Lmfao was curious how long it'd take to get this point in the thread.


Cheers!!!

"Either or fallacy". Try again, dope.

Sadly, not very long. But at the same time, the more moronic the poker players are, the easier it is to take their money. So kind of ambivalent about it all.

I rather talk about poker theory, but sadly I tried bringing up a subject that these fish can't discuss intelligently, for the most part. There were a few OK responses, but not many.

Any time you want to get crushed, here I am https://lichess.org/@/UFOCLUB
BTW in real life I would not even talk to morons like you guys. Just have no idea who you are beforehand, but not doubt if I saw you all first I would not even bother debating obvious simps lol

Cant wait to nerf this dudes bankroll.

Come at me OP ya flippin moran.

Clearly a 2NL fish with this ridicoulos redline.

What a moron....

Why not post the stakes breakdown?
You can see it at the picture: the "My C/100" is a very short number - so it's a ridicolous 12bb at 2NL - hahhahhahahahhaa

30NL at pokerstars?

Strange limit - I only know 25NL and 50Nl???
Maybe you never played such a limit if you are so clueless 2NL warrior?

They do have 30NL at Stars.us afaik

Hay OP,
Good read so far just wanted to know what your bb/100 is and what ur chest rating was on lichess?
Thank

Stars you buy in for 30 dollars, it is 30 nl. Though perhaps my genius brain overlooks the 25 nl that it might actually be called. FYI Smart people do things like that lol

Reason is I do not want to be identified. But I can assure you it is not 2 nl. Do you really think you can play like a nut peddler at 2nl and get 12 bb per 100? Think man, try to think a bit farther than your feet.

I started at 2 nl about 2 years ago, right before the pandemic. Those games suck. I do still play as low as 10nl when the games are good and I can play 10 tables etc. I typically play 30 nl to 100 nl. It is 30 nl because 30 is 100 bb on stars cash games.

In any case my graph does look like a tight nut peddler. However the clue I am not is that I got 12 bb per 100. You can't get a win rate like that nut peddling. No one would give you the action and you would never run that hot for so long. None of you geniuses realized that though, did you?

Though to be fair it is understandable. People who play like me are very rare. I make folds when most of you would assume you have to call, because of your SPR, pot odds etc. I just happen to be so good at hand reading, and also knowing my opponents, that I get away from losing big stacks, when most players, even very good ones would call. But I do play mostly low stakes, which includes 2 5. These players are not balanced, so it allows me to make big exploitative folds and also big calls.

Not sure what you would call it,but I am brilliant at making big folds and calls. As a result, I do have a graph that looks like a nut peddler lol. But fact is I bluff and am also more balanced then most of you ever would be. I study poker math, and I know this game very well. You can ask me any poker math question you like, and I will answer it for you. Give me any poker problem or quiz to solve. Test me if you like.

I am a genius. And you fish should be able to tell by my chess rating alone that I am far superior to most of you. I am rated well over 2100 USCF, and I am just a casual chess player. Some of my online blitz ratings are over 2500 on sites where I was able to play GMs and IMls often. I am only showing my relatively modest Lichess profile, but it is still far superior to any of your abilities at strategic games.

In any case here it is in a nut shell. I play low to medium stakes cash games online and live. I am a winning player. I am a TAG, but I do mix LAG into my play. I have only been playing poker for about 5 years. Perhaps I will turn into a LAG in the future. I would like to.

I don't give a S if you think I am weak. Talking to you guys reminds me of a bunch of second graders to be honest. In any case when I play poker I never talk about this stuff. People have very fragile egos, and it was not my intention to make anyone feel bad in any way.

If one or two smart people on this site read something that I said, and get it, then that is good enough. Insult me if you want, I really do not care. You guys think I am here for ego gratification you are wrong. I do not have my ego wrapped up in poker. The game is very interesting and fun,but I realized a while a go that ego is a bad thing in poker. Best to be very level headed about it. The real reward is winning money in the long run.

I do apologize to anyone out there who might have taken my comments personally and did not deserve it. I was a bit surprised at all the negativity my posts received. I know some of you people are very smart and strong players, so to those people, I am not talking to you when I mention people being fish. The rest of you however are wonderful people. I can not tell you how happy I am that so many stupid people play the game of poker. Love you all :-)

Also, I did post a graph that showed my red line is much improved. But here is a little fact. If you are brilliant at making big folds, that is going to show on your redline in a negative way. But will give you a higher win rate over time. My average bb per 100 over all stakes since the pandemic ended is 8bb per 100. But I have improved a lot since then. Sadly I lost most of my stats when my computer crashed, who knew you had to do a backup, I am pretty new, but I do keep a written chart of my rate over the months.

