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11-10-2011 , 01:15 PM
So Dean you're basically saying Deepak is not getting paid unless this is all forgotten about? Why don't you stop being a punk, grow up and own up to your own stupid mistakes. Pay back the money and move on.
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11-10-2011 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rumnchess
Ya didn't mean to derail, I'm just stating that slowrolling is neither standard nor funny (with some exceptions) in HUSNGs nor MTTs. On the other hand, when you and your buddies play a 1/2 game for fun, slowrolling should be encouraged, and if it isn't you, then you should find some new friends.

Obviously scamming is on a completely different level

/derail
noooo, **** that

keep derailing all u want, he wants this thing to blow over

it must become clear to him it wont blow over until he makes things right

u can talk about icecream flavors for all i care

bunza, tell me, what u wanted to do with mers again?
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11-10-2011 , 03:34 PM
omfg these transcripts are so tilting, he is holding hostage of money that isn't his, THATS NOT YOUR PEROGATIVE

what a massive scumbag
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11-10-2011 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Deepak

bunza, tell me, what u wanted to do with mers again?
plz nobody ever write this again
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11-10-2011 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rumnchess
Ya didn't mean to derail, I'm just stating that slowrolling is neither standard nor funny (with some exceptions) in HUSNGs nor MTTs. On the other hand, when you and your buddies play a 1/2 game for fun, slowrolling should be encouraged, and if it isn't you, then you should find some new friends.

Obviously scamming is on a completely different level

/derail
LOL gtfo.

I probs misplaced my wording though. I meant mtt regs I am friendly with, and I think it's completely std.

EDIT: or the ones I rly don't like.
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11-10-2011 , 04:55 PM
That stuff he´s saying is just the same any scammer does.
As long as you ask them nicely they ignore you and once you get mean they get outraged and legitimize(not sure if thats the right word) not paying you back because you dont "deserve" that.
I think some of those people actually work so long on the skill of rationalisation and lying to yourself that they believe themselves to do the right thing while they behave like complete scumbags...
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11-10-2011 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Deepak

bunza, tell me, what u wanted to do with mers again?
I'm not bunza, but as someone who is gay and has met mers, I can say I have no sexual attraction to him.

That guy is tall.
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11-10-2011 , 05:25 PM
Hey Dean

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Dean:
ok obv no getting anywhere, it can remain unresolved i guess. I'm 100% not shipping anything while that site is up. zero % chance. If the site was taking down and kept down for a while and i thought i could trust you while this whole thing blowed over, id ship back. but while its up, no xfer, and i will defend myself in building a site so its linked to your name everytime someone googles you.
t's not a threat, im just telling you exactly what im doing
and i dont have a choice, i feel its my only option while hat sites up. you are basically freerolling if u took site down, thats the ironic part, but w/e, do ur thing, ill do mine
This is unacceptable, you have zero leverage.

I'll make a dozen sites similar to his if you don't pay back, how is that?

Your sites about him will be slanderous anyways. Again, you have no leverage, you don't know anything about how these websites work, removal, legal aspects and so on. Stop being a scumbag, pay the money back, and maybe this all goes away. But you don't get assurances, you don't get promises and you get no favors. You've ****ed up too many times and it's ridiculous that you think you have any sort of play here other than paying back.

You're out of your element here and the fact that you've scammed so many over such little money shows how short sighted and undisciplined you are and your threats ring absolutely hollow to deepak and others.

Lets thing about this for a minute: Guy is so shady and desperate for a quick buck he scams a bunch of people he pretended to be friends with. Yea, that sounds like a guy dedicated to building sites to slander people, a guy that has the discipline and foresight to do it without legal liability. Good one Dean, we're all scared.
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11-10-2011 , 05:32 PM
I just hate the fact that just lately, whenever I've seen these type threads lately about people stealing, the culprits always seem to be British

I'm a proud Englishman and patriotic and hate feeling as though we don't get represent well when a few idiots come along and do stupid ****.

Hope you get your money back
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11-10-2011 , 05:38 PM
Just to add, he seems to have tried his very best to get that site off just because of potential people googling his name. If I was you I put it back up and just leave it.

I know that you are probably worried about having a site put up about you for the same reason even though it will all be lies. If that happens I think people that read this thread and the community could probably just help you about and create a few other random sites with your name and search them so that yours disappears in google obscurity. Not ideal I know, but better than letting a threat effect you. GL whatever you do
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11-10-2011 , 05:49 PM
i don't know how this works, but i could imagine that providers will be pretty easy to convince to remove a webpage when you threat them with legal consequences. on the other hand dean cannot really threaten them because the accusations the website makes are true.
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11-10-2011 , 05:51 PM
Just want to say that I have read all the transcripts between rafa and Dean and things make more sense to me now as to the order of events. Dean's behavior throughout this ordeal is unacceptable in no uncertain terms, but I do not believe he was out to scam (Putting aside other issues and just speaking of this one at hand).

As a scam, this would be the most ******ed scam ever. Esp given that he sent back $400 of the $800 or so owed.

There is a chance he was borrowing the $$$ in order to freeroll profits and only payback if he won. But given that he did in fact make money after he borrowed the $600 from Rafa it would only be speculation (in which case I guess we could look at his other history etc and make decisions about the likelihood).

IMO, the website doesn't need to be up regarding this issue. There is apparently another issue I know nothing about so cannot comment on what they will/should do appropriately.

