In the po box they found a picture of the secretary at one of the parties. It's safe to assume that is how she got her in.

Except the diamonds were seen at sex parties. So, for it to be her, she needs to know someone who knew about the diamond robbery, saw the diamonds at the sex party, knew that this Caspere guy was the guy with the diamonds, told her about it, and she had to be a good enough secretary to get the job (and there even being any position open...pun intended). A secretary on a theoretical regular day job is not really gonna be wrapped up in the sex party thing unless...reasons.

It's just far more plausible for the orphan daughter to be a sex worker at the parties, and that just plain comes back to Vera, who seems like a brazen liar, and has been set up to be integral to the plot since day one for no particular reason.

Let's be honest. 'Because it makes sense' isn't exactly a driving force behind script decisions this season.

So I have a diamond question....if Burris and drunk guy stole the diamonds during the RK riots or whatever...why didn't they sell them? I mean if it was the buy in to Vinci then why hasn't someone done something with them? And how did Caspere end up with them....wasn't he like an accountant for LAPD or something? Did the other two guys have to give up their diamonds for the buy in and the Vinci mob was all like 'nah Caspere just hold on to yours.'

And wouldn't (presumably) rare, or at least readily identifiable, blue diamonds be umm, the last thing you would want to steal? Like who are you going to sell those to? Is there some international market for blue diamonds I am unaware of; and how do two rando LA detectives have access to it?

I haven't understood anything about these diamonds since they have been introduced, and now that I at least know some of the backstory I still don't really get them at all.

Whatever.

My guess is that Caspere held some back to use for a special occasion. And that's why he no longer has eyes or nuts...or a heartbeat. They never actually said how many there were, just that some blue diamonds were stolen.

As an addendum to this, I thought they implied that the diamonds were worth millions of dollars and yet Dixon and Burris are giving them away as a "buy in" that gets them a cushy 100k a year job? So they have to work that job, even if it is easy/corrupt, for 20 years to get more than what they would get for just selling the goddam diamonds? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

They probably couldn't find anyone to buy the diamonds. Nobody can move ice

Didn't they basically already tell us that his assistant is the orphan daughter? You're saying that they are gonna be wrong about that and it will really be the missing Latina Vera that Bellizeres snatched from the party?

Not to mention that the robbers took only the diamonds, knowing in advance that they were there and came specifically for them - why would beat cops know about them? and why have to murder the shop owners?

I just assumed they are involved in a lot of dirty stuff, so that the PD salary is just a small sum compared etc.

Given that the whole city of Vinci is corrupt, I think the potential income for those guys are 7 figures (in a fictional universe).

Ice can move all on its own, baby

The Dogs!! Nice!!

That right there is what you call conjecture on their part. They're connecting a dot based on a guess, but we don't know if they're right. Do you want to know how quickly they can solve that? All they'd need is about 2 minutes at a computer terminal. They'd be able to find out if the secretary were adopted, since it would be extremely easy for them to find out her full name.

I'm personally not saying anything about whether it's Vera and they're wrong. I think it would be insanely coincidental for the secretary to be the orphan daughter, and all the pieces of it being Vera still fit. It's all about how the writers decide to wrap that end that matters. This is all conjecture, just like trying to figure out who the orphan boy is. I think it's either gonna be the guy in the cowboy hat or the set photographer. Based on events that have happened in the show, I think it would be better if the kids were Vera and cowboy hat guy, rather than Erika Caspere's secretary and the set photographer. That's in line with the level of writing convenience there was to get the three cops together on the case in the first place. One seemingly inconsequential dot brings it all together (the missing sister).

The show constantly acts as if we still live in the 1970s when it comes to basic search engine stuff, despite True Detective Woodrugh figuring out all the bad guys worked together.

Watch the 90 minute season finale on HBO to find out.

I can see that for Caspar and the chief, I can't see that for two guys who are still detectives 20 years later. Anything other than selling the diamonds seems like spew.

Burris isn't a detective, he's a Lieutenant. Dixon had been labeled as ineffective from day one. He got there because he had the dirt, not that he was good. Because of the standing of all those players, they have their hand in every piece of corrupt business in the most corrupt place in California. Believe me, everyone but Dixon is probably super rich and all have/had insane amounts of power.

But I'm sure all will be revealed in the 90 minute season finale on HBO...or it won't.

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True Detective's viewership numbers have steadily decreased every week but one and are down from 3.17 in the premiere to 2.18 last week.

In a real universe.

Look at what happened in the City of Bell (right next to Vernon - the city Vinci is based on)

http://timelines.latimes.com/bell/

can you, or someone, elaborate on this?
what do they know about the diamonds/robbery?
what is their agenda?

thought they were trying to sell drugs in Frank's clubs or something when they were introduced. don't remember anything beyond that really, other than yeah, killing that girl. how does them messing with Frank tie into anything else?

nunnehi is off on his own thing there, nothing has connected the Mexicans to the diamonds yet.

Also, Dixon is who framed the meth dealers. So the plan was, he frames those guys for Caspere, unknown Real Bad Guys tip off the meth dealers that they need to kill the particularly slovenly cop? (he wasn't even the first cop killed, they lit up a uniform first).

From an organization that murdered a DA and left her body out, shot Woodrugh in the back in a street, etc.? They don't seem to be shy about direct action.

Also Colin Farrell pistol whipped a security guard pretty badly at the same party, and Woodrugh was there and he broke into a house, so I'm not sure why Woodrugh and Farrell didn't also have APBs from the same night.

Unless somehow the bad guys knew it was McAdams but not who the other two guys there were, which just makes no sense.

I am definitely off on my own thing about the Mexicans, but it makes no sense for them to be used in the story the way they have if there isn't some connection to the robbery. I know NP loves convenience to the max, but that would be pretty out there even for him for these guys that just showed up at a VV club to then be connected to the one person who theoretically knew about the diamonds...and then also knew about one of the players in that robbery.

Again, it makes total sense for the cowboy hat guy to the be the orphan brother, even if he's not. He has details of the robbery, and knows what was taken if he is. The Mexicans aren't some strange one off character in the story just so NP can write his Mexican standoff line (I hope).

Fly, not sure if you're trolling about Dixon. Chances are he's done nothing but try to dig dirt the entire time he was on (researching pawn shops and taking lewd photos of Woodrugh). Someone was telling him to do that, and he's not the mastermind of anything. And if he was a mastermind, his master mind is now all over the pavement of some Vinci sidewalk.

Irina didn't know about the diamonds, Irina knew about the watch.

You think Dixon was intentionally killed, but think I'm trolling to suggest otherwise? The show is bad, but my God if that was how Dixon's bosses decided to whack him that's the most contrived stupid bull**** in a very contrived stupid bull**** show.

they probably ran prints on the knife