Oh solid. I hope I see a lot of two rack buy-ins on Wednesday when I'm in. I wonder if the air show will have a positive or negative impact on room. On one hand, people come to AC for the air show. But on the other hand, poker players might care for the air show over the usual routine.

Played poker for first time there Fri and early Sat. Good time all around. Been once before but was only there for a short time so played some other games.

Only two real issues one was something security dealt with for a friend and while they did what they could probably do, they kind of took a dick attitude to it...but the other was a guy who didn't tip the dealer and seemed like they were not getting along to well (pot hand before he won, although he was stacking his chips still) and the next hand the dealer deals him out and as he says something like where are my cards and dealer is just like oh well too late. That was kind of nasty to see


but overall great experience with solid dealers and I will try to make it more often when I am around

poker players care about poker.

Poker addicts care about poker. Poker players know how to enjoy other things other than poker.

Wat?

Knowing how to enjoy other things isn't mutually exclusive with caring about poker.

I understand that. My OP pondered whether the air show could pull people out of the poker room. Nocrying's response made it seem like poker players couldn't care about anything other than poker. I find that to be a fallacy.

2 tables of 7.50/15. This is so sweet. I hope this means that the game is here to stay. I just hope we can start to get the game running 7 days a week.

Thanks for all your hard work Stan in getting this game going and promoting it so diligently.


Jon

Leaving NYC in about an hour. Hey Stan, could you give a report on the games running at some point soon. Really hoping to play some pink chip.

Is the 4/8 HOSE game effectively dead now ?

If so, What about a pink chip HOSE game ?

I'd happily play either 4/8 or pink HOSE. There was actually a list of about 5-8 names for both games yesterday, but neither got called. I'm guessing it would have hurt the pink O8 game (which was going strong). I think the pink HOSE game may also be so close to the 10-20 OE game that it might hurt that game.

Still, I hope I'm wrong and one of these games can get going; I'd love to get some sort of rotation game going.

I'd love to play either.

Time for a live game report Sunday 12:40pm

(2) 2-4 LHE
(1) 3-6 LHE
(1) 7.50-15 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(1) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE

7.50-15 Omaha H/L calling it right now!
(1) 10-20 O.E.

(12) 1-2 NL
(8) 2-5 NL
(2) 5-10 NL

(112) 11am $220 + $30 Super Satellite (21) seats will be awarded


BBJP $113,846

Stan

my point was that airshow would not really pry many players away from the tables, so the effect would be minimal. i don't think the food shows, car shows etc. do either.

i enjoy many things away from the table, in no particular order my interests are are old cars, dogs, mixed media art installations, music, and women. so there are those of us who may be considered players/addicts/grinders who have varied interests outside the game.

End of weekend game report? Any chance the PCO8 is running?

Stan,

Headed down about 7 PM. Game report on 20/40, 40/80 LHE please.

Thanks

Time for a live game report Sunday 6:15pm

(3) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(1) 7.50-15 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE

(1) 7.50-15 Omaha H/L
(1) 10-20 O.E.

(17) 1-2 NL
(10) 2-5 NL
(4) 5-10 NL
(1) 10-20 NL

(112) 11am $220 + $30 Super Satellite (21) seats will be awarded
(79) 4pm $100 + $20 NL Tourny

BBJP $113,846

Stan

Update please Stan.

Time for a live game report Sunday 9:00pm

(3) 2-4 LHE
(1) 3-6 LHE
(1) 7.50-15 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE

(1) 7.50-15 Omaha H/L

(15) 1-2 NL
(9) 2-5 NL
(4) 5-10 NL
(2) 10-20 NL

(112) 11am $220 + $30 Super Satellite (21) seats will be awarded
(79) 4pm $100 + $20 NL Tourny

BBJP $113,846

Stan

After playing a lot of pink O8 this weekend, I wanted to start a discussion on the much-voiced fears from the 10-20 OE players that this would hurt/break their game.

I'm not sure I understand their concerns, as I think the pink O8 game could help the 10-20 OE game. Many two way players were playing in the pink O8 game while waiting, so it can sort of serve as a pseudo must-move game for the 10-20. (I realize this is not as ideal for them as an actual must-move, but it does give those players something close to play while waiting.) Eventually, it certainly could lead to players "stepping up" to the 10-20 game. I also think it will draw in people who never would have played 10-20 OE, which is generally advantageous for the room (and I think getting players into any game that's not NLHE will be good for any of these "alternative" games).

Nonetheless, I certainly may be wrong about the effects on the 10-20 OE game. I wouldn't particularly want to kill that game. Personally I'd prefer a pink game to anything 10-20, but I'd also prefer to play OE than just Omaha 8, so I wouldn't want to get rid of the only 2-way option.

Perhaps instead of pink O8 we could try for a pink HOSE instead? Pink HO? I assume there's no chance of simply changing the OE game from 10-20 to pink (with a kill, making it 10-20 or 15-30)?

Ahhh, just got back. I was going to do a separate TR thread, but I'm really lazy, plus I couldn't make up a good story that compares to an actual weekend of nineinchal's. So I'll just give some details.

