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09-03-2016 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Theres no way to 'measure' performance that I can think of. If you are sending your hotkeys to the table under the mouse, then it sounds like the computer is just so slow that its not registering the hotkey when you initially press it. Instead, its lagging and then detecting the next table under your mouse after you've moved it. Thats not good

What is the setup of this older pc? What version of Windows? What kind of hardware? What scan mode have you chosen in SaT? Are you running any other software that you think could be slowing things down?
Intel core2 Duo E4600 @2,4GHz
6 GB RAM
Win 7 64 bit

no other software is slow down, I even close any browser tab or any other useless software for the session. Probably it is just the processor, since I'm not encounter any trouble with the newest computer
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09-03-2016 , 03:10 PM
whats the difference between "keep all tables in grid", and "refill grid"?
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09-03-2016 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
Intel core2 Duo E4600 @2,4GHz
6 GB RAM
Win 7 64 bit

no other software is slow down, I even close any browser tab or any other useless software for the session. Probably it is just the processor, since I'm not encounter any trouble with the newest computer
What scan mode in SaT? Are you running a Tracker+HUD? If so, do you still get the lag with the HUD turned off?
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09-03-2016 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
whats the difference between "keep all tables in grid", and "refill grid"?
Keep All Tables in Grid - tables get 'locked' into the grid and will never go back to the stack, ignoring any "Stack" commands or Fold button mouseclicks. To move a talbe back to the stack, you'd need to toggle "Keep table in grid" off.

Refill Grid - simply moves tables up in gridslot order, in cases where there are gaps. So if your stack is slot1, and slots 2-8 are grid slots, suppose you have 5 tables in slots 2-6 and then you Fold+Stack the table in slot 3. Now you only have 4 grid tables in slots 2,4,5,6, and you have a gap with no table in slot 3. Pressing this hotkey shifts the tables up to fill this gap.
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09-03-2016 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
What scan mode in SaT? Are you running a Tracker+HUD? If so, do you still get the lag with the HUD turned off?
DWM

and yes I'm using PT4 HUD

I'm going to update you the next week, since from tomorrow I'll use the newest pc
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09-03-2016 , 08:40 PM
Ok
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09-03-2016 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Keep All Tables in Grid - tables get 'locked' into the grid and will never go back to the stack, ignoring any "Stack" commands or Fold button mouseclicks. To move a talbe back to the stack, you'd need to toggle "Keep table in grid" off.

Refill Grid - simply moves tables up in gridslot order, in cases where there are gaps. So if your stack is slot1, and slots 2-8 are grid slots, suppose you have 5 tables in slots 2-6 and then you Fold+Stack the table in slot 3. Now you only have 4 grid tables in slots 2,4,5,6, and you have a gap with no table in slot 3. Pressing this hotkey shifts the tables up to fill this gap.
Sorry I'= meant Tile all tables and Refill difference?

re-fill is sweet since if allows not to move your mouse and brings table to slot you just stacked from
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09-03-2016 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
Sorry I'= meant Tile all tables and Refill difference?

re-fill is sweet since if allows not to move your mouse and brings table to slot you just stacked from
Tile All Tables - will just move all tables in the stack to the next open grid slot. Existing grid tables will stay put

Refill Grid Tables - will take the last table in grid and move that table to the slot that was empty and caused the gap. So in the last example, table in slot6 would move to the empty slot3. No stack tables are touched.

Did you try the hotkeys? Are you seeing something different?
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09-03-2016 , 11:15 PM
I just notice that tile all will place tables randomly and fill all slots with the exception it will always leave one table in the stack regardless if there are open slots.

I have a 4 slot grid and another slot on another monitor for stacking. like below

slot2 slot1

slot4 slot3


Re-fill will do 2 things: if I hover over slot one and stack+tile, then hit refill, it will move the last occupied #slot to slot1. So I don't have to move my mouse as much now it just shifts tables there.

