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07-27-2012 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by YouWishFish
Regardless of whether it was "rape" or not. You're insane if you think Skylar isn't scared of Walt.
She doesn't think that Walt would like murder her or beat her up or anything. No way. And lololololol at anyone who thinks that Skyler thinks that Walt would react violently to her saying not tonight honey. That's not why she didn't say anything. She didn't say anything because she feels trapped by the person and life that she finds herself in. She doesn't want to be married to a delusional violent drug dealer and she doesn't know how to extricate her from that situation. She's trapped.
07-27-2012 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mjkidd
She doesn't think that Walt would like murder her or beat her up or anything. No way. And lololololol at anyone who thinks that Skyler thinks that Walt would react violently to her saying not tonight honey. That's not why she didn't say anything. She didn't say anything because she feels trapped by the person and life that she finds herself in. She doesn't want to be married to a delusional violent drug dealer and she doesn't know how to extricate her from that situation. She's trapped.
Exactly!
07-27-2012 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
And tbh, while she is certainly seeing her husband in a new light, she's not scared for her life, or thinks that Walt would hurt her. Where do you get that from??
What do you think if someone has this take on the situation:

Skyler is depressed. She is scared of what Walt can do. She is not going to rock the boat and she's shut herself down and she's going to comply because she wants to stay alive.
07-27-2012 , 07:17 PM
07-27-2012 , 07:17 PM
And if every woman who feels trapped in her marriage and doesn't see a way out of it but still puts out for her husband is being raped then....

Spoiler:


Cause they rapin everybody out here
07-27-2012 , 07:21 PM
omg can we stop ****ing talking about it? jfc this thread is overflowing with aids
07-27-2012 , 07:35 PM
i hope walt doesnt rape this thread










he'd get aids
07-27-2012 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtVandelay!
i hope walt doesnt rape this thread










he'd get aids
I approve.
07-27-2012 , 07:49 PM
4:30
07-27-2012 , 07:56 PM
lol- depending on how you interpret that clip it totally serves both arguments. To me they're obviously talking in very broad terms, but if you think of it as specifically about that moment it's the other way.
07-27-2012 , 07:58 PM
So they're writing Skyler as she is scared that Walt is going to like deliberately hurt her if she "rocks the boat"? lol I don't even. That is beyond dumb.

edit: yeah I agree with Dids.
07-27-2012 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mjkidd
So they're writing Skyler as she is scared that Walt is going to like deliberately hurt her if she "rocks the boat"? lol I don't even. That is beyond dumb.

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well he did just blowup a dude at a nursing home ,i dont think skylar ever imagined walt would be capable of doing anything remotely close to that
07-27-2012 , 08:24 PM
Dominic, you are in Las Vegas, right? Are you familiar with this section of the Nevada Revised Statutes:

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INTENTIONAL TRANSMISSION OF HUMAN IMMUNODEFICIENCY VIRUS

NRS 201.205 Penalty; affirmative defense.

1. A person who, after testing positive in a test approved by the State Board of Health for exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus and receiving actual notice of that fact, intentionally, knowingly or willfully engages in conduct in a manner that is intended or likely to transmit the disease to another person is guilty of a category B felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 2 years and a maximum term of not more than 10 years, or by a fine of not more than $10,000, or by both fine and imprisonment.

(Added to NRS by 1993, 1943; A 1995, 1199)
?

You need to stop posting in this thread.


Dids! Please use your authority here. If the above is not adequate, please also see this section of the same:

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NRS 441A.300 Confinement of person whose conduct may spread acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. A person who is diagnosed as having acquired immunodeficiency syndrome who fails to comply with a written order of a health authority, or who engages in behavior through which the disease may be spread to others, is, in addition to any other penalty imposed pursuant to this chapter, subject to confinement by order of a court of competent jurisdiction.

(Added to NRS by 1989, 297)

Dominic (and a few others) are in clear violation of this statute with their participation in this thread. Please take appropriate action ASAP. This has now become a public health issue.



Last edited by chopstick; 07-27-2012 at 08:26 PM. Reason: aids
07-27-2012 , 08:28 PM
07-27-2012 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mjkidd

Cause they rapin everybody out here
A++++++++++++ post.
07-27-2012 , 08:42 PM
Spoiler:


Spoiler:
07-27-2012 , 08:50 PM
Is Lydia going to become full partner? Is Mike going to pay her out of his share? Or is she expected to help in return for Mike not killing her?

Will Mike be in to mine just enough gold to compensate his guys and leave enough for his granddaughter? What happens if Mike decides they've made enough money and he wants out? How much will be enough for Walt? Is Walt going to want to 'crank that dial' as well?
07-27-2012 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ||.||.||
Is Lydia going to become full partner? Is mike going to pay her out of his share? Or is she expected to help in return for Mike not killing her?

