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10-20-2016 , 12:38 AM
Hi, I have problem with some playroom, any level 200-400-600... have a different name so when I put different names to detect the table only work if I put a single name, How I solve this, Thxs
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10-20-2016 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Thomca
Hi, I have problem with some playroom, any level 200-400-600... have a different name so when I put different names to detect the table only work if I put a single name, How I solve this, Thxs
what room?
what is the table_class?
does the lobby use the same class name?
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10-20-2016 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
what room?
what is the table_class?
does the lobby use the same class name?


UnityHostWndClass

The program work ok and detect one level but not different levels

Last edited by Thomca; 10-20-2016 at 01:26 AM.
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10-20-2016 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Thomca
pokamania

VMwareUnityHostWndClass
ehhh

are you on Mac OSX and using VMWare? because i don't think its gonna work correctly like that. you'd probably need to run a full VM session where you have a window of the full Windows OS and then run both SaT and your poker site within it. then you'll probably get a different table_class
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10-20-2016 , 04:34 PM
I am trying to set up a simple 6 table set up of tiled tables the exact size and location I want that will not move around.

I have 2 monitor set up if it matters but all 6 tables will be on 1 monitor.
I create the table size I want, and then go to the settings and pick 6 slots and then hit visualize grid but only 4 numbered tables come up. 1 to 4, if i hover over task bar I see there is a table 5 and table 6 that don't have the large black number on the table like 1-4 and also when i click them they don't show up.

What is going on?

Also how do I delete some layouts that I created?
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10-20-2016 , 04:55 PM
Just tried to set up a new stack and tile size and have 9 slots and slot 4 and 5 don't come up to let me set their locations.
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10-20-2016 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
I am trying to set up a simple 6 table set up of tiled tables the exact size and location I want that will not move around.

I have 2 monitor set up if it matters but all 6 tables will be on 1 monitor.
I create the table size I want, and then go to the settings and pick 6 slots and then hit visualize grid but only 4 numbered tables come up. 1 to 4, if i hover over task bar I see there is a table 5 and table 6 that don't have the large black number on the table like 1-4 and also when i click them they don't show up.

What is going on?
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Just tried to set up a new stack and tile size and have 9 slots and slot 4 and 5 don't come up to let me set their locations.
My guess is that your dual monitor setup is just confusing Windows in regards to the coordinate locations. Maybe if you switch monitors regularly, or change their positions, then SaT could be trying to place the coordinates of the slots in places where your monitors don't exist.

Usually for these problems, I simply suggest using the - button to remove slots down to the # of visible ones (so in your 6 slot layout, remove down to 4; for your 9 slot remove down to 3), and then just use the + button to add the slots back. And then VisualizeGrid again, and the newly added slots should be in a central-ish location that you can move.

If that fails for some reason, you could always simply edit the coordinates directly within your layout file. Just click File->Current Layout, and youll see the "slot1x" and "slot1y" variables for each slot. For the slots that you can't see, simply change their coordinates to match a slot that you can see. Then save the file, and close and reopen SaT. Then Visualize Grid again, and the slots should overlap and you should be able to drag where you want


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Also how do I delete some layouts that I created?
All Layouts are simply files in this directory:

C:\Program Files (x86)\StackAndTile\Layouts\

so you can simply delete the files
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10-23-2016 , 06:47 AM
is it possible to make 888 tables the same size as the smallest stars tables? trying to make the table size 500x371 but the 888 tables will not go that small

thanks
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10-23-2016 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rodgethat
is it possible to make 888 tables the same size as the smallest stars tables? trying to make the table size 500x371 but the 888 tables will not go that small

thanks
if the 888 client doesnt allow the tables that small, then theres nothing that SaT can do. you can simply try it without SaT at all. just open up one stars table and one 888, and use your mouse and try to resize them and see how low they go
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10-23-2016 , 02:34 PM
Hello!

I haven't tried SaT yet since I don't know if it offers what I'm looking for. I'm usually playing 12+ tables. Can your software assist with the following?

Session management
When I register for a tournament (or if I registered earlier and now it starts) the tournament lobby always pops up. Some sites also have dialoges like "You are registered", "moved to a new table" and similar which I have to click/close. I find those extremely annoying, because they also pops up when busting a tournament, or for some sites even when just being moved to a new table. When I'm playing on 5 different sites it can become really messy while at the same time being in 2 or 3 hands. Is it possible to auto-close all such popups, or use hot keys to quickly make it all disappear? As I understand it, this is separate to the actual table stacking/grid solution. Do I need separate software for this? I do however be able to manually open a tournament lobby and close it manually as well, at any time.

Table sizes and stacks
The default table size differs from site to site - is it possible to maintain the default size for tables (at least when they have been moved to an active slot?). I don't want any resizing of tables since it messes up my HUD.
Is it possible to have two stacks only, so that the idle stack is to the left, and tables requiring action is moved to (a stack) to the right? So that in total there are 2 slots and not 3+.

