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07-05-2009 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NJMike37
Nope, up to $297,000 now!
Wow that is a serious BBJ. How often do players hit? That is, if I go down next weekend, how likely is it to still be unhit?
07-05-2009 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by questions
Wow that is a serious BBJ. How often do players hit? That is, if I go down next weekend, how likely is it to still be unhit?
Well, ours hasn't been hit for months, but at Borgata a few days ago, it hit twice in the same day within several hours apart! They also have the same qualifier as we do (quads or better.) It's just all in the luck of the cards. I've seen (and dealt) a lot of one-aways lately.
07-05-2009 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NJMike37
Well, ours hasn't been hit for months, but at Borgata a few days ago, it hit twice in the same day within several hours apart! They also have the same qualifier as we do (quads or better.) It's just all in the luck of the cards. I've seen (and dealt) a lot of one-aways lately.
I actually read that post in the Borgata thread, but wait - so if it hit twice in the same day, then that would mean the second BBJ would have been ... how much? Significantly less than the first, I am sure, but does anyone know what the actual numbers were? Because I didn't see it in the Borgata thread.
07-05-2009 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by questions
I actually read that post in the Borgata thread, but wait - so if it hit twice in the same day, then that would mean the second BBJ would have been ... how much? Significantly less than the first, I am sure, but does anyone know what the actual numbers were? Because I didn't see it in the Borgata thread.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27.../#post11666567
07-05-2009 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by questions
I actually read that post in the Borgata thread, but wait - so if it hit twice in the same day, then that would mean the second BBJ would have been ... how much? Significantly less than the first, I am sure, but does anyone know what the actual numbers were? Because I didn't see it in the Borgata thread.
I can't say for sure, but I think they do a 75/25 split for every BBJ dollar. By that I mean, 75% goes towards the current jackpot, 25% goes towards future jackpots. So if it is hit at $240,000, the next jackpot starts at $60,000, and then $20,000 is put towards future jackpots. So if it is hit twice in the same day it would go from $240,000 to $60,000 to $15,000, and if it was hit a 3rd time it would go from $15,000 to $3,750...

edit: Based on the numbers from that link, it might be more like 66.66/33.33. Also they collect BBJ money and add it to the jackpot several times a day, which is why the 2nd jackpot isn't exactly 1/3 or 1/4 of the one hit earlier that day...

Last edited by atrainpsu; 07-05-2009 at 03:40 PM.
07-05-2009 , 05:21 PM
its 80/20 here
07-05-2009 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by atrainpsu

edit: Based on the numbers from that link, it might be more like 66.66/33.33. Also they collect BBJ money and add it to the jackpot several times a day, which is why the 2nd jackpot isn't exactly 1/3 or 1/4 of the one hit earlier that day...
It's 80/20 at Showboat. Money collected isn't added to the jackpot throughout the day, only at the "end" of the day which is ~6 am. Can't say for sure at the Borgata but I assume it's the same.

Edit: Also, if the BBJ were to hit twice in one day at Showboat I'm pretty sure the current jackpot would be zero unless the casino decided to seed it. We had it hit twice in two days before and I believe the jackpot was down to ~$500.
07-05-2009 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by StackerBA
It's 80/20 at Showboat.....

Edit: Also, if the BBJ were to hit twice in one day at Showboat I'm pretty sure the current jackpot would be zero unless the casino decided to seed it.
Obviously things may have changed since they first implemented the BBJ, but I think this is incorrect. I think it's 75/25, where the 25% goes towards future jackpots.

So if you have a 240K jackpot, then there is 80K (25% of total BBJ $$) in reserve. Of the 80K, you put 60K (75%) towards the next jackpot and 20K (25%) in reserve.

Now, again, maybe they changed things, but they would be running the risk of bankrupting the BBJ (and probably ruining the pokeroom) if they don't do it this way...
07-05-2009 , 06:11 PM
80/20 - doesn't that mean that when the current JP hits 300K there will be 75K behind for the next one?

meaning every dollar goes .80 in the current JP & .20 in the next one?
07-05-2009 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wpr
80/20 - doesn't that mean that when the current JP hits 300K there will be 75K behind for the next one?

meaning every dollar goes .80 in the current JP & .20 in the next one?
This is where there is confusion. You can't put the whole reserve into the next jackpot, you can have to leave a percentage for the new reserve.
07-05-2009 , 07:01 PM
That's not what was done in the past.
07-05-2009 , 07:08 PM
i went to showboat last week.i sold mypc so im paying 2 bucks n hour now to be online neway the tournament was great even tho i lost..there was almost a fight at my table when a dealer messed up twice in like 3 hands..i wound up losin in 1/2 nl so on the bus ride home i decided i will start playing limit hold em on my next trip 2/4 or 3/6
i never played limit so im trying to figure out the betting structure can some1 explain it to me i have like30 min left on here..from my knowledge 2/4 u can bet 8 bucks on the turn and river with a maximum of 4 bets per betting round so whats the highest bet u canmake from flop to river? thanks!
07-05-2009 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GambIer
i went to showboat last week.i sold mypc so im paying 2 bucks n hour now to be online neway the tournament was great even tho i lost..there was almost a fight at my table when a dealer messed up twice in like 3 hands..i wound up losin in 1/2 nl so on the bus ride home i decided i will start playing limit hold em on my next trip 2/4 or 3/6
i never played limit so im trying to figure out the betting structure can some1 explain it to me i have like30 min left on here..from my knowledge 2/4 u can bet 8 bucks on the turn and river with a maximum of 4 bets per betting round so whats the highest bet u canmake from flop to river? thanks!
That isn't quite correct. 2-4 refers to the small bet/big bet amounts. 2 refers to the increments of the wagers preflop and on the flop (blinds are 1-2), and 4 refers to the increments of wagers postflop. There are 5 bets at Showboat, 4 raises. We are the only house in AC that allows 4 raises, for a cap of $20 on turn and river unless the betting round started headsup. Hope this helps.
07-05-2009 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DealerJoel
That isn't quite correct. 2-4 refers to the small bet/big bet amounts. 2 refers to the increments of the wagers preflop and on the flop (blinds are 1-2), and 4 refers to the increments of wagers postflop. There are 5 bets at Showboat, 4 raises. We are the only house in AC that allows 4 raises, for a cap of $20 on turn and river unless the betting round started headsup. Hope this helps.
thanks yea it helped somewhat sowhat r the blinds for 3/6?
and say if i wanna bet on the turn whats min bet?
07-05-2009 , 07:24 PM
also dealer whats min buyin and max(i dont believe theres a max) for 2-4 and 3-6