He still should 100% be paying Rafa the $$ back though, and if he doesn't it seems I've probs made a misread on the situation.
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11-10-2011 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by UniqueFreak
Just to add, he seems to have tried his very best to get that site off just because of potential people googling his name. If I was you I put it back up and just leave it.
No, havent u ever heard that the threat of making something is worse the actually doing that something?
It way more tilting for him to keep checking if site is back on, cause he has no idea of what will be there, then to actually see, oh site's back on....
Plus he can still make emends.


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Originally Posted by UniqueFreak
I know that you are probably worried about having a site put up about you for the same reason even though it will all be lies. If that happens I think people that read this thread and the community could probably just help you about and create a few other random sites with your name and search them so that yours disappears in google obscurity. Not ideal I know, but better than letting a threat effect you. GL whatever you do

I am not worried at ALL
I tho i made myself clear in last posts I didnt let threat affect me, if he thinks that he's dumb, but I think he doesn't.
I was shocked, not worried. Right now Im having fun
Its ****** Dean lol, he can't do ****

He just thinks he hit rock bottom and now is trying to make desperate moves (kinda like degen gamblers) but it seems he doesnt realize that things are adding up.
If he paid me the 1st time it would all be forgotten, then he made same thing 2nd time, instead of paying back he did what he did, now he is 'planning' to make fake sites about me/my family... those things are adding up really fast

Last edited by Deepak; 11-10-2011 at 06:07 PM.
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11-10-2011 , 06:03 PM
Yea, except he "hit rock bottom" last time we had to deal with this crap when he wasn't sending money back to Dale.

And what about that March thing?

Too many times, he should be sending the money back right away and then begging you to take the site down. Not the other way around.

You made the thread, he still didn't pay back, now you make the site and he threatens you/gives ultimatums?

I say you leave the site until he pays back, not the other way around. The longer he waits, the more it gains juice in google. Add a backlink a day to it via a web directory and add $5 a day to the tab for your time. He either pays back or has a site #1 on google about the FACTS of what he's done (stolen/scammed) for every single person he knows who googles his name.

No need for hollow threats of violence or fantasy payback, the above is fair game if you just include the facts of what he's done.
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11-10-2011 , 06:06 PM
^ this

dean, if you find a simple statement of the facts of reality so disagreeable, it means youre living your life wrong
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11-10-2011 , 06:09 PM
I just got owned by rypac...
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11-10-2011 , 06:12 PM
Deepak, the fact that you gave him the money in the first place is commendable. I sympathize with you because I too am the kind of person who would lend a friend his last bucks because they ask for it. I know the feeling of getting ****ed over for doing so too.

Since the money means a lot to you, perhaps we 2p2 regs can take away this kind of leverage from Dean. Count up how much he owes you, $200 plu .075 of all Sharkscope profits from the day you leant it to him. Post the total. Then, as a community, we can pool together resources and lend it to you till it is paid back by Dean. This way you have full leverage to expose his behavior since you do not need the money, and you do not suffer from the lack of grind money.

I mean, it's not a huge sum of money. There should be more than enough ppl here who can spare some $ for someone like you, me included. We really should do everything possible to discourage scams in the future. But more importantly I think that behavior like Deepak's shouldn't be discouraged due to scamming and loaning to Deepak the money owed to him is a step in the right direction imo.
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11-10-2011 , 06:19 PM
Yea, I will 100% be willing to lend deepak $$ if thats ^^^ the way he chooses to go.
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11-10-2011 , 06:24 PM
dude ur missing the point, this is not a charity organization
Dean Letham owes me money

the more time passes, the less i need the money because I am rebuilding my roll, 3 months ago this money was nothing to me, the more time passes the more this will become lol to me.

I explained why I lend him the money, I wouldn't do it to anyone, just a handfull of ppl, and he might be at the top.
He abused my trust, and showed himself to be trash as a person (i didnt know his previous history)
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11-10-2011 , 06:25 PM
Hey, count me in. I can def. lend you $$$ if you need it now Deepak...not sure you do tho but if u do just ask.
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11-10-2011 , 06:30 PM
Obviously Dean owes you the money.

I just think that fronting you the money he owes you makes it easier to leverage your position since you're not desperate for the money and makes you lose less for having leant it in the first place. I just think its terrible that you have already lost so much by not having the money. Just trying to do what's in my power.

Sorry if I offended you somehow by offering you $
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11-10-2011 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
Obviously Dean owes you the money.

I just think that fronting you the money he owes you makes it easier to leverage your position since you're not desperate for the money and makes you lose less for having leant it in the first place. I just think its terrible that you have already lost so much by not having the money. Just trying to do what's in my power.

Sorry if I offended you somehow by offering you $
lol no u didnt
but im not desperate for money anyway, i was a bit right after he did it

idk it just doesn't fells right
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11-10-2011 , 06:41 PM
k suit yourself :P
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11-10-2011 , 06:48 PM
Wow, reading his responses is sooo tilting. I know its probably not enough money involved to bring up your legal options, but I know that "threat" does change a lot of peoples minds. They get "trapped" in this online world where they think it isn't real life. I think online poker players are at the top of that list because we spend so much time in front of our computers. From how Dean has reacted to the site, (he actually got into contact with you,) I think a possible legal threat will be the last straw to get you your money. Once **** gets real, they usually pay up.
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11-10-2011 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
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No need for hollow threats of violence or fantasy payback, the above is fair game if you just include the facts of what he's done.
Just read this.
Sry, if my tone gave away this, it was really not my intention at all, i know i have all reason by my side just in case it goes beyond here, and i wish to keep it that way, not trying to make it a dispute of who's right.
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