I am saying you are on purposely being obtuse and obnoxious to annoy people by badgering them with questions instead of accepting their answers or you aren't very smart to begin with.

Or you want to educate people.

Both are true. But I cannot accept an answer that isn't one.

I stick to my point but it has less to do with my thinking some black people's plight is not as bad as you think but rather much more with my opinion that many geeky types live lives of more desperation than people realize.

Don't forget that the swap was from nerd to average black guy. Average. I think that more than half of black males are happier than the particular type of white guy I feel sorry for.

I'm done responding to you after this because you've asked the same question 5 times now and even though I've tried to explain you can't understand, for whatever reason.

I thought he was joking about one specific part (blacks having more sex) but was serious that geeks and/or aspies have it worse.

If you still need proof he was serious about that part read his post just above mine here.

Problem being that it seems like you underestimate how many black geeks or nerds there are. Because they do exist. I was close friends with a black nerd in high school.

Surely this negatively impacts the average score for black guy life enjoyment.

By the way the word "Oriental" should never have been replaced with "Asian" (something else maybe). Because it is not the same thing. It allows for inaccuracies because Oriental is merely a subset of Asian. For the opposite reason I dislike "African American". Because it is not the same thing as "black". Yet it is sometimes used as a synonym when it shouldn't be. (In the OJ trial a witness testified that he saw an African American walking across the lawn. I jumped out of my seat. But no one else seemed to notice.)

I am talking about a small percentage of the population of both races. Why bother to bring it up this point? Because the white nerd might get unlucky and switches to the black nerd? My post didn't assume there are no black nerds. I'm sure you get more sex than Neil Degrasse Tyson.

Not sure why you say you dislike it for the opposite reason when African American is a subset of black.

This statement suggests you are using average to mean "median" rather than mean" (a valid use of the term). Originally, you referred to swapping places with a "randomly chosen black guy". Since you are obviously someone who understands how the mean and the median can be different, I can chalk that up to imprecise language. Additionally, the white nerd may choose a satisficing rather than optimizing strategy, if given an opportunity to swap (unless the particular type of white guy you feel sorry for would automatically go for the most optimal strategy). If the worst-off blacks are worse off than the worst-off nerds, a white nerd may not want to swap even if he does better on average.

Obviously, white Americans are, on average, much better off than black Americans.

But averages don't tell the whole story. The suicide rate among white men is more than double the rate among black men. Perhaps this is related to what David is talking about. Or maybe it's something else entirely. Regardless, it's pretty apparent that some white people are much less happy than the average black person.

I'd rather have a suicide rate twice as high than a homicide rate eight times as high.

That's the kind of response I would have expected from Bruce Z.

Like I said, white people are, on average, way better off. But surely you can see that many who are on the point of suicide would happily trade lives with a random person.

That is not necessarily true at all. Both mathematically speaking and psychologically speaking.

Edit: And it is the kind of response one could have expected from you.

The truth is that white people are crazy. Just about all the mass killers are white. The honkies are the scourge of the earth.



No offense to white people.

Not really. I don't nitpick medians and means especially if I know the poster is just trying to keep things simple.

I was nitpicking average vs random more than I was nitpicking median vs mean.

The distinction between the inner qualities of a person and superficial ones is in the eye of the beholder it seems.

So I am glad, I wasn't talking about medians then.

How was it decided that Asian must replace Oriental? Was Oriental being used as a pejorative?

People who use Oriental or African-American or homosexual are generally not intending to be offensive.

It is how the term political correctness is used as a political trick. It can be used as a 'gotcha' when somebody uses outdated vernacular.

This differs from using a racial or other condition slur intending to cause social and personal pain. That is just wrong- nothing political about it.

The problem with this response is that it isn't a response. "You're wrong because math," is about as lazy an argument you can make, unless the person is literally arguing that 2+2=5.

I think the point was that, for sufficiently high risk of suicide (s) and sufficiently negligible risk of homicide (h), a rational person wouldn't exchange a doubling of (s) for an 8-fold decrease of (h).

Of course this is a purely abstract argument until one tries to put some real-world numbers in there.