thanks so much!
07-05-2009 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DealerJoel
That isn't quite correct. 2-4 refers to the small bet/big bet amounts. 2 refers to the increments of the wagers preflop and on the flop (blinds are 1-2), and 4 refers to the increments of wagers postflop. There are 5 bets at Showboat, 4 raises. We are the only house in AC that allows 4 raises, for a cap of $20 on turn and river unless the betting round started headsup. Hope this helps.
I have played lots of LHE at the Showboat the past couple years, and I never knew five-betting was allowed other than heads-up.
07-05-2009 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by atrainpsu
This is where there is confusion. You can't put the whole reserve into the next jackpot, you can have to leave a percentage for the new reserve.
so are they building three jackpots at a time? or no, gotta leave a little for the next on and so on, to infinity??

hard to figure, but i have no idea...
07-05-2009 , 11:45 PM
I am not 100% sure of this, but what I think I remember them saying about re-seeding the BBJ goes as follows:

It is 80/20 as others have said, so let's say for example the BBJ is $300,000.

The BBJ hits at $300,000, now there is $60,000 remaining for the next BBJ in which only 80% of that is going to be able to be won right away, holding back 20%. So I believe if the BBJ were to be hit at $300,000, the new BBJ would be 80% of $60,000, or $48,000, with $12,000 in reserve for the second backup. I could be wrong about this, but I will confirm..

Honestly, I am usually never there when the BBJ hits, and for some reason seems to hit when I have days off, so I am not there for the new BBJ amount to be posted.
07-05-2009 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GambIer
thanks yea it helped somewhat sowhat r the blinds for 3/6?
and say if i wanna bet on the turn whats min bet?
Gambler, in 3/6, the small blind is 1 and the big blind is 3. Pre-flop and on the flop, the betting increments are 3 dollars. You must start at 3 dollars, a raise would be 6, reraise to 9, etc.. up to 15 dollars. Then on the turn and river, betting increments are at 6 dollars. There is no min/max bet if you have the 6 dollars in front of you to cover the bet as you cannot bet anything other than 6. You must start the betting at 6 dollars, raise to 12, reraise to 18, etc.. up to 30 dollars. If you ever have any question as to what the bet amount is on the game, you can just say "Bet" or "Raise" and the dealer will state the amount that the bet needs to be.

A side note, just like in 2/4, if you are heads-up, the raising is unlimited.
07-06-2009 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NJMike37
I am not 100% sure of this, but what I think I remember them saying about re-seeding the BBJ goes as follows:

It is 80/20 as others have said, so let's say for example the BBJ is $300,000.

The BBJ hits at $300,000, now there is $60,000 remaining for the next BBJ in which only 80% of that is going to be able to be won right away, holding back 20%. So I believe if the BBJ were to be hit at $300,000, the new BBJ would be 80% of $60,000, or $48,000, with $12,000 in reserve for the second backup. I could be wrong about this, but I will confirm..

Honestly, I am usually never there when the BBJ hits, and for some reason seems to hit when I have days off, so I am not there for the new BBJ amount to be posted.
If that's how it is, it's been changed. I remember last summer the BBJ was hit around 200k and hit again a couple days later. It was down to like 2k or so which would be impossible if the above is the way it works now.
07-06-2009 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by StackerBA
If that's how it is, it's been changed. I remember last summer the BBJ was hit around 200k and hit again a couple days later. It was down to like 2k or so which would be impossible if the above is the way it works now.
Nope, it hasn't been changed. I just verified with Dave Urie that you were correct about the way it is re-seeded. If it hits 2 times in one day, it is possible for the BBJ to be zero until 6AM the next day when the next collection takes place.

Speaking of the BBJ, it is now $301,000!!
07-06-2009 , 03:45 PM
I decided I'm going to deal the BBJ tomorrow at around 5:39 pm, or the first hand after that time. Just a heads up.
07-06-2009 , 04:51 PM
Played some 2/5 last night, was completely card dead until xrod dealt me AA KK KK consecutively and I hit sets with the kings both times. =)
07-06-2009 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by StackerBA
I decided I'm going to deal the BBJ tomorrow at around 5:39 pm, or the first hand after that time. Just a heads up.
I'll be there!! What table will you be dealing at this time??

Arriving morning or early afternoon, staying through thursday (first time I'll ever have stayed overnight). May finally get to see NJMike on the late shift.

Last edited by Wubbie075; 07-06-2009 at 06:06 PM. Reason: unless I'm spending my jackpot money on a room full of hookers
07-06-2009 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ship_it_trebek
Played some 2/5 last night, was completely card dead until xrod dealt me AA KK KK consecutively and I hit sets with the kings both times. =)
Can I have some of that action?

      
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