Allowed?
What does the major sites say about this software? I see TT is allowed on stars.eu, but what aobut SaT? It seems it was on the allowed list in July 2015 but isn't any longer..? And what about other sites, any players reported having issues?

Any response appreciated
Thank you,
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10-23-2016 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TronaldDump
Hello!

I haven't tried SaT yet since I don't know if it offers what I'm looking for. I'm usually playing 12+ tables. Can your software assist with the following?

Session management
When I register for a tournament (or if I registered earlier and now it starts) the tournament lobby always pops up. Some sites also have dialoges like "You are registered", "moved to a new table" and similar which I have to click/close. I find those extremely annoying, because they also pops up when busting a tournament, or for some sites even when just being moved to a new table. When I'm playing on 5 different sites it can become really messy while at the same time being in 2 or 3 hands. Is it possible to auto-close all such popups, or use hot keys to quickly make it all disappear? As I understand it, this is separate to the actual table stacking/grid solution. Do I need separate software for this? I do however be able to manually open a tournament lobby and close it manually as well, at any time.
yeah unfortunately SaT doesn't handle these things. as you mention, they are separate from the stacking/grid solution. SaT was originally designed to be solely a table manager. closing popups like these are somewhat of a convenience feature that was never really intended. that said, i'm not opposed to adding features like these, but i'm not sure what the true demand is. but unfortunately these features do not exist currently

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Table sizes and stacks
The default table size differs from site to site - is it possible to maintain the default size for tables (at least when they have been moved to an active slot?). I don't want any resizing of tables since it messes up my HUD.
hrmmm. not exactly. SaT defines a grid slot size, and then tries to fit other sites into the same dimensions. but, if other sites don't allow the same proportions, then SaT cannot fit them exactly, and you will end up with tables of slightly different proportions. is your HUD extremely precise that even a minor size change would affect things? if not, then this shouldn't be an issue for you

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Is it possible to have two stacks only, so that the idle stack is to the left, and tables requiring action is moved to (a stack) to the right? So that in total there are 2 slots and not 3+.
right now SaT only allows one main stack. all other grid slots can only contain one table. this feature has been requested a few times previously, and is likely to be added at some point. but currently you cannot do that either

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Allowed?
What does the major sites say about this software? I see TT is allowed on stars.eu, but what aobut SaT? It seems it was on the allowed list in July 2015 but isn't any longer..? And what about other sites, any players reported having issues?
i'm very surprised to see that StackAndTile isn't on the PokerStars Allowed Software list. i'm fairly certain that it used to be on there. i remember emailing them when i first released the software and having this discussion. it must be a mistake. i will email them to get an answer.

but, there has never been any report from any user or any site about this software violating any rules. SaT doesn't do any automation at all of game play. i would think that TT would be more likely to be prohibited than SaT if i had to guess, since they do some betting stuff that SaT doesn't.

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Any response appreciated
Thank you,
you're obviously an advanced user, and i'm sorry that you've pretty much bumped up to some of the limitations of SaT.
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10-24-2016 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
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Originally Posted by TronaldDump
Allowed?
What does the major sites say about this software? I see TT is allowed on stars.eu, but what aobut SaT? It seems it was on the allowed list in July 2015 but isn't any longer..? And what about other sites, any players reported having issues?
i'm very surprised to see that StackAndTile isn't on the PokerStars Allowed Software list. i'm fairly certain that it used to be on there. i remember emailing them when i first released the software and having this discussion. it must be a mistake. i will email them to get an answer.

but, there has never been any report from any user or any site about this software violating any rules. SaT doesn't do any automation at all of game play. i would think that TT would be more likely to be prohibited than SaT if i had to guess, since they do some betting stuff that SaT doesn't.
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Hello,

Thank you for your email.

A mistake does appear to have been made. I will look into this and ensure that it is fixed. Unfortunately, this may take several weeks. We apologise for any inconvenience.

Regards,
Scott
PokerStars Game Integrity
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10-24-2016 , 05:29 PM
Thanks for the answers, cleared most of the unclear points I was thinking about.
Two more specific questions:
1. What happens when there are no more grid slots available? E.g. 5 tables requiring action but only 4 slots?
2. Isn't there a risk something goes wrong and a table times out somewhere in the stack. It will stay there until eventually blinded out (say, at the bottom of the stack)?
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10-24-2016 , 06:16 PM
if i want to upgrade up small stack to full version in the middle of the month. Do I pay the difference or the full price?
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10-24-2016 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TronaldDump
1. What happens when there are no more grid slots available? E.g. 5 tables requiring action but only 4 slots?
well, assuming 1 stack slot, and slots 2-4 as grid slots, then the first 3 tables requiring action would move to slots 2-4, and then as the next 2 tables required action, they would pop to the top of the stack so you can see them

