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10-26-2016 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
So when there is no table in slot1, I just don't touch my mouse, it will move to slot 1 and table moves there requiring action.

yea its not a big deal, I got the idea after reading you did v2.90n with ""if the mouse is over a table in the stack, it won't trigger the 'move mouse' action. That it might be possible to do this for grid as well.
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
Bottom line, I only want mouse to move to table if table is in a grid, but the mouse has nothing currently underneath it, (another table, window ect)
It may be possible to do if the mouse isn't over another poker table. But I don't know if I can detect that the mouse isn't over another window such as a web browser. There are just too many windows to check for. Are you saying ONLY if the mouse is over an empty desktop space? I just think that your request is so so so specific that not many other people would use it.

What about trying the hotkey to "Activate most urgent table and Move Mouse"? I think that would also accomplish what you want..
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10-27-2016 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
It may be possible to do if the mouse isn't over another poker table. But I don't know if I can detect that the mouse isn't over another window such as a web browser. There are just too many windows to check for. Are you saying ONLY if the mouse is over an empty desktop space? I just think that your request is so so so specific that not many other people would use it.

What about trying the hotkey to "Activate most urgent table and Move Mouse"? I think that would also accomplish what you want..
Most important would be having "move mouse to active table" wont activate if hovering over any table. I think anyone who stack and tiles would like this because it allows them to stay over a table that needs close attention, and not have to make decisions on unimportant tables that the mouse was auto moved to. At the same time once you stacked the table, the mouse will resume and move to next active table.

Yes I was saying "only over empty desktop space" I think lots of people web browse while playing poker, I try to do homework on word documents sometimes during slow hours of the day. This isn't really a request from me though, it would be sweet if it was easy to do.

"Activate most urgent table and Move Mouse" is meh, because If I have to hit a button to move cursor I might as well just move the mouse manually. The table being moved to what SaT thinks is "most urgent" table isn't always most urgent table in a session. I don't want to be moved off an important decision just because I am timing out on another table to hit the 'fold' button ect."

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10-27-2016 , 03:59 PM
I have another question tho, I use "turn on/off SaT" hotkey, whenever I turn SaT back on, all my grid slots fill, even though tables aren't ready for action, so then I have to restack them. Can you fix that please?, its pretty annoying
(sorry for all the requests and thank you, I'm about to renew my yearly subscription so I thought I'ld throw them out there!
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10-27-2016 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
Most important would be having "move mouse to active table" wont activate if hovering over any table. I think anyone who stack and tiles would like this because it allows them to stay over a table that needs close attention, and not have to make decisions on unimportant tables that the mouse was auto moved to.
this doesn't make any sense to me. obviously if the mouse moves to a table, then that would mean you need/want to act on it. so when you say "not have to make decisions on tables that the mouse was auto moved to" defeats the whole purpose of moving the mouse in the first place

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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
I have another question tho, I use "turn on/off SaT" hotkey, whenever I turn SaT back on, all my grid slots fill, even though tables aren't ready for action, so then I have to restack them. Can you fix that please?, its pretty annoying
(sorry for all the requests and thank you, I'm about to renew my yearly subscription so I thought I'ld throw them out there!
is your 'New Tables' setting = 'grid' ? then of course tables would fill up the grid. its the same as if you had already had those tables opened and only then opened up SaT and pressed Start. perhaps you want New Tables in your stack?

or more importantly, why are you "start/stopping SaT" mid session? that may lead to some more ideas
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10-27-2016 , 04:15 PM
I took your suggestion to fix my problem of 6 table tile with #4 not showing up, etc. and it worked.

But I switched on "move mouse to active table" and the mouse never moves no matter where it is.

Maybe this feature doesn't work for 6 tiled tables with no stack?
Also I just downloaded the new version and have not tried it yet, so I don't know if that will fix it.
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10-27-2016 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
this doesn't make any sense to me. obviously if the mouse moves to a table, then that would mean you need/want to act on it. so when you say "not have to make decisions on tables that the mouse was auto moved to" defeats the whole purpose of moving the mouse in the first place



is your 'New Tables' setting = 'grid' ? then of course tables would fill up the grid. its the same as if you had already had those tables opened and only then opened up SaT and pressed Start. perhaps you want New Tables in your stack?

or more importantly, why are you "start/stopping SaT" mid session? that may lead to some more ideas
The only thing I want the "move mouse to active table" feature to do is move the mouse to a table when I'm not hovering over a table. I don't want mouse to move to a table if I am hovering over a table. And I want to be able to manually move my mouse to whatever slot I want without SaT stealing the mouse to the newest active table/ or most urgent table. If that makes sense lol.

