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Does Whining About Political Correctness in a Racism Debate Correlate to Being a Racist? Does Whining About Political Correctness in a Racism Debate Correlate to Being a Racist?

10-08-2014 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
LOL guys not to ruin your gambit entirely here, but Brian, if your new scheme is to claim that I'm some sort of attention seeking "troll" who doesn't believe the **** I say, you may want to consider making some posts about ANY OTHER SUBJECT.
What "gambit"?!? What "you guys"?!? I'm not on anyone's team. I happen to find Alex's attempts to "out" you to be absolutely ridiculous. It is all stuff that you are more than happy to admit about yourself + my take on whether you are effective.

If I said anything that implied that you don't actually hate racism, I apologize for my lack of clarity. You just enjoy the idea that you might upset people you don't like. That is a completely different sort of troll.

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Having a conversation about me with another person that I'm not even involved in about the importance of ignoring me doesn't really sell the line as much as you might think.
?!? If you aren't involved with him it is absolutely clear that he should be ignoring you.

Edit: asked my brother, and calling someone a cock sucker is definitely homophobic.

Last edited by BrianTheMick2; 10-08-2014 at 09:44 PM.
10-08-2014 , 11:22 PM
Brian, as per always, I literally do not care. If you don't care enough to read for comprehension, understand context, and formulate coherent responses, I don't care about your worthless opinion.

I was merely discussing the tactics here. This line you're taking about how "everybody knows" that I'm some sort of clown, the related line where you were all "WAT?" at the suggestion people care what I write...

You probably should discuss that rhetoric with whichever one of your personalities is in charge of posting constantly about me ITT ever since BruceZ. Because son, it seems u mad.
10-08-2014 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Brian, as per always, I literally do not care. If you don't care enough to read for comprehension, understand context, and formulate coherent responses, I don't care about your worthless opinion.
Strange that you LITERALLY decided to write that, given that you LITERALLY do not care.

I never write anything about anything that I literally do not care about. Not once. Not ever.

Are you trying to imply that you don't care about racism, sexism, etc.?!? I believe that not at all.

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I was merely discussing the tactics here. This line you're taking about how "everybody knows" that I'm some sort of clown, the related line where you were all "WAT?" at the suggestion people care what I write...
What tactics?!? You are direct and easy to understand.

That spank and Alex pretend that you are some sort of enigma is embarrassing.

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You probably should discuss that rhetoric with whichever one of your personalities is in charge of posting constantly about me ITT ever since BruceZ. Because son, it seems u mad.
Mad? Not at all.

I am pretty sure that you and I are in complete agreement on important things. I just don't think that you are at all helpful. I would rather you be helpful in carrying the ball forward.
10-09-2014 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
Strange that you LITERALLY decided to write that, given that you LITERALLY do not care.
#dudeliterally
10-09-2014 , 11:02 AM
I was out in the country last week and our friends have like 50 chickens, there's plenty of other ones for y'all to ****.

Why does #TeamBruce act like the ball isn't in his court (or I guess living room, since he took it and went home). I've been demodded by force and by choice, and at no point did it prevent me from continuing to annoy people with my posting. A grown ass man and presumed intellectual lost his mod status on a message board, threw a fit and left and the debate is still if he was wronged?
10-09-2014 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dids
I've been demodded by force and by choice, and at no point did it prevent me from continuing to annoy people with my posting. A grown ass man and presumed intellectual lost his mod status on a message board, threw a fit and left and the debate is still if he was wronged?
lets not compare you to Bruce but we might get to deal with the point one day.

Doesn't work though unless we start acknowledging what they have done So far Wookie is hiding behind interpreters. I'm not sure well named wasn't being far too generous towards wookie but so far he wont even take that way out - maybe he realises that if he does it undermines his already weakly founded personal attack on Bruce.

Last edited by chezlaw; 10-09-2014 at 11:27 AM.
10-09-2014 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I'm not sure well named wasn't being far too generous towards wookie but so far he wont even take that way out - maybe he realises that if he does it undermines his already weakly founded personal attack on Bruce.
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Originally Posted by well named
It is within the rules of the forum to say that the posts are "racist" (I understand there is disagreement about the politics of words; I disagree that calling posts racist is a personal attack;
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10-09-2014 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
lets not compare you to Bruce but we might get to deal with the point one day.

Doesn't work though unless we start acknowledging what they have done So far Wookie is hiding behind interpreters. I'm not sure well named wasn't being far too generous towards wookie but so far he wont even take that way out - maybe he realises that if he does it undermines his already weakly founded personal attack on Bruce.
The ironing
10-09-2014 , 12:26 PM
Well named has interpreted my posts perfectly. I felt no need to elaborate. For a bunch of experts on science, math, and philosophy, I would have thought they might be savvy to more than one definition of "apology," esp. given its prominence in historical philosophical discourse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apology_%28Plato%29
10-09-2014 , 12:27 PM
Gonna be like this for months and months and months. Maybe we'll even get a full year of whining from #TeamBruce.
10-09-2014 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
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So is that your current strategy, to deny all of the personal attacks, all of the times Bruce and anyone who defended him were called a racist? Unbelievable. I'm willing to deal with the ever-changing usages of the word to suit whichever point you're trying to evade, but you should at least be aware of what many of you are doing when you misuse and abuse political correctness.

Don't misunderstand. PC has it's use. We should always be careful how we offend others, and generally strive not to. But here's a bleak picture of the damage that can come from PC run amok. http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerscr...l-correctness/.
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Why Did British Police Ignore Pakistani Gangs Abusing 1,400 Rotherham Children? Political Correctness
If this is true, it's ugly.