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2. Isn't there a risk something goes wrong and a table times out somewhere in the stack. It will stay there until eventually blinded out (say, at the bottom of the stack)?
i would never say never that there is absolutely no risk, because bugs are always possible. but the software has been available for over 5 years, and many of these types of bugs have been ironed out. i have had multiple players using the software playing 40+ tables without issues. here's one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKm3DbRHddM

i would say that a misconfiguration is more likely to result in an error. definitely make sure this Test passes:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...op-incorrectly

futher, SaT has an "Old Tables" feature, which means that, if for some reason SaT sees that the table doesn't require action in X minutes (5 mins by default), then the table moves out of the stack and into the grid. this could happen if you somehow got sitting out by mistake. then after 5 mins this feature would trigger, bringing the table to your attention so you can see whats up. you could lower this down to 1 minute and then i would think you would barely miss any hands, maybe 1 hand at most. but at 1 minute you may run into false positives if you've folded, and then other people are stalling or for whatever reason are taking a long time during a hand.
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10-24-2016 , 11:10 PM
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if i want to upgrade up small stack to full version in the middle of the month. Do I pay the difference or the full price?
just sign up for a Full subscription on the website, youll get a new license code. then email me and i'll cancel the Small Stakes subscription and refund you the difference for the last month
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10-25-2016 , 09:36 PM
Is there a hot key that will move the mouse cursor to the first slot when the table pops in it? I don't want the mouse to go to table every time tho
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10-25-2016 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
Is there a hot key that will move the mouse cursor to the first slot when the table pops in it? I don't want the mouse to go to table every time tho
If I understand you correctly, no, theres no way to currently do that.

Can you explain why you want this?
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10-25-2016 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
alright try this:

v2.90n:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/...Setup-290n.exe

- if the mouse is over a table in the stack, it won't trigger the 'move mouse' action

test it and let me know if you find any quirks
I was curious about this "move mouse to active table" I never use it because I didn't to be forced to the table that needed the most recent action. For example. I have AA on one table, but a new table pops into grid and needs new action would steal the cursor. and on and on it would go, not allowing me to dictate which table I want to be under, and maybe tank for a few seconds.


I use table under mouse with stackandtile format, so I can hover over anywhere on the table and use my hotkeys. What would be nice is to keep this feature, and move mouse to active table, but still allow me to manually move the mouse to a table and it stay there since its hovering to allow me to focus on that particular table, after I hotkey stack it, then move cursor resumes Thoughts? ( I hope I explained this well) lol
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10-25-2016 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
If I understand you correctly, no, theres no way to currently do that.

Can you explain why you want this?
Well I was just trying to save from having to manually drag my mouse from one monitor to another, ex, I fold+stacked tables 1-5 but stayed in my 6 location for the hand, then fold+stacked 6, but a new hand actions pops table into slot 1 again
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10-25-2016 , 10:41 PM
Here is a better way to explain I think.... I want mouse to move to active table, but not steal the mouse if I am hovering over another table or window for that matter.

I have a little overlap between slots, so this would allow me to drag my cursor back to a table and it stay there until I stack it.
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10-25-2016 , 10:47 PM
So... "if the mouse is over a table in the stack OR in GRID, it won't trigger the 'move mouse' action

It only triggers "move mouse" action if mouse is over nothing (blank desktop (wallpaper))
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10-25-2016 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
Well I was just trying to save from having to manually drag my mouse from one monitor to another, ex, I fold+stacked tables 1-5 but stayed in my 6 location for the hand, then fold+stacked 6, but a new hand actions pops table into slot 1 again
But in many cases, you'll fold+stack slot 6, and then there will be no other table requiring action in slot 1.

So it sounds like you only have specific instances where you want to move the mouse.

I think you could use a hotkey to "Toggle Move mouse to active table" and then you can turn it on and off as you want. So by default, you leave it as it is, which is Off, where it doesn't move the mouse at all.

But then if you find yourself wanting to move the mouse, you can just toggle it on real quick
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10-26-2016 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
But in many cases, you'll fold+stack slot 6, and then there will be no other table requiring action in slot 1.

So it sounds like you only have specific instances where you want to move the mouse.

I think you could use a hotkey to "Toggle Move mouse to active table" and then you can turn it on and off as you want. So by default, you leave it as it is, which is Off, where it doesn't move the mouse at all.

But then if you find yourself wanting to move the mouse, you can just toggle it on real quick
So when there is no table in slot1, I just don't touch my mouse, it will move to slot 1 and table moves there requiring action.

yea its not a big deal, I got the idea after reading you did v2.90n with ""if the mouse is over a table in the stack, it won't trigger the 'move mouse' action. That it might be possible to do this for grid as well.
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10-26-2016 , 06:23 PM
Bottom line, I only want mouse to move to table if table is in a grid, but the mouse has nothing currently underneath it, (another table, window ect)
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