Arrived at the Borg Friday night around 930. Pink chip HE and omaha are both running, so I am happy. An O8 seat opens first for me, and I play about 8 hands before my HE seat opens. The omaha game friday night didn't seem that good to me, but of course, I was only there for like 20 minutes. So I moved to the HE table.

I see one guy with a mountain of pinks, in 3-tiered wedding cake formation. Overly outgoing guy next to him motions that this guy has had 18 AA, 33 KK, 92 QQ or whatever and says he can't lose. I can believe the can't lose part, since he has like a third of the table's chips. I sit in the 7 seat, which I hate sitting in, but whatever.

Friendly game. I notice a couple familiar faces from various games, both at the Borg and other casinos, so I do believe that the PCG is bringing in outside customers. Always good. Big stack leaves the game shortly after I get there, and a couple people tell me he was not very nice, slowrolling them and such. We privately make fun of the mean guy.

I play until about 1am, and I don't have a remarkable session. Down about 150 bucks. btw, I started with just one rack of pinks, and that seemed to be the norm on Saturday.

Get to the Borg Saturday around 11am. Neither pink game is going. I put my name for both, then, after looking at the 10/20 2way table, decide not to play. Standard. I'm sorry Rush17 if you're a 10/20 2way regular there, but the typical player at that game is just miserable, and playing in that game is just torture. I think they were playing an hour of omaha8 and then a half hour of stud8, so they can minimize their stud8 play. They should just separate the two games now. The game is not successful if every time the game changes to stud8, 4 people take a walk.

But I digress. As I was saying, rather than play that game, I contemplate putting a fork in my eye.

Around noon, I think, the omaha game gets started first, which suprised me. I take my seat in the 8 spot, and that would be my home for about 12 hours. It was a very good game all day, with lots of multi-way action, good banter, just overall good fun. Didn't hurt that the deck just hit me all over. I decide to break my plans and stay at the omaha game when the HE games gets started.

I finally meet Stan, who immediately laughs at me when I say I'm from 2+2, and my sn is punkass. "You are not what I pictured in my head." I guess he may have been picturing a dorky white kid. Sorry to disappoint. You get a sarcastic Asian poker player. I know, rare.

A couple very minor concerns at the pink chip omaha hi/lo game:

1) Dealers who seemed unfamiliar with dealing the game were very confused when at the end of splitting the pot, they are stuck with a white chip and a pink chip. I thought it would be obvious, but I must've said "Pink goes to the high, white goes to the low" at least 8 times.

2) I would say more than half the dealers were raking 10% to $4 instead of 5%. Again, minor, but on those hands where it gets checked on the turn and river, it usually should be raked 2 or 3 bucks, instead of 4. I was noticing a lot of dealers were just raking 4 on the flop no matter what, and most of the time it is by the time the hand is over, but let's not assume it.

The game broke around midnight Sat night. Very good game overall. I would definitely play this or the pink hold em game each time. Stan deserves a lot of credit for getting these games going, dedicating 3 tables with pink chips. It was nice to just shake his hand for the effort he puts in.

Good report, punkass. Looks like you share my love of the pink chip game. Super fun and entertaining. The blind cap pre-flop is your friend.

To the extent that PC O8 is hurting 10-20 OE, it is because more than half of the players in the OE don't want to play stud 8 anyway. This fact has already hurt the OE game....stud 8 is often played short-handed because people sit out the stud rounds (and stud 8 sucks short-handed), and people get into arguments about whether they should eliminate those rounds altogether. And the game isn't great in any case...it is very slow, and often breaks completely when the old folks collectively decide to go to dinner.

So if PC 08 kills off 10-20 OE, it will be because PC O8 is a superior alternative for most of the existing OE player pool, as well as new players who have declined to play OE because they have no interest in stud.

As mentioned in an above post, I would love a pink-chip HO game. (Or a 15-30 HO game....so as to not so closely compete with 10-20 & 20-40 LHE!)

I doubt any of the regulars will move from the 10/20 2way to the PCG omaha hi/low game as their main game to play. I do think people who do not play the 10/20 2way game, for whatever reason, will play the pink omaha hi/low game.

I just got back from there myself and played with you in the pink omaha game. I moved from the pink holdem game and sat in the 4 seat (I think). If you are who I think you are, you had a nice castle design going with you chips when I sat down. The guy next to me mentioned that the guy in the 1 seat had threatened to throw something at it to knock it over.

This was my first time playing omaha in a live game and I had fun and will definitely be playing that game again.

I left just before midnight so I guess the game broke not long after I left. I'm glad it was running as long as it was and hope to see it back more often.

I too don't care for the 10/20 OE game at the Borgata cause of all the old crabby folks who usually start the game. Often, when it has a must move, that game is usually much better with more younger folks and better action.

I also hate when half the table gets up and walks for the stud round. Personally, I grew up playing stud and enjoy playing it and omaha as a welcome break from holdem. I see the pink chip game as a welcome alternative.