However, what sucks is if there is a table I want to pay attention to, if I want to use keep table in grill hot key , then send it to my 3rd monitor slot (w/another hotkey) the problem is when I use the refill again it moves that specific back to slot1 too
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09-03-2016 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
I just notice that tile all will place tables randomly and fill all slots with the exception it will always leave one table in the stack regardless if there are open slots.
Its not random, the tables will fill the slots in the order that they are available. I guess its random the order that they are pulled out of the stack. But actually I think it may be the order that they were originally opened.

One table stays in the stack because usually people want a full screen worth of tables when they "Tile All". Its weird for you because your stackslot is on a different monitor. But you can turn that off using the "stack_one_when_tileall" extra advanced option:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...vanced-options


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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
However, what sucks is if there is a table I want to pay attention to, if I want to use keep table in grill hot key , then send it to my 3rd monitor slot (w/another hotkey) the problem is when I use the refill again it moves that specific back to slot1 too
This is a bug.

Also, you should never have been able to move it to your 3rd monitor in the first place (you should first toggle the "keep table in grid" off, then move it to the 3rd monitor, then toggle it back on). Tables that are 'kept' in grid should be locked and unable to move

Please download this new test version v2.90f and test this again and let me know if its fixed:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/...Setup-290f.exe

Last edited by greg nice; 09-04-2016 at 12:09 AM.
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09-04-2016 , 02:54 AM
Yea its fixed now. Thanks
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09-04-2016 , 06:00 AM
Hi there, I'm looking for a way to achieve a setup where I have one main stack with all the tables I'm currently playing, as well as tables for observation at a smaller size. Something like this:
https://gyazo.com/043027f3749af8efecad4d0f11534951

Apologies if there is a simple solution already, I certainly haven't read the entire thread.

Thanks in advance for your help!
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09-04-2016 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Unjammed
Hi there, I'm looking for a way to achieve a setup where I have one main stack with all the tables I'm currently playing, as well as tables for observation at a smaller size. Something like this:
https://gyazo.com/043027f3749af8efecad4d0f11534951

Apologies if there is a simple solution already, I certainly haven't read the entire thread.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Unfortunately in SaT all slots must be the same size, so this wouldn't be possible. But what do you mean by 'tables for observation'? Are you not playing those smaller tables?
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09-04-2016 , 07:23 PM
the first time after restarting v.2.90f,(I don't think your file had anything to do with this) HM2 couldn't connect to postgres, so I went thru their steps, ended up having to download new postgres version and create a new database.

Anyways, I also updated Windows 10. Now, I'm having a problem with SaT. The client is lagging, and/or the hotkeys aren't always working. i.e. stack & tile, sometimes tables pop back into grid without folding. This is on Chico Network. Can you help?
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09-04-2016 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
the first time after restarting v.2.90f,(I don't think your file had anything to do with this) HM2 couldn't connect to postgres, so I went thru their steps, ended up having to download new postgres version and create a new database.

Anyways, I also updated Windows 10. Now, I'm having a problem with SaT. The client is lagging, and/or the hotkeys aren't always working. i.e. stack & tile, sometimes tables pop back into grid without folding. This is on Chico Network. Can you help?
I can't help without more information. Everything is very vague. What do you mean "the client is lagging"? What hotkeys work and which don't, and at what specific times? And do you mean "tables pop back into the STACK without folding"? I don't understand your problem.

Also, do the same Test as always and see what the results are, and try to go through the recommended solutions:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...op-incorrectly

And make sure you have the correct video settings in Chico.

Also, Test with HM2 turned off and see if everything works.
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09-04-2016 , 08:23 PM
Ok I'm testing with just client open. Sorry, for the vague response. Here is what happens. I use hotkey fold+stack, and the table goes into stack and pops back into grid slot without folding, the notification "Table moved to grid Action required"

So far I have tried removing and re-adding site, video settings are correct.
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09-04-2016 , 08:25 PM
Even when I put the cursor over the Fold button, and click it it pops back into grid with the action reuired notification. SO I cant even fold

The same is happening for the call+stack hotkey
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09-04-2016 , 08:41 PM
Hrmm very strange.
What keys are you using for both of those hotkeys?
Can you test on another site and let me know if you see the same problem?
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09-05-2016 , 03:07 AM
This problem is fixed. It had nothing to do with SaT, It was a graphics display adapter causing it. Thanks for all your help you are the best customer service I have ever experienced.

