if anybody wants to actually make this a real forum I'm only trying to help with my little 2c here and there.

I did mod BBV4L and NVG. This kiddie-game nonsense is not new, it's just the extremely well-dressed Smrt Poltcl Discrse version.

What is this? You have some sort of witch-hunt against TS and his data/sources.

Let's end it right here - what data did he post that was the most egregiously incorrect or misleading, and let's get this argument over with, because you guys sitting here disparaging him for his sources has gotten to the point of idiocy.

Keep in mind, he's a very well respected poster in BFI, a forum where being correct about information actually means something.

Make your claim against one of his incorrect posts, and let us be the judge.

I have done exactly that elsewhere and don't have to answer to the likes of you. What are you, his housemaid? DYOR.

I'm not anything, I'm just tired of reading these posts in every thread. You are the ones who go on and on about it and cry to Chez about it. Hash it out already and end the issue so you don't have to spam the forum across multiple threads about it.

I'll ask you point blank : what is the single worst piece of data he posted and why is it incorrect? Post it here with YOUR argument of why it's totally disingenuous and let's put it to rest already. Jesus Christ how long are you going to go on about this?

If you've already posted about it, just tell us which thread and which post # with the evidence and let's get this over with. wtf?

No, I've never complained to chez about anything, apart from one post from someone or other I reported a few days ago because it breached one of his rules.

I don't know who you think you are demanding that people tell you this or tell you that lol. If I actually gaf what someone's lackey thought I'd answer their questions.

In case you didn't notice, you are not, could not be and never will be a mod here, so I don't know what makes you think you can jump into a question I was asking of chez about the moderation of 7.0 when you have nothing of value to add.

please note that you posted this in the MODERATION thread.


I'm no one, but I'm a person who is calling you out on your bull****. See above.


Thank God for all of us.


You asked, not me. I called you out on it. Stop going on about it like an old woman.

One more time, which thread and which post # did you prove TS was lying?

It's really a simple question. You don't even have to make an argument, I'm just asking you to point me in the right direction.

fyp

I'll take "Almost everything he ever posted about Islam from the birth of Muhammad to the Mongol invasion from the east hundreds of years later" for $8800, Alex.

Well here's the thing wil. If you'd asked in a non-confrontational way I'd have happily linked you, but I feel it's time for some tough parental love because that's they only way you'll ever learn to start conversations non-horribly.

You made the claim. I'm only asking you to let me look at it myself. You wanted to cry to the mod about something, I'm only asking you to tell me where the proof is that TS is a liar.

You keep saying it, I just want to look at it for myself. I really don't see the problem.

If you want me to say please, then, please, show me what you are talking about.