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03-09-2014 , 03:28 PM
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Mania 30 (1 hour Pre-Show)
WWE Divas Champ vs NXT Divas Champ - AJ Lee vs Paige
WWE Tag Titles - (c) The Usos vs Rhodes Bros. vs NAO vs Ryback/Axel

Main Show
The Shield vs Wyatt Family - Reigns/Rollins vs Rowan/Harper

Grudge Match - Sheamus vs Christian

U.S. Title vs I.C. Title - Big E. vs Dean Ambrose

Streak Match HIAC - The Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar

Jack Swagger vs Cesaro

Authority vs WWE Universe - Triple H vs Daniel Bryan

NXT Title Match - (c) Adrian Neville vs Sami Zayn

Mask vs Hair - Rey Mysterio vs Alberto Del Rio

John Cena vs Bray Wyatt

WWE WHC - (c) Randy Orton vs Batista vs Daniel Bryan


If this is the final card for WM30 what do you guys think? How would you rate the matches individually and the overall card?
So earlier the unification match wasn't happening as quoted by you.

Rey is injured so that isn't happening.

Hmmm. Something smells fishy here.
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03-09-2014 , 03:29 PM
The manner in which people react to booblover is one of the more interesting subplots going on this board right now.
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03-09-2014 , 06:43 PM
Reading an old Wrestling Observer Newsletter (1/6/92) and found this interesting:

The reason they did the television angle where PN News had his eye run into the ringpost by Mr. Hughes was because News had returned from England with a swollen shut eye courtesy of an altercation in a bar from Rick Rude. News couldn't beat Rude with both arms against one in arm wrestling and things got out of hand. In reality, even though there are guys who look much more powerful, with the exception of Scott Norton there probably isn't anyone in pro wrestling who could put Rude's arm down.

the Ravishing One
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03-09-2014 , 07:51 PM
WWE should have gone with the original plans. A Real Americans face turn and a Cesaro/Swagger vs Del Rio/Sin Cara Deportation Tag Match. Losers get deported to Mexico forever.

Instead we will get generic Swagger/Cesaro and Ziggler/Del Rio singles matches. Ziggler vs Del Rio should go on the pre-show. I'd rather see the Vets Kane vs Big Show or even Mark Henry vs Ryback Part II happen at Mania 30.

Most people in WWE wanted to do Reigns vs Big E. with Reigns going over in a slugfest, but Vince overruled because he felt it would kill Big E. Vince would rather put BOTH Big E. and Reigns over at Mania. Reigns finally gets revenge on the Wyatt Family, and Big. E wins the unified secondary title.
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03-09-2014 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by booblover
WWE should have gone with the original plans. A Real Americans face turn and a Cesaro/Swagger vs Del Rio/Sin Cara Deportation Tag Match. Losers get deported to Mexico forever.

Instead we will get generic Swagger/Cesaro and Ziggler/Del Rio singles matches. Ziggler vs Del Rio should go on the pre-show. I'd rather see the Vets Kane vs Big Show or even Mark Henry vs Ryback Part II happen at Mania 30.

Most people in WWE wanted to do Reigns vs Big E. with Reigns going over in a slugfest, but Vince overruled because he felt it would kill Big E. Vince would rather put BOTH Big E. and Reigns over at Mania. Reigns finally gets revenge on the Wyatt Family, and Big. E wins the unified secondary title.
i'm interested to see what directions the paths of reigns, big e, cesaro and ambrose take in the next couple of months. seems like they are committed to pushing them but i don't think there's enough room for all four right now. it would actually be a pretty good time to have a second world title, or a second secondary title that actually gets utlized.
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03-09-2014 , 08:09 PM
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i'm interested to see what directions the paths of reigns, big e, cesaro and ambrose take in the next couple of months. seems like they are committed to pushing them but i don't think there's enough room for all four right now. it would actually be a pretty good time to have a second world title, or a second secondary title that actually gets utlized.
Reigns > Cesaro > > > > > > Big E. > Ambrose

That could change but right now WWE has monster plans for Reigns and Cesaro. Big. E. and Ambrose will probably have a long feud over the I.C. title, with fighters like Rollins, Ziggler, Miz, and Cody Rhodes in the mix to name a few.

