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05-26-2010 , 08:15 AM
My list of best dramas:

Note: Have not seen: Deadwood, Six Feet Under, The West Wing, The Sheild.

1) The Wire
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2-4) Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men (Def enjoy them BB > MM > Sopranos but I feel artistically that might be the reverse order so I leave them in a group for now.)
5) Lost (was at 2 for me until final season)
6) Dexter (subject to change)
7) Rome
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8) Damages
9-10) 24 and True Blood (Tie, True Blood could easily move up or down in future)
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05-26-2010 , 08:40 AM
I love lists!

1. Sopranos
2. Mad Men
3. Six Feet Under
4. Breaking Bad
5. The Wire
6. Lost
7. The West Wing
8. Friday Night Lights
9. Dexter
10. The Shield
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05-26-2010 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rendle
I love lists!

1. Sopranos
2. Mad Men
3. Six Feet Under
4. Breaking Bad
5. The Wire
6. Lost
7. The West Wing
8. Friday Night Lights
9. Dexter
10. The Shield
If you take out the shows I haven't seen this is really close to mine except I think putting Wire at 5 is an outrage!

Question: Will I like 6FU? My GF and a few of my friends insist I will not enjoy it, but I'm not convinced strictly due to lists like this from people like yourself that seem good at television viewing.
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05-26-2010 , 09:20 AM
Six Feet Under was created by Alan Ball who wrote American Beauty and also created True Blood. It's much closer to American Beauty than True Blood. It's a heavy drama that ends better than any series I've ever seen. The show is anchored by two great actors, Peter Krause and Michael C. Hall. Death is a major theme. The family works at a funeral home and every episode starts with someone dying. There are a few gay characters so maybe your girlfriend and friends think you're a homophobe.

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05-26-2010 , 09:31 AM
homophobia not the issue lol. I've heard things like "too emo," "not very plot-centric," "too wishy-washy for you..."
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05-26-2010 , 09:42 AM
Maybe wait to see if anyone else agrees but I'd definitly recommend it.
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05-26-2010 , 09:44 AM
I bought the first seasons of Sons of Anarchy and Chuck which I'll try to start sometime in the next week.
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05-26-2010 , 11:22 AM
SFU was incredible.

Only time I can ever remember in a show coming near tears.

Furthermore, their characters are so well done.. and so real.

Just a really well done show.
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05-26-2010 , 12:29 PM
-1 to the SFU recommendations.
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05-26-2010 , 01:54 PM
RE: SFU

I thought i remembered liking s1 so i got s2-6 when costco had some pretty sick deal on dvd's (like $15/season). Sat down to watch S2 and couldn't make it 5 episodes. I don't know if i'd just been away from it too long or what but I just ended up hating all of them and not wanting to watch anymore.
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05-26-2010 , 03:37 PM
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-1 to the SFU recommendations.
-1

Watched through most of S2 and stopped. It's one of those shows that if you watch it when you're 15-19, you'll think it's the best thing ever. Then since the finale apparently ties EVERYTHING up in perfect pretty little bows, people mistakenly think it's incredible and cry about it.

Also helps that it was in essentially the "first wave" of the current Golden Age, and I suppose for a short time may have been a legitimate contender for third after Sopranos and West Wing (please forgive me if I'm forgetting another show or three).
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05-26-2010 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JDalla
Note: Have not seen: Deadwood
Get on that, buddy... such a great show.

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Originally Posted by Rendle
I bought the first seasons of Sons of Anarchy and Chuck which I'll try to start sometime in the next week.
SoA is on my list after I finish s3 of Burn Notice (got detoured by Party Down which I love).

Chuck on the other hand can diediedie. I posted about it earlier in this thread but the show is so annoying... every episode has the same 'format/structure', it's way too safe in that the plot never seems to progress anywhere, and the technology in it is so LOL that it's hard to suspend disbelief. If you've seen 1 episode of Chuck you've seen them all imo.

