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01-20-2016 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rreynders


As you can see from game 600 to 2500 i made around 0 profits... i hope this gives you an idea about the variance in outcomes.
This is the 7dollar spin go level
I thought you should never mix $ and chips in a graph?
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01-20-2016 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by chaosad
I thought you should never mix $ and chips in a graph?
I guess the slope of the graph becomes a bit doubtful but besides that what is the trouble in doing this?
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01-20-2016 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Are there many winners who play these spin and goes and make it their primary game?

I'm wondering whats even a good roi for these at each level. And those that play it only... how many games at once?


So basically the top prize for each buyin level... assumings someone hits it... another one could also be hit very close to it? Someone else mentioned that even if someone hits the big prize for a particular buyin, someone can also hit it pretty soon etc.
I guess the first answer is obvious because every niche in poker has a reg population...especially in a relatively new and fish flooded game like Spin Go...A decent Roi for the stakes i play: decent 0-5 good 5-9 crushing 9+ at the 7s...i just started at the 15s so it is hard for me to say anyting about those....For the levels 0.25 1 & 3 i think Roi can even exceed the Roi"s above....i play 3 tables at once but i don't play for a living....i have read already some posts of people playing 8 at once....Prizepools are random so the chance that you hit them is the same in every game regardless of how often it already appeared in the past.
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01-20-2016 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rreynders


As you can see from game 600 to 2500 i made around 0 profits... i hope this gives you an idea about the variance in outcomes.
This is the 7dollar spin go level
pro
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01-21-2016 , 04:43 AM
pretty sweet graph for a guy that doesnt do pokers for a living
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01-21-2016 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Rreynders


As you can see from game 600 to 2500 i made around 0 profits... i hope this gives you an idea about the variance in outcomes.
This is the 7dollar spin go level

That red line though... I don't understand which part of my game makes mine plummet. Min/r fold pre too much? Not enough cbetting with showdown value? Not following up with my bluffs enough... Damn
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01-21-2016 , 06:06 PM
We've had some requests for a separate thread for beginner type questions. Go ahead and post those in the newly created beginners thread - http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18.../#post49154692
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01-22-2016 , 08:35 AM
Guys if over decent sample my cEV at 7's is around 100 should I be worried if my redline is slightly losing or ignore redline as long as cEV is fine ?
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01-22-2016 , 09:40 AM
These humble brags are getting subtler and subtler.
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01-22-2016 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ireapu
Guys if over decent sample my cEV at 7's is around 100 should I be worried if my redline is slightly losing or ignore redline as long as cEV is fine ?
You should definitely worry about it!
If I were you, I'd drop down a limit and I'd try to fix this huge leak.
Gl!
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01-22-2016 , 01:58 PM


No money in 7s - every solid reg wins over 140 EV chips per tourney. Shame on those who win only 100.
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01-22-2016 , 02:25 PM
I've missed you cøøn.
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01-22-2016 , 05:24 PM
ty guys, I'll drop to 0.5$ and thanks to y'all I'll spin myself a cool millie without fixing my leaks! win-win
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01-28-2016 , 09:00 PM
Somebody say something! The silence in here is killing me!
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01-29-2016 , 09:52 PM
no money in 7s every1 crushing
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01-29-2016 , 11:30 PM
I've been rather annoyed by the frequency of getting two multitablers as opponents in a 7... but I've never counted it precisely, so I might be seeing ghosts.

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Originally Posted by nateofclubs
Somebody say something! The silence in here is killing me!
The spinners are too busy criticising newbs in the new sticky.
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01-29-2016 , 11:47 PM
Everything there is to say about spins has been said

Format dead

The grind, the 9-5

Neither let us feel

Alive
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01-30-2016 , 10:48 PM
someone already hit the supercar?

its about time
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01-31-2016 , 11:41 PM
so those $60 10000x spinners.... whats up?
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02-02-2016 , 06:07 PM
For the Spin & Go regs here, what's your ROI over a decent sample size? I've played 7000 tournaments to date and I'm sat at 7% - trying to get an idea for comparison.
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02-02-2016 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RankLocally
For the Spin & Go regs here, what's your ROI over a decent sample size? I've played 7000 tournaments to date and I'm sat at 7% - trying to get an idea for comparison.
staakes?

good at any level anyway is it evROI or $roi

also whats the deal with the new jackpots 7s and 15s popping off every other day 60s not dropped one lol and mil 2ce? (hundos) surely that cant be right all about that 4x hype anyway
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02-02-2016 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by squire1888
staakes?

good at any level anyway is it evROI or $roi

also whats the deal with the new jackpots 7s and 15s popping off every other day 60s not dropped one lol and mil 2ce? (hundos) surely that cant be right all about that 4x hype anyway

I appreciate the quick response.

I'm running just below EV - and currently playing between $3s and $7s - few unsuccessful attempts at staying up before moving back down for BR management. Hope to take another shot within the next few days play.
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02-03-2016 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RankLocally
I appreciate the quick response.

I'm running just below EV - and currently playing between $3s and $7s - few unsuccessful attempts at staying up before moving back down for BR management. Hope to take another shot within the next few days play.
ok so is the ROI ur dollar ROI or your evROI (chips per game x ITM or something i can be corrected not sure how they work it) i have the stat if u want it for pt4. assuming its ur EVROI ur crushing variance is a bitch move up when ur BR permits and GLGL
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02-04-2016 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by squire1888
ok so is the ROI ur dollar ROI or your evROI (chips per game x ITM or something i can be corrected not sure how they work it) i have the stat if u want it for pt4. assuming its ur EVROI ur crushing variance is a bitch move up when ur BR permits and GLGL
Thanks..I'm running PT4... complete noob to the software and these forums so yeah if you could grab it that would be great.
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02-04-2016 , 12:23 PM
I have a question about the "net expected chips won" line on PT4 because this is often referred as your EV. But how reliable is this EV when it just shows you your all-in equity?

For example, when I'm heads up and my opponent has like 7-8 bb and I'm shoving pretty wide because he's folding quite some hands, sooner or later he calls me with probably a better hand but is down to let's say 3-4 bb. This will give me negative chipEV while in reality I've made him fold till he's only got half his stack and still i have for example a 40% chance of winning the hand. Even if I lose, he's only at his starting hu stack so that's a good thing right? But based on the chipEV line, this will probably be a losing play right?

I know there's also the "chips won without showdown" line but I don't know how that should be implemented into the expected winrate chipwise. Or is that impossible?

Because where I'm trying to get at, is that I use my "net expected chips won" line (all-in equity) to calculate my expected winrate in $$ but I'm starting to doubt that this is as accurate as I thought it would be.

Any help on this would be very welcome.
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