A bit nitpicky IMO.

That's a tough spot. I assume he actually verbalized 80 and then mucked his cards.

1. Guy is drunk so he might not be clear on what he's doing.

2. Did the dealer actually announce 80 or was there not enough time? Player said 80 and instamucked I don't know if I'de personally call the floor on a drunk reg i liked unless it was a huge pot with a huge bet where you shouldn't be screwing around.

Technically it should be pretty clear your in the right but how nice are with this guy?

If it was some rando it's a snap floor call but if it's a reg you joke with I would shy away from it unless you think he was angling you.

blah that's just a dumb spot i don't really blame you on one hand but I if I had to make a decision i'd go with lattimers assessment. that dude is annoying. he's always asking for phone chargers. Like bro, you own a pawnship and should have some of that WPT money left. buy one yourself.

Do i get along with him, yes. Was he too drunk to realize what he was doing, no. I don't know if he was trying to gauge my reaction or not. I think that the dealer was repeating "$80" as he was mucking.
Basically he was doing quite a few things that were out of line and it was getting out of hand. Two floor men agreed that he owed me the $80. He was obviously salty for about 30 minutes after but things were cool when I left.

He was like that when we played in the tourney last Thursday and had his chips all over the place

Too nitpicky? Absolutely not IMO. Letting that slide opens the door to a whole new world of angleshots.

Considering who this was, I doubt it was an angleshot. It was likely a mistake. Why was the mistake made? Not because he's a new player and was confused by the rules or any other "valid" reason, but because he was too piss drunk to be at the table without being a disruption.

"Don't Tap The Glass" would be the litmus test I would use in this situation. Enforcing that raise is important to deter future angleshooting and I don't think it would cause this particular regfish to swim away (He will likely butterfly around the poker room a bit but he does that anyways) so you were absolutely correct in calling the floor IMO.

Assuming he said $80 before he mucked, and assuming anyone else heard him say it (to back you up), you were neither extreme nor nitpicky. The guy is experienced enough to know what he's doing, and if he plays drunk, that's his problem.
If you wanted to let him off the hook for metagame reasons, that would have been ok, and up to you. (But I probably wouldn't have done so, knowing the player in question. He's not that much better when he's sober.)

My decision to call the floor or not would be based on my reasonable judgement on what my opponent's intent was.

- If I thought he was trying to angle obv snap call floor

-If I didn't think he was trying to angle I wouldn't call the floor even if I knew I was within the right to take the $80

I'm guessing this is somewhere in between? How long after he declared 80 did he muck his hand? Was he observing you after the declare? These are the types of questions i'd ask myself before calling the floor

Out of curiosity- what was the case he argued when the floor came over?

Yes, it was somewhere in between. It was definitely not said in a joking way and he really had no defense. Everyone at the table heard him as he was in the 2 seat and I was in the 8 seat. When asked, he questioned why he couldnt say $80. The main reason that I called the floor was due to the mass amount of out of line things that he was doing, showing the 3 seat his cards, every hand, whispering to the 3 seat, while the 3 seat was in a hand, plus the above mentioned irritants. I knew that he would get a warning in the very least. I accepted the $80 because of how belligerent he became about why proclaiming a raise was not wrong due to the fact that he mucked his hand after.
Anyway, it worked out, about an hour later, after sobering up, he said, "hey give me $10 back and all is forgiven and we are friends again" I threw him 2 red chips across the table, mainly to just end things, and he threw them right back and said "thanks"

Haha I've only played with him a times and he seemed like a nice enough guy, must have been the alcohol

I think you made the right play calling the floor. I'd just say "sorry I gotta call the floor on this one to prevent potential angles"

I like it.

The main thing here is you should have never had to call the floor as the dealer should have handled it properly to begin with.

This one really pissed me off yesterday. Since I have no clue what was said to the 3 seat and the 3 seat somehow found a fold there with a very strong hand costing me $250. God forbid I mentioned the "one person to a hand" rule(I shouldn't have to mention it, do it yourselves DEALERS!!! I shouldn't look like the bad guy). What an uproar that caused, leading to players getting berated who weren't even part of the hand. This guy should know better to STFU when in a hand and not to talk to someone in a hand. Tournies are good at penalizing players but its so hard to nail someone in a cash game. In all my years of playing, I've never seen someone kicked out or penalized in any way for conduct detrimental to the integrity of a cash game.

It was an interesting night on that table.

you're wrong and a half on that one body. Anything that has the potential to have an argument is what the floors are for. A dealers job is to put the cards in front of the player and keep the game moving - the second the game stops moving (because of something like this) is when the floors intervene.

^ yea, but he's saying that this situation should fall under the "keep it moving" category for the dealer.

Dealer should have announced $80, as soon as he said it. Mucked his cards as soon as he threw them, and then asked for the $80. When he said no, then he should have called the floor. The floor then comes over and has the player put the $80 in or have a nice day.

As the floor he's putting in the $80 all day long. The players shouldn't even have had to say anything about the situation.

I agree - dealer should have made him put in 80

See more of this now at limit holdem, omaha8 and stud too.
example
Omaha8 players NOT in hand calling board cards and saying what players IN hand must have and looking at players hands before laying down and saying things like 'you have a low. one big reg does this all the time, dealers say nothing. I now have a small list of dealers I will not tip anymore if they have cost me a pot or are letting things go just to keep dealing hands just to get more tips now that they keep their own.
Anyone else think this got worse since keeping tips started?
Foxwoods dealers please respond if your allowed to too
rant over... for now

Unfortunately, I agree. While dealers have been more jovial and faster, some dealers have been letting waaaaaaaay too many things slide, which I assume, is to protect their tips.

At least we now see this or that dealer just once or so with the new rotation. Used to be if you had a not so good dealer you saw them every 3-4 shift.
Even tried to talk to some very good dealers about this off table or when met one at MS and understandably would not comment.
Odd dealer mistakes will not stop me from tipping but Lately getting to much out of hand. even verbal deceleration not binding like in a HU hand 'check blind' then betting after other player checks. dealer lets this go.
enjoy your posts jpsychlady
rant over... for today

Not allowed to, not in this thread. There's a dealer low-content thread in the main forum though that dealers have been ranting and telling stories in. They're welcome to do so there.

This is correct, and I actually didn't know about this rule till a few weeks ago.

No the dealer's job would have been to tell the player he owes the $80 and has to put it in. If he refuses, the floor should be called. J-Lady should not have had to say anything to get this taken care of.

Agree.. Only way out of calling the floor is if player refuses to put in $80 and other player in pot says to dealer its OK and to let it go IMO..

cant find my atm card,

does foxwoods cash personal checks at the cage?