Slight redemption in that Lester/Jeff/Morgan bring the funny, but not consistently.
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05-26-2010 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rendle
Six Feet Under was created by Alan Ball who wrote American Beauty and also created True Blood. It's much closer to American Beauty than True Blood. It's a heavy drama that ends better than any series I've ever seen. The show is anchored by two great actors, Peter Krause and Michael C. Hall. Death is a major theme. The family works at a funeral home and every episode starts with someone dying. There are a few gay characters so maybe your girlfriend and friends think you're a homophobe.

I loved SFU as well. It's not just Peter Krause and Michael Hall that were amazing, the entire show is full of amazing actors.

The dad (Richard Jenkins) was nominated for Best Actor this past year at the AA. The mom (Frances Conroy) was really good. Even the daughter was solid.

The supporting cast was amazing as well.

Rachael Griffiths
Jeremy Sisto
James Cromwell
Lily Taylor
Joanna Cassidy
even Ben Foster before he got huge.

This is one show everyone should see before they die. All puns intended, obv.
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05-26-2010 , 06:05 PM
Yeah, great cast.

Other notables: Kathy Bates, Peter Facinelli, Mena Suvari, Jenna Fischer, Rainn Wilson, Ed Begley Jr., Justin Theroux, Patricia Clarkson, Michelle Trachtenberg

Last edited by Rendle; 05-26-2010 at 06:11 PM.
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05-26-2010 , 06:28 PM
6FU is definitely good, though it's a tier below stuff like Dexter/Wire/Sopranos/Lost. It's really strong at the beginning, it kinda starts to dip around season 3 or 4 (I forget which), it gets better near the end, and then it has an amazing finale. It's not an incredible show, but if you're enough of a TV fan to be ITT looking for several 50-100 hour shows to watch in a two-week stretch, it's definitely worth your time. I haven't seen all of the "big time" dramas people love (Shield, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, etc.), but I've watched a lot of shows, and it's probably #7 or #8 on my list of dramas.
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05-26-2010 , 08:03 PM
A good episode of SFU left me feeling like I just had an intense, bad drug experience.

I still think about the kidnapping episode. The show did drag for periods in the middle.

Simon perfectly captured base human motivations in rational response to incentives. Ball captured the error term of crazy.
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05-28-2010 , 01:35 AM
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Also helps that it was in essentially the "first wave" of the current Golden Age, and I suppose for a short time may have been a legitimate contender for third after Sopranos and West Wing (please forgive me if I'm forgetting another show or three).
OZ is presumably the bellwether though I don't think there's really a clear demarcation. I think shows like NYPD Blue and ER would be proto-modern golden age shows. Possibly also shows like The Larry Sanders Show, The X-Flies and Law & Order.
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05-30-2010 , 03:55 PM
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I bought the first seasons of Sons of Anarchy and Chuck which I'll try to start sometime in the next week.
The Sons of Anarchy pilot was ridiculously intense.
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05-30-2010 , 04:48 PM
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The Sons of Anarchy pilot was ridiculously intense.
season 1 was solid, but season 2 was unreal good
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05-30-2010 , 05:06 PM
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The Sons of Anarchy pilot was ridiculously intense.
First half of season 1 was okay.

It gets A LOT better.
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05-30-2010 , 05:07 PM
very good to hear
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05-30-2010 , 05:46 PM
A few shows to recommend:

Underbelly




Madventures (Not sure if the first two seasons have English subtitles already but the 3rd is in English).





Youtube clip with subtitles

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05-31-2010 , 03:34 PM
penus itt
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05-31-2010 , 07:28 PM
Wanna get into a new "funny" show. Please let me know what you think i would enjoy based on my previous viewings.

Loved
Community(!!!!)
the Office US
Trailer Park Boys
Seinfeld
It's always sunny....
½ of How i met your mother
South Park

Liked
the Big Bang Theory

Meh
2½ men


* Considering Curb your Enthusiasm purely because of the season 7 seinfeld "reunion". Guess i cant skip the first 6 seasons and begin with season 7 tho?
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05-31-2010 , 08:12 PM
Ever seen arrested development?
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