So I am start/stopping SaT because some of my hotkeys I need to use in another application or window and wont work. i.e. "q" hot key and I want to type the letter "q" in my notes.
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10-27-2016 , 04:25 PM
Yes I have 'New Tables' setting = 'grid', I don't want it ='stack' because I am frequently opening tables from the client to table select. Or if I open a new table from client to seat select, it will get lost in stack wont it? thanks
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10-27-2016 , 04:29 PM
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I took your suggestion to fix my problem of 6 table tile with #4 not showing up, etc. and it worked.

But I switched on "move mouse to active table" and the mouse never moves no matter where it is.

Maybe this feature doesn't work for 6 tiled tables with no stack?
Also I just downloaded the new version and have not tried it yet, so I don't know if that will fix it.
it should work fine when using it only Tiled and no stack. i just tested it and it looked like it was working. are you sure that SaT is correctly detecting when each table requires action? run this Test to see:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...op-incorrectly

i did notice one situation where, if the table is already active and has focus and you move your mouse elsewhere, that when that table requires action again, if the table is still focused in the foreground, then the mouse won't move back. thats a bug i think i need to fix
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10-27-2016 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
The only thing I want the "move mouse to active table" feature to do is move the mouse to a table when I'm not hovering over a table. I don't want mouse to move to a table if I am hovering over a table. And I want to be able to manually move my mouse to whatever slot I want without SaT stealing the mouse to the newest active table/ or most urgent table. If that makes sense lol.
not really lol. i will think about it more and see if i can figure it out

i guess you're wanting a whole new feature. so we really shouldn't be talking about it as if its "move mouse to active table" because thats not what you want

i guess you want "move mouse to a table requiring action only if the mouse isn't already over another table"

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So I am start/stopping SaT because some of my hotkeys I need to use in another application or window and wont work. i.e. "q" hot key and I want to type the letter "q" in my notes.
you should use the "Disable hotkeys" hotkey toggle instead of "Start/stop"
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10-27-2016 , 04:31 PM
BetOnline will "activate table on my turn" even when the UI option is turned off. The problem with this is they programmed "enter" key to the middle button I believe.

You got any ideas how to circumvent this with SaT? I tried assigning "enter" as a hotkey, SaT hotkey works, but doesn't dedicate it, BOL still takes it too. Maybe your advanced option "focus on betbox when possible" will do this???
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10-27-2016 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
BetOnline will "activate table on my turn" even when the UI option is turned off. The problem with this is they programmed "enter" key to the middle button I believe.

You got any ideas how to circumvent this with SaT? I tried assigning "enter" as a hotkey, SaT hotkey works, but doesn't dedicate it, BOL still takes it too. Maybe your advanced option "focus on betbox when possible" will do this???
SaT cannot override this. if its a bug in BetOnline then you need to report it to them and get them to fix it. pretty much any site that doesn't have a setting to turn this off, then SaT will run into focus stealing issues

i don't understand what you mean with the middlebutton/enter key though
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10-27-2016 , 05:26 PM
Well when I hit "enter" key the table that is active is always minraising, so I think the enter key is assigned to coordinates that are wherever 'minraise' button is when it becomes visible, which I think is the "middle" or usual "call" button
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10-27-2016 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
Well when I hit "enter" key the table that is active is always minraising, so I think the enter key is assigned to coordinates that are wherever 'minraise' button is when it becomes visible, which I think is the "middle" or usual "call" button
what does betbox say? is the betbox a minraise amount? maybe the Enter key is simply sending the betbox as a raise as you would expect as if the betbox had focus

what happens if SaT is turned off and you press Enter on the BOL table when the betbox doesn't have focus?
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10-27-2016 , 06:02 PM
Betbox is says the minraise amount.

I turned SaT off, betbox still defaults to minraise amount, but doesn't highlight it
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10-27-2016 , 06:05 PM
So the enter key doesn't do anything till I click on the actual table
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10-27-2016 , 06:09 PM
My bad, I guess it is SaT is focusing the betbox, but BOL still assigns enter key to the normal "raise to" button

So I guess the revised question is how to stop BOL from using the enter key
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10-27-2016 , 08:14 PM
Would "table under mouse mode" and SaT stack and tile still work with something like this AHK script in post #544. The guy says it prevents misclicks (like my 'enter' problem) because keystrokes are redirected to WHERE you are working, not the popped table.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...90/index7.html
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10-27-2016 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
My bad, I guess it is SaT is focusing the betbox, but BOL still assigns enter key to the normal "raise to" button

So I guess the revised question is how to stop BOL from using the enter key
if SaT is turned off, and the BOL betbox is NOT highlighted, then what happens when you press Enter on the table?

if nothing happens, then the problem is simply SaT focusing the betbox. so then just turn that setting off?

