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Originally Posted by kerowo
This is what happens when you make ****ty arguments made from anecdotal evidence and refuse to acknowledge multiple studies that refute your point.
Again, you do NOT understand what you are looking at. The purpose of many of these articles are to push an agenda. There is no real doubt about the amount of sex different groups are having, as I've explained a LONG time ago when defending this argument. I assume the mass majority of us in this thread are heterosexual males. If we are being honest, we know that the frequency of sex is determined by the females. In a sexual group where two men are the deciders, sex will happen more frequently.
It's not controversial to say if it were solely up to men the frequency of sex would go up. Does that mean we can't have different situations where that isn't true? Of course not, some women are absolutely insatiable. That, however, isn't the norm and not what we assume, in general.
When you read articles like this, what do you come away with?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/noah-m...b_7983636.html
As if the New York Times article isn’t bad enough, earlier this week, in an op-ed for Elite Daily, Thomas Caramanno felt compelled to rail against “certain gay men who objectify other men and change sex partners as frequently as their 2(x)ist underwear” and who are giving a bad name to the gay men who “are currently in, or are actively pursuing, romantic relationships, [and] revere notions of monogamy and family.”
Caramanno is disturbed by “the male gaze” and the way that he has been groped in gay clubs and “eyed by guys the way a hungry CrossFitter stares down a packet of bacon” (which, if you ask me, sounds pretty hot) but most shocking to him is that he’s “been told by some men that this behavior is normal, acceptable and even desirable” (oh boy, he’s just going to love this piece, isn’t he?).
Ultimately, he wants us to “strive to attach a different kind of value to sex, one that does not use it as the sole basis of our collective identify and mode of communication,” which, when you peel away the hyperbole (because, as much as I love sex, it’s obviously not the sole basis of my identity or mode of communication), is essentially exactly what so many of our straight counterparts want from us. And he’s not alone. I can’t count the number of times that I’ve heard other queers saying things like “isn’t it time we grow up and stop wearing jock straps on Pride floats?” or “how are we supposed to demand equal rights if we can’t stop being so promiscuous?” And all of that kind of thinking is... well... aside from reeking of sexphobia and internalized homophobia... just plain gross.
We know what is going on here when we look at it from a higher view. Gay marriage is now accepted, and raising children and families and gay relationships becoming more "conservative" is the trend. It is VERY important in the gay community to be looked at as typical of any other community. I mean, even in the article it says
“how are we supposed to demand equal rights if we can’t stop being so promiscuous?”
There is an agenda there. It is to push the narrative that "we are all the same", even though this gay man's perspective is that WE AREN'T. There's nothing wrong with it, just as there's nothing wrong with women who have many sexual partners is perfectly fine. Yet, some people will pass judgement about it (people like YOU, I might add) and make decisions based on these factors which really don't matter. That's why it's an issue!
Read:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0ab468d9f6211
“When I published the piece about liking having sex, I had people stopping me on the street, people I’ve never met before, and they said, ‘Thank you, because no one’s talking about this,” Michelson told host Caroline Modarressy-Tehrani. “On the other hand, people are saying that I’m a pervert, and that I’m ruining it for all of us, and why can’t I just behave myself? And it’s immature to act that way, and that’s how a teenager would act. I think that’s the thing about sex positivity — that it’s very threatening.”
I mean, the authors are SPELLING IT OUT FOR YOU. They are actually telling you exactly where they are coming from and what is changing in that community.
Read:
http://elitedaily.com/life/the-male-...-gays/1160636/
]However, it would be a grave dishonesty to forgo discussion of certain gay men who objectify other men and change sex partners as frequently as their 2(x)ist underwear. Then there are those who have one eye on tonight's hookup while eagerly scanning the room for tomorrow night's prospect, and those who, with a nimble swipe of a thumb, carelessly peruses and skillfully rejects prospects on Grindr, Tinder and other social media apps, based on trivialities like ill-defined abs
These articles are all written by gay men, explaining exactly where they are coming from and what type of behavior is common.
There is no conspiracy here and I've actively told you I have no problems with any of this. I've always supported gay rights and support gay marriage. Me saying gay men have more sex than other groups of people isn't condemning them, its simply making an observation,
WHICH IS TRUE.
Go out and talk to gay men about it! Do you put any sort of thought or effort into any single subject we argue about?
Christ, GROW UP. You have NO IDEA what you are talking about and that's painfully obvious. NO CLUE.
Last edited by wil318466; 02-20-2017 at 08:32 PM.