The big surprise is Cesaro. From the doghouse to full McMahon support in less than 1 year. It pays to be 6'5 and jacked.
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03-09-2014 , 11:01 PM
Chris Hardwick just said that CM Punk will be on next week's Talking Dead.
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03-09-2014 , 11:04 PM
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Chris Hardwick just said that CM Punk will be on next week's Talking Dead.


sadly he probably wont say anything about his departure from the WWE unless its really subtle or implied
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03-09-2014 , 11:12 PM
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sadly he probably wont say anything about his departure from the WWE unless its really subtle or implied
Yeah -- I was thinking the same thing. I hope he at least points out some of the absurdity of the show. I really can't see him being a true fan of it.
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03-09-2014 , 11:24 PM
Random, but didn't want to start a new thread for this. Did anyone here ever call the "WWF Superstar Line" ?
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03-09-2014 , 11:40 PM
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Reading an old Wrestling Observer Newsletter (1/6/92) and found this interesting:

The reason they did the television angle where PN News had his eye run into the ringpost by Mr. Hughes was because News had returned from England with a swollen shut eye courtesy of an altercation in a bar from Rick Rude. News couldn't beat Rude with both arms against one in arm wrestling and things got out of hand.
This is a short match between Rude and News. Don't miss the song that starts at about 1:45.

http://www.tunesbaby.com/dm/?x=x6f7ah
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03-10-2014 , 03:15 PM
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Reigns > Cesaro > > > > > > Big E. > Ambrose

That could change but right now WWE has monster plans for Reigns and Cesaro. Big. E. and Ambrose will probably have a long feud over the I.C. title, with fighters like Rollins, Ziggler, Miz, and Cody Rhodes in the mix to name a few.

The big surprise is Cesaro. From the doghouse to full McMahon support in less than 1 year. It pays to be 6'5 and jacked.
Was he in the doghouse? Or is this a case where not being pushed to the moon equals being buried?

I always just assumed he was paying dues and maturing from indy star to big league star. Real Americans was huge for him and Zeb really matured his work.
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03-10-2014 , 03:16 PM
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Yeah -- I was thinking the same thing. I hope he at least points out some of the absurdity of the show. I really can't see him being a true fan of it.
Of walking dead? Punk likes it fine and is a huge WD comic fan. He has been on Talking Dead before.
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03-10-2014 , 03:19 PM
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Was he in the doghouse? Or is this a case where not being pushed to the moon equals being buried?

I always just assumed he was paying dues and maturing from indy star to big league star. Real Americans was huge for him and Zeb really matured his work.
Yeah I agree. A fair number of people seem to think that being buried and continuing to be on every single episode of Raw can go hand in hand. They really can't. If the company is still frequently making use of you on the main show, even in a ****ty side storyline, you're still in good shape. People who actually get buried end up on C-shows at best and rarely appear on Raw.
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03-10-2014 , 08:12 PM
I can remember that it was said that Vince was not sold at all on Cesaro. So maybe not in the doghouse, but he still did a terrific job of getting himself over.
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03-10-2014 , 10:23 PM
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This is a short match between Rude and News. Don't miss the song that starts at about 1:45.

http://www.tunesbaby.com/dm/?x=x6f7ah
YO BABY YO BABY YO
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03-10-2014 , 10:59 PM
Zack Ryder's contract must be coming up soon, he's back at the YouTube thing.

I'm a total mark, but I hope it works. It actually seems like he gives a **** about what he's doing and wants to make some new things happen. Of course, even if it works again, he'll promptly get buried again, so eh?

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03-10-2014 , 11:01 PM
My basic opinion of everything Zack Ryder does is as follows:

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this is sux.
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03-10-2014 , 11:03 PM
Zach Ryder may be the worst wrestler of all time ever supported by the iwc
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03-11-2014 , 12:30 AM
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Zach Ryder may be the worst wrestler of all time ever supported by the iwc
Yep. One time he actually came out wearing a pair of tights that said "Push Me".
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03-11-2014 , 02:24 AM
I love Zack Ryder WWWYKI
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03-11-2014 , 02:34 AM
30 man battle royal guess:

Alexander Rusev
Big E
BNB
Brodus
Curtis Axel
Damien Sandow
Darren Young
Drew McIntyre
Fandango
Great Khali
Heath Slater
Jinder Mahal
Justin Gabriel
Kofi Kingston
Mark Henry
Miz
R Truth
Ryback
Santino
Sin Cara
Titus
Zack Ryder

OK so that's 22. For now I'm assuming no double duty.

Other potential people who might have matches or might do this:
Big Show/Kane
ADR/Ziggler
Usos/Rhodes Bros/NAO/Los Matadores
Harper and Rowan/Shield
Christian/Sheamus

I left out people I haven't seen on TV in forever ftmp. I'd expect 1-3 surprises or so...Evan Bourne, RVD, Booker T/JBL.

idk...it's probably going to be 15 minutes of hot garbage and I just wasted my time thinking about this looking through the roster.
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03-11-2014 , 03:03 AM
Cena said he was entering it but idk if he'll pull double duty or not.
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03-11-2014 , 03:58 AM
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Zach Ryder may be the worst wrestler of all time ever supported by the iwc
Yup, he was/is awful. Thank goodness Vince and co. realized that before it was too late.
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03-11-2014 , 06:24 AM
My concern is that if WM doesn't do as well as previous years, this is how it will play out.

Reason: Lackluster card/build and WWE Network.

Vince: Daniel Bryan.
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