I thought the diamonds and watch tie in together, but I can't for the life of me remember how. "Maybe someone pawned the diamonds if Caspere's watch was pawned" isn't a good enough explanation for me. I really do believe Caspere's murder was about nothing more than the diamonds.

From the angle that he was murdered by Burris, you can say that Burris staged the body so that pile of eff ups would be assigned to the case. But again, there are so many loose ends right now, that it's really hard to figure out what the angle is about anything. I sure thought the commune angle was going to play a big deal in all of this, but now I don't know if it will anymore. This diamond case has turned out to be a huge deal, when it looked like nothing almost the whole way. The film set Cadillac, burner of the Cadillac, and frame job all seemed important at the time, but that's also on the back burner along with the hard drive (the set photographer is person of interest #1 in that storyline, to me). I find it hard to believe it won't all tie together, but they have a lot of work to do to get there.

So I'm clear, you think Dixon was killed as part of the set up you think he did, or something else? Other than them finding the Woodrugh pictures, is there any other reason for him to have been killed other than intentionally? You're tying me up in knots a little bit here, so I'm not really sure what you're saying. It's either that you think my theory is awful, or you think he was killed intentionally too. Your language kind of supports both...lol.

That would have been the most entertaining crime scene investigation in history. There was no investigation, you can be quite sure of that. Them identifying her at the party is...uh...yeah, though obviously prints could have been lifted off the knife by someone.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who doesn't know what character is which.. Who the hell was that black guy in tunnel? To lazy go back n re watch it I just want it to be over with..

I am actually feeling the VVs redhead wife used to be a man theory. Or if not that, something else weird. She mentioned how she had several surgeries, more than VV thought, didn't she?

The scenes between her and VV are so weird and stilted, and her character has been such a blank slate, I feel like there has to be some sort of final episode revelation about her.

Also there must be some payoff to the question of who really raped Velcoro's wife and where this chubby redhead kid came from.

Chief Holloway of the Vinci PD.

VV is a lot dumber than we thought if the redhead is a man.

Lol ok maybe not a transgender but she seems to be something more than just a supportive wife. Something is off with her although I suppose it could just be how she is written/acted.

There are a handful of people on here (me included) who think she's got something up with her. Welcome to the club.

They have definitely given off a vibe that VV's wife has something "off" or has been maneuvering behind the scenes.

Sir,

Seems pretty obvious she has been undercover the whole time, truly detecting the **** out of everyone and everything.

remember in season 1 when everyone was sure there would be some revelation about woody's daughter that explained her behavior?

I wouldn't get my hopes up that they salvage VV wife's absurdly shallow n unnecessary character.

I think all of VV's scenes with her would have played better if he was just talking to himself instead.

that cleavage tho.

Wasted remaining as only cleavage.

I don't know. The biggest loose end is that Woodrugh finding the body is completely random.

0% chance there was actually a complete crime scene investigation

the attorney general and vinci police chief were there and im pretty sure they can discreetly run a check on prints whenever they damn well please

By surgeries I thought she meant that she had a bunch of abortions, and that's why she can't get pregnant.

Initially she said she had only two IIRC, but in a latter episode she said it's a bigger number.

Technically "scrape jobs"

Yeah probably right although at the time it seemed odd that she would refer to abortions as surgeries. I can't remember the exact words she used. Maybe she had cervical cancer or something? I guess it doesn't matter the upshot was that she can't get pregnant.

I still say she is playing VV somehow in fact will not surprise me if she leads to his demise in the final ep, just when it looks like he will get out of it.

The more I think about it, the more I think the end will be "Shakespearean" - in other words, all the main characters will die.

VV's list reminded me a lot of Breaking Bad's final episodes. It would be pretty badass if the cops figure out there is a deal taking place and VV, the police and the Catalyst conspiracy group get involved into one huge fight.

VV coming on top and yelling "THISIS4STANMOTHER****ER" as he kills the final guy would be pretty GOAT.

I hope it's more like that then some stupid huge twist that they try to pull off out of no where.

I think the biggest failing (or among them) is that it was set up as this mystery, but that's not at all what the season has been about. If it was set up more as just a dark and weird cop season about corruption and power then I'd be all for it. But CF getting shot by a weird bird man and mystic women singing in an empty bar and vague dialogue just don't fit that at all

it's NOIR man, don't you get it!?

You mean the most convenient thing.

That was a joke. Was the Vinci Police Chief there? I don't remember seeing him (doesn't mean he wasn't there).

I really hope all the main characters die. That would be satisfying. A perfect troll would be for nothing to wrap up, and the characters die right as they're about to figure something out. Dead CF ends in a VO saying, "there are no answers in life".

There's a reason why noir is considered pretty much a dead genre in Hollywood. I love noir, but this isn't good noir, it's an attempt at noir that doesn't really work. The first episode needed to be in a different director's hands to really sell that angle. It felt like "try hard" gritty.

Legit lol'd.