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01-07-2016 , 11:08 AM

#3826

Mrtrebus

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,962

Is there a chipEV stat in PT4 or is it a custom stat I need to import/create myself?

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01-07-2016 , 12:02 PM

#3827

doodiewiz

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 371

Tis an easy stat to make:

amt_expected_won / cnt_tourneys

But it's also here somewhere free to download:

https://www.pokertracker.com/custom/stats

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01-07-2016 , 12:15 PM

#3828

Mrtrebus

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Originally Posted by doodiewiz

Tis an easy stat to make:

amt_expected_won / cnt_tourneys

But it's also here somewhere free to download:

https://www.pokertracker.com/custom/stats

Thanks

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01-08-2016 , 05:10 PM

#3829

Newbie2127

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 10

Hello. I'm pretty new to spin & gos. Is this standard swings to spin & gos? I play 1$ level and had pretty brutal day.

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01-08-2016 , 06:45 PM

#3830

22riverrat22

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Originally Posted by Newbie2127

Hello. I'm pretty new to spin & gos. Is this standard swings to spin & gos? I play 1$ level and had pretty brutal day.

32(?unsure about the 1s) ev chips per tourney go to rake so with 14 ev chips per tourney you earned you are supposed to be losing

however you are running under ev, partiably due to not hitting a 10,000x during your session, its possible you will hit it next session

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01-08-2016 , 07:19 PM

#3831

Newbie2127

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 10

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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22

Yes, 14 ev chips losing. I think 35 chips is brek-even.
But I was asking what kindof swings do ppl have in spin & gos? Here is my whole graph of playing them. 1$ games mainly, some 0.50c and 0.25c.

Can u guise post your own graphs thank u!

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01-08-2016 , 10:16 PM

#3832

siebenacht

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,610

You will have 30 BI downswings alot. You will sometimes have even bigger swings. Nothing unusual even if you are playing the best game. The smaller the stakes are the less you should tend to have big swings. Practice conservative br management and you won't have any trouble.

Your sample size is too small to make any assumption about the quality of your game. You are just more likely to be a winner than a loser (in terms of won chips ofc). Play 2k+ games and come back.

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01-09-2016 , 02:16 PM

#3833

Griesball

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 84

Maybe this is better off in the software forum, but does anyone have an idea why Poker Tracker 4 shows a weird prize pool of 141% of the normal amount for some 2x tourneys?

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01-09-2016 , 02:33 PM

#3834

Max Cut

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Originally Posted by Griesball

Maybe this is better off in the software forum, but does anyone have an idea why Poker Tracker 4 shows a weird prize pool of 141% of the normal amount for some 2x tourneys?

Sounds like it's assigning the average prize pool (for 6% rake). It does that on sites that don't put the prize pool in the hand history or tournament summary.

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01-09-2016 , 04:00 PM

#3835

Griesball

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 84

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Originally Posted by Max Cut

Sounds like it's assigning the average prize pool (for 6% rake). It does that on sites that don't put the prize pool in the hand history or tournament summary.

Dunno, for most tourneys it shows the actual prize (2x 4x 6x, etc), only some have this weird number. This is Poker Stars btw.
The average minus rake thing checks out though.

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01-09-2016 , 04:11 PM

#3836

Max Cut

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Originally Posted by Griesball

Dunno, for most tourneys it shows the actual prize (2x 4x 6x, etc), only some have this weird number. This is Poker Stars btw.
The average minus rake thing checks out though.

In that case, it sounds like it's not getting the prize pool amount for some reason. Perhaps a few missing tournament summaries or some sort of PT4 bug. I would check one of the instances and see if the TS is correct. Then post in the PT4 thread if the TS is there and correct.

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01-09-2016 , 04:22 PM

#3837

Griesball

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I´m putting on my tinfoil sweatpants here and ask, when pokerstars is not including prizepool in 20%+ of tournament reports, do they do it to prevent us from verifying the actual multiplyer numbers.
I had the impression with 3$ spins that their numbers check out (1000 games sample), but for the dumb 0.50s I made a list out of curiosity today and am at
1$ 93,75%, 2$ 3,125%, 3$ 3,125% (lol sample of 64).
Does anyone have a real sample of those new 0.50s to ease the paranoia?

