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View Poll Results: 18 man final table approximates closely to 9 man STT?
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235 34.92%
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413 61.37%
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25 3.71%

08-10-2010 , 11:31 PM
To get a perfect range, you'll have to use SNG wiz or some other ICM software. Honestly man, ATC is probably the answer if you think their calling ranges are really 3%. I would think they are calling wider than that though. You are playing in a $3 tournament. I wouldn't trust that anyone even knows what ICM means.

If you want a range (other than ATC), I would go with T2s+, T6o+, 22+, etc.
08-10-2010 , 11:35 PM
Cool will run it through something when I get time.

Basically I shoved 74hh and was snapped of by Kings.

Not worried about the cooler, more interested in whether or not ICM suicide was committed. Which it probably was.

**Edit**

Just ran it through wiz and it has it as a fold.

suggested range 55+, A9o+, A8s+, QJs+

Is this to nitty?
08-10-2010 , 11:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoneGrinding
Cool will run it through something when I get time.

Basically I shoved 74hh and was snapped of by Kings.

Not worried about the cooler, more interested in whether or not ICM suicide was committed. Which it probably was.

**Edit**

Just ran it through wiz and it has it as a fold.

suggested range 55+, A9o+, A8s+, QJs+

Is this to nitty?
WAT!? Dam that is not what i expected. This sounds waaaay too nitty. What did you use as their call ranges and did you set up the payout structure correctly?
08-11-2010 , 01:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bs_jayhawk
WAT!? Dam that is not what i expected. This sounds waaaay too nitty. What did you use as their call ranges and did you set up the payout structure correctly?
I have played around with wiz by adjusted the calling % of the 2 left to act.

I can manage to get the shoving ranges expanded out, however it is still a line ball decision.
08-11-2010 , 07:49 AM
read-less, really deep stacked with 14 left in a 9places paid 140ish man
Am I way too stubborn?

Full Tilt Poker $8 + $0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t50 - 7 players
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MP: t9067 M = 9.54
CO: t11220 M = 11.81
Hero (BTN): t21368 M = 22.49
SB: t6027 M = 6.34
BB: t26313 M = 27.70
UTG: t17284 M = 18.19
UTG+1: t4800 M = 5.05

Pre Flop: (t950) Hero is BTN with J T
UTG raises to t935, 1 fold, MP calls t935, 1 fold, Hero calls t935, 1 fold, BB calls t535

Flop: (t4290) 5 4 9 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t2935, MP folds, Hero calls t2935, BB raises to t5870, UTG requests TIME, UTG folds, Hero raises to t20383 all in, BB calls t14513

Turn: (t47991) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t47991) J (2 players - 1 is all in)
08-11-2010 , 09:44 AM
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players
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MP2: t1425 9.50 BBs
CO: t2090 13.93 BBs
BTN: t2130 14.20 BBs
SB: t4013 26.75 BBs
BB: t3635 24.23 BBs
UTG: t2665 17.77 BBs
UTG+1: t2530 16.87 BBs
Hero (UTG+2): t1550 10.33 BBs
MP1: t3307 22.05 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is UTG+2 with 4 4
2 folds, Hero?

question 2: why is my hand historie in BB´s instead of M? sucks pretty much
08-11-2010 , 10:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okerchamp
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players
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MP2: t1425 9.50 BBs
CO: t2090 13.93 BBs
BTN: t2130 14.20 BBs
SB: t4013 26.75 BBs
BB: t3635 24.23 BBs
UTG: t2665 17.77 BBs
UTG+1: t2530 16.87 BBs
Hero (UTG+2): t1550 10.33 BBs
MP1: t3307 22.05 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is UTG+2 with 4 4
2 folds, Hero?

question 2: why is my hand historie in BB´s instead of M? sucks pretty much
I shove this all day.
08-11-2010 , 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okerchamp
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players
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MP2: t1425 9.50 BBs
CO: t2090 13.93 BBs
BTN: t2130 14.20 BBs
SB: t4013 26.75 BBs
BB: t3635 24.23 BBs
UTG: t2665 17.77 BBs
UTG+1: t2530 16.87 BBs
Hero (UTG+2): t1550 10.33 BBs
MP1: t3307 22.05 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is UTG+2 with 4 4
2 folds, Hero?

question 2: why is my hand historie in BB´s instead of M? sucks pretty much
I'd fold. Our position, our stack and our hand, they all say "Don't!".

