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09-20-2014 , 02:08 PM

#126

FlyWf

It's the other way

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Quote:

“This goes way beyond mocking. Poking fun is one thing, but that’s not what happened,” said Kelli O’Dell, 56, a former teacher who lives in Alexandria and doesn’t watch the show regularly. “It was disingenuous. The Native Americans accused me of things that were so wrong. I felt in danger. I didn’t consent to that. I am going to be defamed.”

Dear lady: YOU DID THOSE THINGS, THOUGH. NO **** PEOPLE ACCUSED YOU OF THEM

09-20-2014 , 02:12 PM

#127

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly

Is this really a thing in real life now? This conflating racism accusations with physical harm thing that AlexM and spanky do on the internet, has this expanded out into real life? Oh well, good thing Dupont Circle doesn't have stand your ground laws or things might get all Wounded Knee.

Racial slurs should be fine to say if speech causes no harm, by your 'logic'.

Maybe you should educate yourself better before speaking on serious matters of the human condition.

Know-it-all opinions about racism have done enough social harm around the forums, but you assimilate with the dominant/aggressive group- so why should you care?

09-20-2014 , 02:47 PM

#128

rjoefish

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'physical harm' brah

09-20-2014 , 02:57 PM

#129

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by rjoefish

'physical harm' brah

Talking and writing are physical acts. People become traumatized by just witnessing violence, not even physically harmed. The distinction you imply is not a wall formed of stone. It is not even a wall, at all.

09-20-2014 , 02:59 PM

#130

rjoefish

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Yeah, it is. You generally don't call the cops cause someone said something mean to you. Well, normal people don't, you might.

09-20-2014 , 03:01 PM

#131

Anais

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Words cannot be racist because they are mere particles bouncing off each other at an increased vibrational rate

To call a word racist is to assume that molecules have intention, which is faulty

Profess your molecules in a happy manner and life will give you fortune cookies

/spank

09-20-2014 , 03:35 PM

#132

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

I guess if we're are going to use youtube for education...

I was going to post that somewhere else recently but I bottled it.

The man is a hero.

09-20-2014 , 04:05 PM

#133

FlyWf

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chezlaw that man disagrees with literally every opinion you hold dear

09-20-2014 , 04:17 PM

#134

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by rjoefish

Yeah, it is. You generally don't call the cops cause someone said something mean to you. Well, normal people don't, you might.

It is actually against the law in some places to simply raise your voice at a person. Children are particularly vulnerable to harsh tone and words. Being mean has consequences, even if they are not official.

09-20-2014 , 04:23 PM

#135

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

chezlaw that man disagrees with literally every opinion you hold dear

No he doesn't. The man is one of my heroes

09-20-2014 , 04:24 PM

#136

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by Anais

Nice poetic admission to frequent mischaracterizations of position. It's reference material!

09-20-2014 , 04:31 PM

#137

FlyWf

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

No he doesn't. The man is one of my heroes

Uh, you know that he's sincere, right? Stewart Lee isn't having us on by pretending to be a social justice warrior stereotype, dude legitimately cares about that ****.

09-20-2014 , 04:36 PM

#138

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Uh, you know that he's sincere, right? Stewart Lee isn't having us on by pretending to be a social justice warrior stereotype, dude legitimately cares about that ****.

I know exactly where his coming from. ty

I've been pushing his stuff on people for years.

and please don't make this thread about me.

09-20-2014 , 04:45 PM

#139

AlexM

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Is the Flyrony in Fly's use of the term "social justice warrior" intentional or no?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...ustice+warrior

social justice warrior

A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation. A social justice warrior, or SJW, does not necessarily strongly believe all that they say, or even care about the groups they are fighting on behalf of. They typically repeat points from whoever is the most popular blogger or commenter of the moment, hoping that they will "get SJ points" and become popular in return. They are very sure to adopt stances that are "correct" in their social circle.

The SJW's favorite activity of all is to dogpile. Their favorite websites to frequent are Livejournal and Tumblr. They do not have relevant favorite real-world places, because SJWs are primarily civil rights activists only online.

09-20-2014 , 05:16 PM

#140

swissmiss

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

e. So someone like swissmiss gets to play that the first time. When she goes to BAT for a whole month defending Bruce(et al.), when Alex spends half a decade defending Jim Crow...

No. **** them. They used that card up a while ago. They are aware their conduct is unacceptable and continue anyway. At that point I don't care why.

I do not think my conduct is unacceptable. I know I use the "using questions to make a point format" way to often because it does not work as much as I intend it to do. It is the reason I do not think your approach is edit: not unacceptable per se. But ok, just stop to care why. Easy solutions are easy after all.

09-20-2014 , 05:17 PM

#141

FlyWf

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Shut the **** up

09-20-2014 , 05:51 PM

#142

swissmiss

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Shut the **** up

Would be an easy solution wouldn't it?

09-20-2014 , 06:38 PM

#143

The REAL Trolly

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Swiss, tell us more about why you think Israel should be wiped off the map.

09-20-2014 , 06:42 PM

#144

swissmiss

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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly

Swiss, tell us more about why you think Israel should be wiped off the map.

I am not sure on what level your answer is. If I am right about you, this should make sense:

Because I used an easy solution to make you shut up. Easy solutions are easy after all.

If not: I never actually said that.

09-20-2014 , 06:44 PM

#145

goofyballer

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Originally Posted by David Sklansky

By the way the word "Oriental" should never have been replaced with "Asian" (something else maybe). Because it is not the same thing. It allows for inaccuracies because Oriental is merely a subset of Asian. For the opposite reason I dislike "African American". Because it is not the same thing as "black". Yet it is sometimes used as a synonym when it shouldn't be. (In the OJ trial a witness testified that he saw an African American walking across the lawn. I jumped out of my seat. But no one else seemed to notice.)

So you're obsessed with the definition of words even though it's apparently only the super-intelligent that have difficulty knowing what they mean?

Like, nobody on the planet (except DS) is worrying about the possibility that someone is going to refer to an Egyptian as "African American", or that someone is going to refer to an Arab as Asian.

09-20-2014 , 06:49 PM

#146

goofyballer

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Not really directly on point but too great for a LC thread, http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...wpmk=MK0000203

Some dip**** white lady called the cops on the Daily Show for exposing her to getting called racist.

But it's time to go farther than the title. It doesn't merely correlate with being a racist, IT IS racist. Whining about political correctness invariably works itself out as trivializing or denying institutional white supremacy.

LOL, my favorite part:

Quote:

Hawkins said he wouldn’t have worn his Redskins jacket — at the producers’ insistence — if he had been expecting to square off with Native Americans, especially one of the leading activists against the team name.

If you don't want to wear your team jacket in front of members of the group it refers to derogatorily, MAYBE that should tell you something????

09-20-2014 , 07:16 PM

#147

BrianTheMick2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

I was going to post that somewhere else recently but I bottled it.

The man is a hero.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

chezlaw that man disagrees with literally every opinion you hold dear

Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

No he doesn't. The man is one of my heroes

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Uh, you know that he's sincere, right? Stewart Lee isn't having us on by pretending to be a social justice warrior stereotype, dude legitimately cares about that ****.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

I know exactly where his coming from. ty

I've been pushing his stuff on people for years.

and please don't make this thread about me.

This has to go down as one of the best exchanges I have ever seen on the internet.

I decline your request, chez. Keep up the good fight. Maybe we will win someday. We've made excellent progress so far, and I remain cautiously optimistic.