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Stack sizes of the two limpers is very important. If one of them has less than 100bb then the any 2 button raise is not good idea. If you shove $300 on river he's going to put you on a flush only. So he's not going to call unless he has a flush, maybe he crying calls a set, cause it's a set.

ppl dont fold 2p in that spot that often (stack sizes) and if the Kx is a club he's almost never got a flush

So if you are up $300 in an hour you lock up the win? You should do the opposite of this and stay until you start losing and leave when you drop $300 in an hour. 1game needs to work on this too, as I know he won't ever leave when stuck and goes on drunken rage tilt (I've witnessed it.) This is probably more important than even technical play of specific hands. Don't take my word for it, this is what that Berry Beerstein fella says to do in his seminal work 'Ace in the Hole.'

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/33...e-hole-444134/

you should stay until you feel like leaving. its not like i dont have random 16hr sessions either.

The thing is a river shove isn't a 2.2x shove to these people. It's a "zomg $300 raise, I could buy a playstation 3 with that" shove. I think the typical 1/2 player will indeed fold two pair to a shove there. Also, A2c,A5c, make sense, but yeah fold is not an option.

i thought he said 300 effective (either before the hand or before the river doesnt rly matter). it's almost a min raise and villain only reps like 5 Kxcc flushes.

i dont think we're that good here but its still ev to shove...6 sets and 4 or so flushes (if limper is villain then he prob doesnt have KQ)...stacking 2 pair here would be pretty sweet so shove....expect to lose about half the time

It is almost a minraise, but a minraise that can't like ever be a bluff cause it's a river minraise facing a large donkbet from a guy that check/called two streets.

"it cant ever be a bluff" isn't a good enough reason to not min raise a rando 1/2 donk in a spot where its hard for him to have anything and we have the hand equivalent to a small flush. he might not even realize a flush got there

our equity isn't exactly amazing but its an unavoidable spot (avoidable by playing better earlier on)

raise > fold >>>>> call

6 sets (sure you meant 5?) I really don't think he ever has KK or 44 here. Also, A5c, A2c and A3c can get to this river.

why would he have either of th ose hands there? he has 22/55, Kxcc A3cc and some random 2p/missed straights sprinkled in

I was saying he can't have those hands. You said in post #7507 that he could.

i said he has 6 sets, 3 combos of 22/55...not 6 different sets lol


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Why do you think the flop c-bet is bad? He has six high and one of the driest flops possible with a gutshot to the nuts if called. And how can folding be better than calling? I suspect 1game just called and got shown like K9 and wondered if he missed value.

in general it's not good to cb multiway drawing pretty much dead...here i dont like it specifically because the board texture is pretty much locked up for the hand so you're going to be lighting money on fire attempting multiple bullets, and there's plenty of Kx's out there

i like folding bc his range might be exclusively flushes
i like raising bc we might as well valuebet the non flushes that we're trying to profit off of

calling is a guaranteed mistake against anyone who isn't perfectly balanced (has same amount of flushes as sets in their range) bc otherwise you should be folding [flush heavy] or raising [2p+ heavy], and lol @ anyone @ 1/2 MCC being balanced ever so its never a call here.

both limpers (fish) have $150+

DING DING DING

I flat, he shows a strangely played set of 5's and i try to see if i missed value

and if that isnt an ideal board to cbet than i dont know what is, i must be a fish?

looks like i was right again

Uhhhhhh......sure???? Not sure I've ever disagreed with anyone's analysis more than everything you've said in this thread
We're still cool tho?

LMFAOOOO

I'm at Metro airport on my way to Las Vegas to become a November Niner

I agree with Slater. You'll never win $1000 if you leave at $300. I realize there are situations, so I'm not judging your decision specifically.

There's no such thing as a session so who cares if you leave with 1000 or not. Mcc doesn't play deep enough that your odds of a greater win rate improve so much. Might as well leave when you feel