What good is Danny's physicality going to do him when they put a puzzle at the end of the challenge, which is what is going to happen coming down the stretch. Frannie and Carson the obv challenge threats.

there has been a ton of fire imagery associated with Carson recently

foreshadowing him in the F4 fire challenge?

They’ve done ****ed with Carolyn.

I’m being silly, but I also think Carson and Yam Yam made a mistake. That was the wrong move. Carolyn would have been loyal to them at a fault.

yeah I don't get that

I want Carolyn to win so bad but I've used up my one time

anyone have a spare

like please tell me this was her chris underwood moment

Danny lives!

But only for now

3 great episodes in a row for me redeeming the atrocious pre merge and early post merge. My cliff notes

-Carson blitzing through another puzzle is no surprise.

-Just when I mentally told myself Heidi per the edit is playing the best game of the Island her name finally comes up

-Unpopular opinion on this thread but I absolutely love Jamie - such a chaotic queen

I'm starting to like Jaime a little more...she's just so clueless about everything lol. I think she's a zero vote finalist.

Still think the winner has to be a Tika. They've had way too much strategic content for it not to be one of them. Definitely since Tony's second win it's been way harder to pick the winner in this new era though.

Bring on Carolyn's revenge next week.

the two people left out of the Frannie vote - Carolyn and Heidi - both have real idols

is it Wednesday yet?

Seemed like a lot of FPS going on or edit misdirection; voting Frannie (challenge threat and an absolute no doubter jury vote in her pocket) was the clear play and they did it.

Must say I'm pretty down on Frannie as a player overal. Winning the loved one visit reward after taking 2 out the 3 immunities is putting a big bullseye on your back and feels like an unforced error.

To have the whole tribe bar Carolyn wanting to take you out is not a good sign, especially as Carson & Yamyam are willing to risk the break up of their alliance to get it over the line.

I know I'm a Jamie truther but the audience perception is still very much 0% win equity (have seen people calling her the ultimate goat).

However my social assumption is once Frannie (and others assuming Jamie does make final 3) enters the jury and one by one have undeniable proof from Kane that they were wrong and totally misread Jamie with the idol story they will be more likely to give her an ear at final tribal council.

If Gabler can win a landslide jury vote anything is possible

You win loved one reward. You tell Probst you'll sit it out and let everyone else go to sanctuary if you get immunity at next tribal.

Does Probst entertain it provided all others agree to it?

Self sacrifice never works though. Youd get voted off the next tribal.

Harry Potter and Yam Yam f’ed this up I think.

That reminded me more of an old school Survivor episode than the modern day Survivor. Not a whole lot of strategy talk around advantages(other than Jamie trying to convince everyone she didn't have the idol), just focus on social gameplay.

Focusing on Yam Yam being mad he wasn't picked by Frannie, everyone back at the beach strategizing against the comp beast, the reward challenge people on a food and letter high aligning together momentarily, then ultimately the actual scrambling for who to vote without having to focus on a million different advantages. Just kind of the stuff that Survivor was built on that I grew to love.

I also think this has been the best season of newbies for me since David Vs Goliath.

Is there anyone left who could even be considered a goat to drag to final tribal council? Everyone left is at least a competent player who is respected by the others and actually playing.

Lauren got a masters to teach elementary school?

Danny is dumb for taking out his biggest shield

That was a good episode for Carson.

Not sure where Carolyn is going to go if she cuts ties with Carson and Yam. I bet they reconcile. Frannie was the only one that voted Heidi with her, and she's probably going to need to answer to that with Heidi and Danny.

I want Jamie off my TV.

Win immunity, find an idol, live to fight another day. And if everyone away you'd have freedom to search endlessly for idol.

most states pay more for teachers with a masters degree and also do not require a degree in education.

Can't imagine anyone other than Carson, Carolyn, or Danny winning.

Jam Jam could have a slim chance if he gets the perfect F3.

Just can't see Lauren, Heidi, or Jamie having any chance beyond maybe sneaking into 3rd.

I could see Heidi winning

Want Danny, but not sure who'd vote him, unless he goes on a challenge run to finish it out. I'd replace Yam with Danny in the likely winners.

I mean, isn't it only Carolyn who actively doesn't like Danny? I think the others probably feel favorable to neutral about him. I don't really have a hard time seeing people vote for him if he manages to make it to the end.

For me, my favorite characters have been Carson, Yam Yam, Carolyn, and Danny. So I'd like for one of them to win. I'm not sure if I'm being unfair to Lauren, Heidi, and Jamie, but as things stand, I'd be unsatisfied if one of them won. Heidi and Lauren both feel like second (probably generous) fiddles to me and Jamie has seemed actively clueless/lacking impact. Would Heidi and Lauren have a better edit if they won, or is the impression they are giving exactly why they aren't going to win?

I cosign this. After this episode i'm starting to think Danny might be a bit of an 'alpha goat' similar to how Xander was which is why hes not being seriously targeted.

In fact I wouldn't be at all shocked if the final four was something like Danny, Carolyn, Carson and Jamie or Lauren

Danny wins immunity, takes Carolyn while publicly dragging her, Carson loses fire and Carolyn picks up every single jury vote

(Disclaimer - I dont actually buy that Carolyn is winning. I have YamYam as the clear favourite with Jamie as my wildcard Gabler esk wtf backup)