Many are gleefully unaware they have been trapped by DiB in the badposter thread in the exact same type of abuse of political correctness they do routinely without thinking. It's dumbfounding to the point of amusement so many here are so oblivious. They just keep on having their cake, eating it, then smearing their excess bile all over others, and it has a corrosive effect.
10-09-2014 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
So is that your current strategy, to deny all of the personal attacks, all of the times Bruce and anyone who defended him were called a racist? Unbelievable. I'm willing to deal with the ever-changing usages of the word to suit whichever point you're trying to evade, but you should at least be aware of what many of you are doing when you misuse and abuse political correctness.
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Originally Posted by well named
I don't even know what fault really means in this context. As far as I'm concerned no other moderator nor any member of the administration of the site did anything that should require an apology. To be perfectly clear I mean:

- Quoting posts and saying that they will get you banned in politics
- Suggesting that the posts are racist and make Bruce seem racist
- Arguing about why the posts are racist and/or why they make Bruce seem racist
- Suggesting that he should be de-modded

On the other hand, neither do I consider it a requirement that Bruce apologize for his posts as a matter of "fault". I do think he's at fault for the way he reacted to the situation, but only insofar as he was a moderator and it was inappropriate to launch into the politics forum and make the post he did suggesting mod action, and also the thread in ATF about pvn.

Beyond that, I'm not really concerned about fault. Saying he should surrender is mostly pragmatic: lots of people think the specific posts he made are offensive. I think they are right and I don't think it's particularly close. In any case, he is not entitled to have any of us change our minds, and it's very unlikely that many people will do so. We are allowed to say that the posts are offense in any forum we like.


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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Don't misunderstand. PC has it's use. We should always be careful how we offend others, and generally strive not to. But here's a bleak picture of the damage that can come from PC run amok.

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Why Did British Police Ignore Pakistani Gangs Abusing 1,400 Rotherham Children? Political Correctness
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerscr...l-correctness/. If this is true, it's ugly.
Lol. Yet another example of brilliant logic and honest intellectual debating skills.
10-09-2014 , 01:01 PM
Another day BruceZ is in the discussion, another day of cementing BruceZ is a racist as his twoplustwo brand.
10-09-2014 , 01:01 PM
Nice leaps in logic you have there FoldN.
10-09-2014 , 01:08 PM
I think PU should be closed, but an all BruceZ forum should be opened in its place.
10-09-2014 , 01:08 PM
So just rename PU?
10-09-2014 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Lol. Yet another example of brilliant logic and honest intellectual debating skills.
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Nice leaps in logic you have there FoldN.
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Collective, not personal pronoun there, and once again, no one accused him of being in favor of slavery. The manner in which he was defending the founding fathers is precisely why everyone got riled up by those posts.
Keep up with your own story guys. It wasn't that he actually is in favor of slavery, it's the manner in how he defended the founding fathers. He's not PC enough for you, so he's racist. In fact, as anyone can learn from reading this forum about ten minutes, latest being DiBs performance, cross that PC line and all critical thinking can be discarded, your argument is toast and so are you.
10-09-2014 , 01:17 PM
No, it's not about him "not being PC enough." It's about being racist. He literally cast those put into slavery on a lower tier than you and me, even if he wasn't "in favor of slavery."
10-09-2014 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
So just rename PU?
And make cheeselawl a mod.
10-09-2014 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly
Gonna be like this for months and months and months. Maybe we'll even get a full year of whining from #TeamBruce.
Well if that's the case, we're going to need a gif-meme...

10-09-2014 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
I am pretty sure that you and I are in complete agreement on important things. I just don't think that you are at all helpful. I would rather you be helpful in carrying the ball forward.
That's pretty much my position concerning Fly as well. Politically, we're pretty close (I think...). But I think the way he approaches things makes things worse rather than better, and that makes me his enemy in his eyes.

But my real point in responding to you is to ask you why YOU are engaging with him given what you've said.
10-09-2014 , 01:32 PM
Slavery wasn't so bad for the slave because he got fed 3x a day, given food and shelter.

It's okay for blacks to be slaves because they didn't know better, but for white folks like you and me, it wouldn't work so well.

Being that there are no financial incentives in day to day slave life, a slave owner needs to periodically whip and beat the slave, or else, he's going to sit on his ass in the cotton fields and produce lower results.

That slave that lived with George Washington, he won the ****ing lottery.

Back in Africa, where the people there are just jungle savages, the whites in America had a lot to do with pushing these savages forward, taking them from their swamps and holes, and giving them social welfare for life.

What black slave would ever logically turn down such a deal? Compared to all the slaves we have today working 9-5, I repeat, some of these slaves won the lottery.
10-09-2014 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Slavery wasn't so bad for the slave because he got fed 3x a day, given food and shelter.

It's okay for blacks to be slaves because they didn't know better, but for white folks like you and me, it wouldn't work so well.
Not to mention that after a few generations of slavery, their progeny would be oppressed Americans. Don't you see that's a huge win for the Africans?
10-09-2014 , 01:35 PM
Mr wookie is bigoted against philosophers. A partisan scoffer and a rank amateur judge of people and ideas. Not even amateur, childish like a 5 year old who is always right. Judges people for discussing slavery, but no clear sign he even understands basic slave mentality. No curiosity or acceptance of why other people may be curious to discuss or understand all sides of a situation.

He can assert the same kind of scoffing, partisan opinion repetitively and he uses that as a weak basis to judge people and posts as racist.

He is not the only one.
10-09-2014 , 01:36 PM
I heard George Washington could rape 30 of his slaves at the same time.

      
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