Easy street is legit as far as I know, I know of grinders using it and they haven't reported anything suspicious about it.

We are looking for few more players, small friendly challenge : 100$ buyin WINNER TAKE ALL Volume race for June 1-30, Any stakes 15$ and up will count. PM me and ill add you in group chat for more discussion!!!

Hey guys, Iv been out the game for a while,

Started grinding the 7s, any idea how 15% ev ROI at $7s would translate to $15 and $30

Would appreciate any educated guess. I was thinking (hoping) around 7% and 3-4%??

Noob question - is 15% EV ROI = 110 chipEV (at $7, where rake is 7% aka 35 chips)?

Not sure,

My stats are not updated to the rake increase, but 110 seems correct.
Im at 105 now, I think that is with stat for 5% rake (from old $30s).

Someone please enlighten us with the right formula

13,46

(((110+500)/1500)*3*0,93-1)*100

Is there any material explaining the difference or relationship between chip ev, cEv, actual chips won, ev roi and true roi.

It seems like in every graph I've seen chip ev is always higher than actual chips won. And ev roi is never close to your true roi.

It seems like people are just fishing for the big spins and if you'd don't hit them and win you can not make actual $$ in this format.

Are there any links to some in depth discussion on true win rates in this format?

you can easily substract the probability of hitting a big one if you feel more comfortable with that

yep no one wins unless they hit a jackpot :|

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If rake was lower, I'd consider dropping to $15s just for that sexy ROI/no swings

I thought the rake increase has made BRM tighter and thus made dropping down even more appropriate...

The rake increase didn't happen for 30s+ I don't think.

How is Spinlyzer calculating Spin ROI?

If we use this person for example, his EV ROI= [(66.8+500)/1500] * (1-0.06)*3-1 = 6.56%, but Spinlyzer shows his SPIN ROI as 7.3%...

I'd guess because rake used to be 5%.

if u could play 10k a month u could print imo, rayden went and played 5k at 15s a few months back and made chunks hes not human tho
have no idea mate need to ask someone smarter than me rake changed at all stakes 30 and below tho so maybe theyre using the old rake calc for it not sure

It didn't happen for 60s-100s, but did happen for 30s. I was talking about the drop from 30s to 15s.

Calling All Twister Grinders! I see Coral Poker just announced a Twister Race starting next week Vegas package up for grabs - 1 point for winning a Twister any stakes

How many tables per hour at 4 tables? Both in sets and constantly registering?

32

4 tables constant with close to none timedowns is 30 games an hour at 15s.26-27 an hour at 30s,less higher.

RIP €5 Twister because the worst of the high volume €10 regs will move down as their rake return % wouldn't be high enough if they stayed at the €10 level.

I think I'll adjust to the situation by spending this June at partypoker instead.

I'd be going from $60s/$100s to $15s.

Lol, are you taking the piss abarone? Xaxaxa, maybe when all the 60 and 100$ regs come to the 15s, the 15$ regs must consider going to the 60 and 100s, since they will be juicier

My original comment was somewhat offhand, but I genuinely do think that the preRB hourly between $15s and $100s might not be that far off.

A 2% grinder at the $100s playing 35 games/hour = $70/hour. I'd have to imagine that edge would be 7-8% in $15s plus could probably increase the table count a bit. Perhaps 45-50 games/hour? 50 games hour x $1.20/game = $60/hour.

Even using the higher end of my projections there's definitely a difference favoring the $100s, but factoring in the lower swings with a higher edge, I'm wondering if grinding $15s would be a more enjoyable experience. I'm not about to move down tomorrow, but it's an interesting thought experiment.