BTW not one fish on here challenged me at chess so far. Guess you are all scared. Of course if you truly are good player rated over 2100 plus then I am not talking to you. But most of you are total fish, that is a safe bet.

Post your winnings per stakes - so easy to show you are not lying...

You will not do because you are a 2nl fish - lol

As i already wrote: your "My C / day",which you blackened, is a very short term - it's a single digit number with a comma and 2 digits after.
So your winnigs per day are max 9,99 dollar.
Sorry, you made a big mistake you lying 2nl fish - lol

Chest rating lol I am sure yours is embarrassingly low.. don't be a jealous hater fish. I know dumb people like to gang up on smart people sometimes, makes the dummies feel better about themselves. I knew someone from Brooklyn that used to call it chest. He was a decent player too.
But if it makes you pathetic low IQ types feel any better. I am really stupid. I am just pretending to be good. Does that make all your insecure morons happy now Think what you like about me, I am laughing all the way to the bank.

You're the fish that asked if it's possible to win at 100 nl without a positive redline. LOL seriously though, it is a good topic to look at in some detail, redline is very interesting, however your incredibly naive question tells me you're understanding of poker is at a caveman level.
But yeah I just win 5 dollars here and there. You got me. I am really a losing player just trying to get complements on here. Wow you really called me out. I should just go back to working at burger king. I thought I was going to be worshiped by everyone here , but oh no Think what you like about me dopes. I don't care if you think I am the worst or best player ever. I would like to have a serious discussion about the subject I brought up, but apparently this has become some kind of clown show cause a bunch of insecure fish feel as if their ego is on the line.

I know one thing, most poker players respect chess. So if you think I am a fake or fraud, challenge me here, but none of you will cause you are all scared https://lichess.org/@/UFOCLUB

Can you please explain the following - how could it be?

your "My C / day", which you blackened, is a very short term - it's a single digit number with a comma and 2 digits after. So your max win/day is 9,99 dollar..

More big hands means more money goes in, which means more rake. If anything they would rig it the opposite way

Good point, why else block out C/100 but not bb/100 when one tells the other if it's really 100NL as he claims. And a terrible redline is the way to crush micros but not 100NL on stars.

This guys trolling us

Yes, if they were trying to do it to outright cheat for profit, but they are not doing that. They are not trying to cheat, that would make it illegal, so no, they would not dare do what you mentioned, cause if they get caught they are screwed. They would NERF it though. It has the advantage, ,in their minds, of keeping the weak players happier by not getting eaten alive by the sharks too fast. They don't want the sharks destroying the fish. Sometimes people do this out of jealousy. The CEO could be some weak player who hates good players.
I have seen this happen in the chess world. One of my friends used to be a director of the US Chess Fedration. To this day he runs events so that prizes are given out in a more random way, because he hates seeing the higher rated players winning all the money. Though I doubt that was the motivation. Poker Stars feels the cash games should be more even.
I am not sure exactly why they do it, but they are definitely doing it. You guys really are blind to the big picture.
It is demonstrably obvious. No way I should be seeing so many boats, quads and straight flushes at live games on a regular bases, and yet so few of those big hands online, and I am playing so many more hands online. You easily see 3000 hands per day multi tabling, at a casino you will see at most 250 hands in 10 hours. 250x9x10 at a live game, assuming the ten live tables are 9 ring.
Either their random generator is flawed, or it is intentional. Either way it needs to be addressed. I won over $19,000 the year of covid. I know the cash games are still profitable with reasonably sized player pools.
That does not excuse what they are doing however. It simply is not fair to the good players who work hard and study to improve their game. Sure we can still win with our edge of skill, but the fact we have to sit through so many null hands is BS.
Anyone of you guys who plays live poker with high hand bonus's. Just start writing down every high hand that is on the board per hour. Compare it to your online results proportionally. You will see that it's demonstrably obvious something is wrong with the way poker stars cash games play.
If you are not on poker stars then maybe it is different. I have only ever played on stars.

Wat was ur chest rating? And your bb/100 u didn't answer my question...I looked through the thread again and I couldn't find you talking about it
Thank

I am not a troll, I hate trolls actually, some people are trolling me, but then again maybe it is partially my fault. I have never been that great at getting along with groups of people when I talk about math and science stuff. Not sure why that is, but whatever, if I am an A hole, sorry, that is who I am.
If you read my numerable posts, I did say that my stats are from 10nl, 30 nl and 50 nl combined. I did not have any 100 nl games in my graph. I believe the way I play is a bit unusual, so I can appreciate that my stats might seem incredulous to many. A lot of you guys are pretty smart though. I did not realize that the way I played was so unorthodox in the sense that I am actually a very aggressive player who bluffs a lot and check raises certain draws like gut shots and of course some combo draws with high equity, but I also check raise some junk draws for balance.
My graph really does not reflect these things. I also will jam rivers when I miss my draws, or to rep a flush sometimes if I think someone has an over or top pair. As Bart Hansen says, these spots are very under bluffed. For some reason my stats do not show this, however my redline over the last two months is much better, as I am now attacking obvious bet size tells that show weakness. In the past I did not do this much.
I agree that my graph does look like a nut peddler at first glance. But I am not a nut peddler at all.
I am not at all here to try to impress anyone, but I am for truth and logic, so I will say what I know is correct.