Last edited by joshua6666; 08-11-2010 at 10:35 AM. Reason: Also the blinds' stacks say No
08-11-2010 , 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okerchamp
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players
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MP2: t1425 9.50 BBs
CO: t2090 13.93 BBs
BTN: t2130 14.20 BBs
SB: t4013 26.75 BBs
BB: t3635 24.23 BBs
UTG: t2665 17.77 BBs
UTG+1: t2530 16.87 BBs
Hero (UTG+2): t1550 10.33 BBs
MP1: t3307 22.05 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is UTG+2 with 4 4
2 folds, Hero?

question 2: why is my hand historie in BB´s instead of M? sucks pretty much
looks pretty neutral ev to me
08-11-2010 , 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okerchamp
question 2: why is my hand historie in BB´s instead of M? sucks pretty much
THink its started doing this pre ante.
08-11-2010 , 12:04 PM
Two Final Table ICM spots

Hand 1

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t200 - 8 players
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Hero (UTG): t15507 M = 3.37
UTG+1: t33550 M = 7.29
MP1: t87937 M = 19.12
MP2: t23345 M = 5.08
CO: t21843 M = 4.75
BTN: t25550 M = 5.55
SB: t17304 M = 3.76
BB: t44964 M = 9.77

Pre Flop: (t4600) Hero is UTG with A 5
Hero?


Hand 2

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t200 - 6 players
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Hero (UTG): t15707 M = 3.74
MP: t29350 M = 6.99
CO: t83737 M = 19.94
BTN: t45388 M = 10.81
SB: t28950 M = 6.89
BB: t66868 M = 15.92

Pre Flop: (t4200) Hero is UTG with J 9
Hero?
08-11-2010 , 12:33 PM
Def shoving hand 2 six handed. Hand 1 is closer. Depending on what folks have been calling with and my image I think to determine shove/fold here.

Last edited by BAEVentures; 08-11-2010 at 12:40 PM.
08-11-2010 , 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshua6666
I'd fold. Our position, our stack and our hand, they all say "Don't!".
I'd probably fold here too, 77+, AJo+ is what I push with 10 bbs in early position.
08-11-2010 , 02:33 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $3,000(BB) Replayer
SB ($21,612)
BB ($85,342)
Hero ($163,046)

Dealt to Hero A A

Hero raises to $6,300, fold, BB calls $3,300

FLOP ($15,000) T J 3

BB checks, Hero bets $7,500, BB calls $7,500

TURN ($30,000) T J 3 K

BB bets $71,242 (AI), Hero ?

Opponent 38/21/3.2(307 hands) active and involved in a lot of pots but rarely much out of line at showdown. Folded opponent; very good & solid player = best player at table.
Call/Fold and other opinions are much appreciated
08-11-2010 , 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSnap77
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $3,000(BB) Replayer
SB ($21,612)
BB ($85,342)
Hero ($163,046)

Dealt to Hero A A

Hero raises to $6,300, fold, BB calls $3,300

FLOP ($15,000) T J 3

BB checks, Hero bets $7,500, BB calls $7,500

TURN ($30,000) T J 3 K

BB bets $71,242 (AI), Hero ?

Opponent 38/21/3.2(307 hands) active and involved in a lot of pots but rarely much out of line at showdown. Folded opponent; very good & solid player = best player at table.
Call/Fold and other opinions are much appreciated
Bet more on that drawy flop, 12567 seems about right to me. I can see opponent with KJ, KT, KQ, 33, or AsKx, here. I probably insta call in a pissed off sort of way on this turn, but I don't think he's repping a flush with the overbet here. 85% of the time I think he's got KQ maybe with the Qs.
08-11-2010 , 10:30 PM
What range do you think an unknown villain min-3bets with here?

I'd say tt+, aq+ but probably with some other random stuff as well.

Can I ever fold here?

