Not sure there's a read to be had. If she knows you know her stack and you've asked, it looks pretty obvious you're uncomfortable with the situation in the hand. It probably makes her completely confident her hand is good there and then.

The read is she wants you to think that she was a 1pr hand.

So, Does she have air or 2 pair or a monster draw or ...

Her range has you beat.

I place 4 black chips on 3 stacks of 20 red chips... , "All in"

After 2 seconds...

She says, "I know my hand is better than yours"

Pause of 5 seconds.

"Queens are no good"

How the heck did she read me for queens?

Damn I love that b*tch

You are being probed big time. At this stage I would neither be looking at her nor responding to her...just stare at a blank spot on the felt and breathe normally.

Bet bigger on the flop & turn. You lose sooo much value by betting under half pot. Betting bigger for value will allow you to bluff bigger and more effectively.

Checking turn is terrible - if your turn bet doesn't get called by worse it means you're playing way too passive. You should be double barreling a ton on this turn. You'll have a ton of hands in your range w/10+ outs vs top pair and you should be betting them very often. Thus, you should also be betting aggressively with queens.

I'd be inclined to call her turn c/r. If she's as good as you say, she'll be c/r a fairly balanced range I'd rahter have queens than aces in this spot b/c queens have the advantage of of having 6 outs vs sets and 12 outs vs two pairs. Shoving is terrible. You'll rarely get called by worse or fold better. My plan is to river a Q or 9 and cry if she shoves a blank river.

agree with every word

If she is going to c/r bluff on some turns I kinda prefer betting the turn.

Re: not betting the river to prevent a CRAI

(% you'll be called by a hand that you beat) * pot+riverbet + (% she'll fold) * pot - (% you'll be called by a hand that beats you) * riverbet - (% time you get CRAI and have to fold) * riverbet = EV of valuebetting river

Figure out what percentage of the time you think each will happen, and you'll know if it's better to check behind.

Going with $50 flop bet that's called, c/c turn, and a bet of 100 into 167 on the river.

5% of the time you bet, she'll call with a hand you beat. (+13.35)
5% of the time you bet, she'll call with a hand that beats you. (-5)
20% of the time she'll fold (+33.4)
70% of the time she'll CRAI (-70)

Given those percentages, EV of valuebetting $100 on the river is $-28.25

yeah and you dont want to be just picked up turn draw air and nuttish hands in your turn betting range - otherwise she will be able to c/r turn with impunity.

Are you talking about the 48 yr old chubby short black haired woman?

If it is I forget her name, but she's horrible. I played her multiple times on 10/20 at Fallsview. Her range is so big and shes a station galore. I'd make it 50 pre flop and shove flop.

I think he's talking about a young Asian girl (20's maybe early 30's) who often wears a hat like Gilligan and giggles a lot.

She's a blonde.

Pic?

Pic?

Do Not Want!

So, what happened next?

+1

When she says, "Queens are no good" I nearly **** my pants.

She says in an exasperated voice, "I know what you have too!" and she folds.

Nice hand.

Guess queens were good then. I think she was trying to get a reaction out of you to see if her read was right. Hopefully you insta mucked?

I feel like people here are ignoring the fact that a good LAG, especially one who has moved down a level or two, is going to attack this terrible betsizing with any piece of the flop, and often times air on a board with this texture. She knows her perceived range can crush yours and is betting you either A. know it too, or more easily B. will just get away cheaply. Flatting to me, isn't much of an option because there's almost nothing you ever want to see on the river with your range and she is most likely going to ship no matter what. Ship or fold, live with results.

Eh, poster above said it first but yeah, your betsizing makes you look ridic weak and makes this hand nigh impossible to play, meaning your hand is under repped, but it's really not a good board for you..

IMO the title of the thread is a good one and the mistake was a tactical one of trying to outplay a superior player post-flop by taking a hand that has pre-flop strength and under reping it postflop. A straightforward line of PFR followed by 3/4 pot sized bet would have better defined the hands and I doubt a good player is trying to bluff in that spot at low stakes where they know the majority of players are not folding overpairs. I either bet bet bet or c/c the turn. If she still calls the flop and raises the turn, I think I am beat.

Humm maybe I have a leak in my game.

Same sort of thing happened again.
Against and even better player.

2/5 Live ... a few days later.

BB Villain is a very very good player. Recently final tabled in the WSOP doubling through Phil Helmuth, sponsored Stars player. She's playing LAG and running over the table.

I've never seen her play as low as 2/5 before.
I'm here because there are some awful fish at the table.

Solid player ($1200) makes it $25 in the CO.

I flat call the $25. AKo in SB ($647).

BB Villain ($1100) makes it $125.

Solid player folds.

What do you do here?
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