Leak tracker says that all my stats are within the range of a solid winning player, though my c bet is only about 57, so that one is slightly outside, but says it may be OK. Would leak tracker say this if I was a nut peddler? Certainly not. And I am talking about a proper hand sample size of course.

What makes me stand out is I am actually pretty amazing at hand reading and making big folds and big calls at the right time. This is a skill where I far outplay most players. It is a rare skill, but I have it, and it is far from typical. So if people want to hate me for that, then go to hell. It is just a fact.
With all the call stations and straight forward passive fish I play, I find that low c b et stat works. But against better players it would need to be higher.
I think you are right about what you said about 100 nl. I played 100 nl and 1 2 mostly during the pandemic when I had a lot of money and the games were very soft cause of the shut down, so my ideas about those games that I used at that time were and are almost certainly wrong. And I greatly appreciate you making that astute observation, I learned something from that actually.
At this time I think I am a good poker player, but I would not be surprised if a year from now I look back and think, wow I was not as good as I thought. I am good at hand reading and player profiling, but there is so much to this deep game, and just from some of these comments I am starting to realize I still have a lot to learn, which is great.
My style of playing did work then however, but the games were very soft during covid shutdown cause there were tons of fun players. Since then when I play 1 2 and 2 5 online however I bluff a lot, and will jam pre with a range of QQ+ AK against regular games and TT+ to A Qs against looser games. Also I like to battle, but sometimes it is mostly tight regs and call stations, so how can I bluff too much. Though I am starting realize that some stations will fold on the river, so I am profiling them more.
My 10 nl rate during covid was an absurd 54 bb per 100 for like 60,000 hands if I recall correct.

Of course that was due to how many really bad players were playing online with the casinos shutdown. I was a bad player then too with a lot of leaks.
You sound like a smart player to me. You are probably better than I am. I can tell you are a very good player. I am not trying to say I am the best or anything like that. Just had so many people jump on me, but that is OK. I guess my graph does look funny, but I can play very exploitative against low stakes players. At higher stakes I am sure a very LAG style is needed to win. Thanks for your post, what little your wrote was actually very insightful and interesting.
Also keep in mind that I am in the USA. Wish I lived in someplace else though cause of all the right wing nut cases, but anyhow, our online cash games are much weaker than what you have in Europe, so keep in mind that what may work in the USA, might not work where you are from oversea.
All that being said I am %100 certain Stars Cash Games are NERFED. But of course good players can still win money, but make no mistake, they are making it 20 times harder for you to do so. The bright side is it forces us to play better to win.
Look at my chess ratings. I am a very strong player. Why would anyone think I am some fish if I get an Expert level chess rating? Just make no sense the kind of rude comments I have been getting, but that is OK, I play poker, I am used to that sort of thing from time to time.

confirmed troll

Can you please explain the following - how could it be?

your "My C / day", which you blackened, is a very short term - it's a single digit number with a comma and 2 digits after. So your max win/day is 9,99 dollar..

Some math for you:
You played 3000 hands/day with 12bb/100

12bb at 2NL is 24 cent.
24cent * 30 (3000 hands) = 720 pennies per day

7,20 dollar per day is probably exactly the number you blackened out on you graph...

Whats the TLDR?

You certainly are. Maybe one day you will move out of your parents basement. McDonalds best way for you, forget poker.

Believe what you like. I can't hold much stock in the opinions of a fish who asks if it's possible to beat 100 nl or higher without a positive redline. It was an interesting question, but shows you must play like a caveman lol
BTW what fast food restaurant do you work for? You got to be one of those poor guys.

Why would you ask a question that someone can look up on Google? What a clever guy you are lol

knowdays beating nl2 is not bad, good starting point most of the guys beat nothing ... doing burgers is better than beeing eaten alive at the tables.

still waiting for an answer

u got lichess account OP?

All true statements!

Not even close to true. I guess you hope your low IQ friends all have poor reading comprehension too. How many semesters of community college did your parents pay for? Before you flunked out, of course.