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Would "table under mouse mode" and SaT stack and tile still work with something like this AHK script in post #544. The guy says it prevents misclicks (like my 'enter' problem) because keystrokes are redirected to WHERE you are working, not the popped table.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...90/index7.html
i dont know because i dont know what you trying to do

looking at the script, it simply redirects the keystrokes to the window underneath the mouse. actually, first it checks for the window under the mouse, and then activates that window, and then sends the keystroke. it does exactly what the guy says: allows you to take notes or type in other windows where your mouse is, and if another poker table had popped up to steal focus, then the keystrokes will cause the window under the mouse to be activated first before the keystrokes are sent

the script is a good work around for the problem he describes, but the script will fail if the table pops up where your mouse is

i still dont understand your Enter key problem. what are you trying to do? and what is failing?
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10-27-2016 , 09:05 PM
1) I am trying to work on other projects on other windows on one monitor while grinding with SaT and BOL on 2 other monitors.

2)Enter key problem. Ex. I will hit enter on a spreadsheet I'm working on, and if table pops into grid when I hit enter, the enter key goes to the table and minraises... Can you see how much money this is costing me?
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10-27-2016 , 09:11 PM
The other frequent problem I have, is I will be typing a paper, and a table will pop into grid and steal my mouse cursor. If I'm playing 12 tables, I have to keep moving the mouse back to my word document. I can barely type a few words at a time.

its driving me bat****.

I use "activate table under mouse" too, because of the overlap I have in the grid, it saves me from actually clicking on the table to activate it, and prevents another table from stealing back focus (the BOL pop up bug, and yes I have emailed support)

And then I wanted to combo those with "move mouse to table " that could only be activated if my cursor had nothing behind it. giving me mouse control. I.e. I stop typing my document, then simply stall my cursor somewhere on my blank monitor and when table pops into grid on that monitor the mouse will go to it. And it will not take the mouse away to the next table until there is nothing beneath again.

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10-27-2016 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
1) I am trying to work on other projects on other windows on one monitor while grinding with SaT and BOL on 2 other monitors.

2)Enter key problem. Ex. I will hit enter on a spreadsheet I'm working on, and if table pops into grid when I hit enter, the enter key goes to the table and minraises... Can you see how much money this is costing me?
ahhhh ok. that clears it up. have you tried turning off SaT's "focus betbox" option? does that fix it?

otherwise, you could try that script you linked, it should work

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The other frequent problem I have, is I will be typing a paper, and a table will pop into grid and steal my mouse cursor. If I'm playing 12 tables, I have to keep moving the mouse back to my word document. I can barely type a few words at a time.

its driving me bat****.

This is another reason I wanted to see if "move mouse to table only activated if my cursor had nothing behind it. I.e. I stop typing my document, then simply stall my cursor somewhere on my blank monitor and when table pops into grid the mouse will go to it, but not take the mouse away to the next table until there is nothing beneath again.
so don't use "move mouse to active table" then
its obviously not what you want

i mean your problem is so specific. you're not only wanting to multitable poker more efficiently. you're ALSO wanting to multi-task and type papers and spreadsheets at the same time as playing 12 tables. i'm not sure that SaT is designed for that goal in mind

i dont know how you plan on playing 12 tables and typing a paper. whether or not you have the 'move mouse' feature or not, you still won't be able to type more than a few words at a time

i understand moving your mouse across 3 monitors is a real pain. sounds like maybe you just need a quick script or something to move the mouse to each monitor for you with the press of a hotkey or something
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10-27-2016 , 10:27 PM
Yea, thanks for your time and response. I understand the other stuff I have goin on isn't related to SaT's intended design.

So for when I am purely playing poker and nothing else: in the new update you have 'Move Mouse to Active Table' won't move mouse if hovering over stack. Can you make SaT do the same thing when hovering over any table? (If I am hovering over table in my grid, I want mouse to stay there until I send that table to the stack. So soon as I stack that table, the mouse should move to the next active table in the grid)

This would allow me to drag my mouse over which table I see I want to act on first or click a HUD pop up for a few seconds, without getting the mouse hijacked to the next table that needs action.
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10-27-2016 , 10:39 PM
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Yea, thanks for your time and response. I understand the other stuff I have goin on isn't related to SaT's intended design.

So for when I am purely playing poker and nothing else: in the new update you have 'Move Mouse to Active Table' won't move mouse if hovering over stack. Can you make SaT do the same thing when hovering over any table? (If I am hovering over table in my grid, I want mouse to stay there until I send that table to the stack. So soon as I stack that table, the mouse should move to the next active table in the grid)

This would allow me to drag my mouse over which table I see I want to act on first or click a HUD pop up for a few seconds, without getting the mouse hijacked to the next table that needs action.
and then if you dont stack the table, but instead just call or raise, then the table will still be there and your mouse will still be over it.

in that case nothing should happen? the mouse is still over a table.

do you realize there are other hotkeys that might accomplish what you want?

"Move mouse to Next/Previous slot"
"Activate next/previous slot"
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10-28-2016 , 10:52 AM
the hotkey bet x bb on ignition is not working for me. No matter what number i enter (100, 1000), it will bet 10 bb.
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