Cheers
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09-07-2016 , 11:10 PM
Playing with 4k monitor is making SaT very unhappy. Currently using it with 2 2560x1080s in portrait. SaT worked fine on these monitors previously so made one of them main and switched back to landscape but same problem


Bigger issue though is i did manage to set up a new layout to properly resize tables. It grabbed the size and layout looked good, but when i started SaT it didnt find any tables.
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09-08-2016 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by H0NEY BADGER
Playing with 4k monitor is making SaT very unhappy. Currently using it with 2 2560x1080s in portrait. SaT worked fine on these monitors previously so made one of them main and switched back to landscape but same problem
https://i.gyazo.com/6902e4f00a7eaba3...b6e7b6a2b0.png
It looks like you're on win8, but if its specifically win8.1, then you can try using this fix:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/windows-81-fix

its meant to fix issues with pokersites not scanning correctly, but perhaps if you do that and then change the scaling to a higher %, it will make the SaT window (as well as all other windows/icons) look larger. it may not be what you want.

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Originally Posted by H0NEY BADGER
Bigger issue though is i did manage to set up a new layout to properly resize tables. It grabbed the size and layout looked good, but when i started SaT it didnt find any tables.
the monitor or resolution size should have no effect on whether or not SaT recognizes tables. are you sure you were running SaT as admin? did you Include the sites into the new layout? if so, what sites did it fail on?
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09-08-2016 , 02:24 PM
Ended up being simpler fix. Silly mistake on my part, display was set to change size of all items to larger. changed that and everything is fine. Issue 2 was me not realizing had to set up sites again with new layout since couldnt actually see under "playing on poker sites:" due to distortion.
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09-08-2016 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by H0NEY BADGER
Ended up being simpler fix. Silly mistake on my part, display was set to change size of all items to larger. changed that and everything is fine. Issue 2 was me not realizing had to set up sites again with new layout since couldnt actually see under "playing on poker sites:" due to distortion.
ahh yep great, glad you got it worked out
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09-10-2016 , 01:13 PM
hello,

Im new to SAT so I have a few questions

Im trying to get started on the playmoney tables, and every time I click on a table to seat me in the lobby, the lobby will minimize. That means I have to manually open it again to seat me on another table every time, very annoying, how can I prevent that from happening?
edit: also happens when I register for a tournament

next up..

lets say, for my set up I want to have all my tables pop up in one big stack, and simply play like that. The only extra option I really want is the ''set table aside'' option: to move a table out of this stack for a few seconds to see a showdown for example by pressing a hotkey, and then afterwards I would like to press the same hotkey to move the table back in to my original stack.
How should my Grid look like to make this happen?
https://gyazo.com/4673c25fa0e86a15237a4c873cef7d2b

and which hotkey do I need to add? theres a few that ive tried but they don't do the trick: move table to next slot, move to slot 2, etc, but thats probably because I don't know what Im doing with this grid..

Last edited by Haarlem91; 09-10-2016 at 01:38 PM.
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09-10-2016 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Haarlem91
hello,

Im new to SAT so I have a few questions

Im trying to get started on the playmoney tables, and every time I click on a table to seat me in the lobby, the lobby will minimize. That means I have to manually open it again to seat me on another table every time, very annoying, how can I prevent that from happening?
edit: also happens when I register for a tournament
Don't most poker sites do that automatically? This doesn't really seem like a SaT problem. Does the problem still happen with SaT turned off? You may want to check within the pokersite settings themselves and see if there is an option to prevent that. I think PokerStars has that option, not sure about other sites
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