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG: t1303 13.03 BBs
Hero (UTG+1): t4025 40.25 BBs
UTG+2: t1745 17.45 BBs
MP1: t3080 30.80 BBs
MP2: t3464 34.64 BBs
CO: t4110 41.10 BBs
BTN: t1980 19.80 BBs
SB: t810 8.10 BBs
BB: t1030 10.30 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is UTG+1 with 9 9
1 fold, Hero raises to t250, 3 folds, CO calls t250, BTN raises to t500, 1 fold, BB raises to t1030 all in, Hero ???
08-12-2010 , 08:15 AM
I see no reason to get involved with 99
08-13-2010 , 01:39 PM
Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500.00/t1000.00 Blinds - 6 players
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Hero (SB): t27190.00 27.19 BBs
BB: t5830.00 5.83 BBs
UTG: t14247.00 14.25 BBs
MP: t8371.00 8.37 BBs
CO: t22221.00 22.22 BBs
BTN: t5003.00 5.00 BBs

Pre Flop: (t1500) Hero is SB with 4 4
2 folds, CO raises to t2000, 1 fold, Hero raises to t5000, 1 fold, CO calls t3000

Flop: (t11000) A 8 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t5000.00, CO calls t5000

CO had been extremely active, and shown himself to be poor. Although i was new to the table he was a 43/14 with 0 hands 3b

Hand is kind of pukeworthy. A turn check gives up on the hand. I definantly feel the cbet size was slightly small. Thoughts?
08-13-2010 , 01:51 PM
well the 14 doesnt really indicate hes that much of a preflop agressor. I'd fold pre.
08-13-2010 , 05:13 PM
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t125 - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): t16443 M = 6.45
SB: t6314 M = 2.48
BB: t13521 M = 5.30
UTG: t7301 M = 2.86
MP: t4380 M = 1.72
CO: t30738 M = 12.05

Pre Flop: (t2550) Hero is BTN with 8 4
3 folds, Hero?

19 players left (moneybubble). BB seems like a tight reg
08-13-2010 , 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okerchamp
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t125 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): t16443 M = 6.45
SB: t6314 M = 2.48
BB: t13521 M = 5.30
UTG: t7301 M = 2.86
MP: t4380 M = 1.72
CO: t30738 M = 12.05

Pre Flop: (t2550) Hero is BTN with 8 4
3 folds, Hero?

19 players left (moneybubble). BB seems like a tight reg
Just fold
08-13-2010 , 06:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okerchamp
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t125 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): t16443 M = 6.45
SB: t6314 M = 2.48
BB: t13521 M = 5.30
UTG: t7301 M = 2.86
MP: t4380 M = 1.72
CO: t30738 M = 12.05

Pre Flop: (t2550) Hero is BTN with 8 4
3 folds, Hero?

19 players left (moneybubble). BB seems like a tight reg
Probably a fine shove from the SB, from the button with such a short SB and and an 11 bb effective stack against the BB shoving here is a mistake IMO. I play pretty insanely shove happy from 23 players left on in these, but this is too bold for my liking. I suppose if you thought the sb was a total nit who wanted to mincash and thus was calling with AK QQ+ which is pretty ridiculous and the bb was nitty as hell too calling maybe TT+ AQ+ then this would be +ev.
08-13-2010 , 06:32 PM
SB is a bad and could very well be wanting to mincash here.

I can't make wiz say fold to this. It´s close if they both are calling loose but I don't expect BB to call wider than A8+ KQ+ 22+ or something. many people will call even tighter imo.

I usually fold this myself too, just curious.
08-15-2010 , 04:14 PM
I'm currently trying to grind my roll back up, and recently came across the 1.4/90 KO's on stars. Have anyone played these? I'm trying to get an idea of what's attainable ROI-wise to determine if I should play something else instead. I'd also like to know the same about the 6's.
08-15-2010 , 06:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Rob Jr.
I'm currently trying to grind my roll back up, and recently came across the 1.4/90 KO's on stars. Have anyone played these? I'm trying to get an idea of what's attainable ROI-wise to determine if I should play something else instead. I'd also like to know the same about the 6's.
1.4/90s? There are $1.10 90s and $3.30/90 KOs, not sure what you mean by $1.40/90s. I would say in the $3.30/90s you should be able to get about 60% roi, possibly more. Probably 50% in the $6.50/90s. I have students starting to grind these instead of the $2.20/180s on Stars so I'll know more about what's sustainable soon.

      
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