@Max Cut: Embarrassingly I can´t find the Summary Files in my App Data Folder, neither in the Stars nor in the PT4 folder.

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01-09-2016 , 04:34 PM

#3838

Adversity

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 617

No because I just search the tournament number and then edit it in PT4. It's quite simply an importing error.

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01-10-2016 , 04:38 AM

#3839

Pl@yerABC

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Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 78

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Originally Posted by Newbie2127

Hello. I'm pretty new to spin & gos. Is this standard swings to spin & gos? I play 1$ level and had pretty brutal day.

You should save this post and look at it in 3 months time when you will be playing higher. Your definition of a "brutal day" will change a lot

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Great to see that you are starting at this level and not playing over your head! This kind of discipline is very important for success.
Yes, these kind of swings (and even much bigger) are part of the game, so don't worry. When I was starting my journey as a poker player I spent to much time studying the ev-lines. I would suggest to focus on the game, post and analyze hand histories and try every method available to improve as quickly as possible.

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01-10-2016 , 10:13 AM

#3840

squire1888

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Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,683

https://gyazo.com/57a8a9369b24643c4c4abb6eeb3b45fe

lol amaya

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01-12-2016 , 12:12 AM

#3841

Broeder Tuck

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Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 153

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Originally Posted by doodiewiz

Tis an easy stat to make:

amt_expected_won / cnt_tourneys

But it's also here somewhere free to download:

https://www.pokertracker.com/custom/stats

Thanks for this!

Is there also a stat that shows you how much $ you made, based on your chipEV for spin & go's?

And I've noticed that some have an evITM% stat as well, would like to have that too!

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01-12-2016 , 04:06 AM

#3842

Pyha Karu

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Which is the best HUD for spin n gos right now? Any new and better ones coming out soon?

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01-12-2016 , 09:33 AM

#3843

joohnjoohn

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Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 16

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Originally Posted by Broeder Tuck

Is there also a stat that shows you how much $ you made, based on your chipEV for spin & go's?

!

Swongsim is free and does this for you.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ukpadqy24s...ngSim.exe?dl=0

you can also do other things like simulations with it. wich can be good for understanding variance in spins better.

" if i have this chip/ev over 10k games i would make enough $ to move up in stakes 7 out of 10 times acording to swongsim"

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01-12-2016 , 09:34 AM

#3844

rachit12

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 73

spinbeast HUD and currr14 HUD are two HUDS available out there , i am personally using spinbeast HUD , hope that helps

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01-12-2016 , 12:58 PM

#3845

ChicagoRy

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,589

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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu

Any new and better ones coming out soon?

We have a new one coming out this week on HUSNG.com for PT4.

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01-13-2016 , 01:00 PM

#3846

Broeder Tuck

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Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 153

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Originally Posted by joohnjoohn

Thanks but I meant a PT stat. I already downloaded the evROI% stat so it shouldn't probably be that hard. I just need to multiply this with my buy-in and # of spin & go's and divide it by 100 right? But I don't know how to create such a stat.

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01-13-2016 , 01:14 PM

#3847

Max Cut

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Originally Posted by Broeder Tuck

EV ROI $ based on EV chips:

(((amt_expected_won / cnt_tourneys + 500) / 1500 * (1 - (amt_fee / amt_buyin_fee)) * 3) - 1) * amt_buyin_fee * cnt_tourneys

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01-13-2016 , 02:28 PM

#3848

Newbie2127

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

EV ROI $ based on EV chips:

(((amt_expected_won / cnt_tourneys + 500) / 1500 * (1 - (amt_fee / amt_buyin_fee)) * 3) - 1) * amt_buyin_fee * cnt_tourneys

Hey. How do I get that to see in graph?