Will Mike be in to mine just enough gold to compensate his guys and leave enough for his granddaughter? What happens if Mike decides they've made enough money and he wants out? How much will be enough for Walt? Is Walt going to want to 'crank that dial' as well?
What does any of this have to do with whether Walt raped Skyler or not?
07-27-2012 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
true or false


If Walt was just some lowly high school teacher, Ted would NOT be in the hospital right now.
True or false, if a butterfly flapped its wings in the forest 1000 years ago, Ted wouldn't have been born.
07-27-2012 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PreacherCasy151
O she's definitely scurrrred of him, but I mean she might end up coming round to backing him because she gets off on the power she holds over Ted. There were spots last season that hinted that she was gonna full-on break bad, herself.

Fear can turn into misguided loyalty, in a Stockholm Syndromey way.

Stranger things have happened, and I don't think it would be completely out of the blue or out of character.
I think she's more scared of the danger Walt brings to the family rather than Walt directly harming his family or her.
07-27-2012 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
True or false, if a butterfly flapped its wings in the forest 1000 years ago, Ted wouldn't have been born.
GMAFB
07-27-2012 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
Thread has definitely come down with a bad case of aids. At least that song will never stop being spectacular
07-27-2012 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
GMAFB
There's a difference between cause and responsibility.

I view responsibility as the closest moral agents to an action from happening.

So a few examples:
Plane Crash:
Cause: Jane's Dad screwing up at his job.
Cause of that: Him coming into work unfit
Cause of that: Poor choice by him + Him being distracted by his daughters death
Cause of that: Walt letting her die when he could have saved her
Cause of that: Her threatening Walt + ingesting a large amount of drugs.
Cause of that: Walt being a Dick and Jesse getting her back using
Cause of that: Walt being a dick to Jesse
Cause of that: ....

So we judge how unreasonable her dad's actions were to start. Minor misstep by him, but I think it's a bit understandable.
So we step back and we have Walt with some responsibility there. But we can't stop there. Jane and Jesse have some responsibility for their actions as well.

So we have roughly in my estimation: Her dad: 5%, Walt: 50%, Jane: 35%, Jesse: 10%.

Then we have the Ted situation:

Ted gets paralyzed
Cause: Ted running away
Cause: Thugs in his house holding him hostage
Cause: Saul coordinating it
Cause: Skyler ordering it
Cause: Ted basically stealing the money intended for taxes
Cause: Skyler being a ****** and giving it to him.
Cause: Skyler and Ted cooking the books + Skyler not wanting to get caught for the Meth stuff
Cause: Ted being a dick, Skyler having no spine here, and Walt bringing Skyler into this.

So I view the following responsibility: Ted: 35%, Skyler: 40%, Walt 20%, Saul: 5%

Walt has some say here, Skyler had many outs. Just as Ted had many outs to not get into this situation. Ted's actions don't really justify what happened to him, wheareas Skyler's actions were directly the cause of it. She was reacting to Walt, but she had numerous other steps of her own responsibility where she had other reasonable courses of action.
07-27-2012 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
There's a difference between cause and responsibility.

I view responsibility as the closest moral agents to an action from happening.

So a few examples:
Plane Crash:
Cause: Jane's Dad screwing up at his job.
Cause of that: Him coming into work unfit
Cause of that: Poor choice by him + Him being distracted by his daughters death
Cause of that: Walt letting her die when he could have saved her
Cause of that: Her threatening Walt + ingesting a large amount of drugs.
Cause of that: Walt being a Dick and Jesse getting her back using
Cause of that: Walt being a dick to Jesse
Cause of that: ....

So we judge how unreasonable her dad's actions were to start. Minor misstep by him, but I think it's a bit understandable.
So we step back and we have Walt with some responsibility there. But we can't stop there. Jane and Jesse have some responsibility for their actions as well.

So we have roughly in my estimation: Her dad: 5%, Walt: 50%, Jane: 35%, Jesse: 10%.

Then we have the Ted situation:

Ted gets paralyzed
Cause: Ted running away
Cause: Thugs in his house holding him hostage
Cause: Saul coordinating it
Cause: Skyler ordering it
Cause: Ted basically stealing the money intended for taxes
Cause: Skyler being a ****** and giving it to him.
Cause: Skyler and Ted cooking the books + Skyler not wanting to get caught for the Meth stuff
Cause: Ted being a dick, Skyler having no spine here, and Walt bringing Skyler into this.

So I view the following responsibility: Ted: 35%, Skyler: 40%, Walt 20%, Saul: 5%

Walt has some say here, Skyler had many outs. Just as Ted had many outs to not get into this situation. Ted's actions don't really justify what happened to him, wheareas Skyler's actions were directly the cause of it. She was reacting to Walt, but she had numerous other steps of her own responsibility where she had other reasonable courses of action.
By your logic, walt has as much as 20% responsibility for a sitution directly created by skyler, through saul who he outsourced to a few men, who you give 0% responsibility, all while walt knew nothing of any of it?
07-27-2012 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by torq
By your logic, walt has as much as 20% responsibility for a sitution directly created by skyler, through saul who he outsourced to a few men, who you give 0% responsibility, all while walt knew nothing of any of it?
Saul I gave 5%. I view him as a hired gun. I suppose his thugs could have some responsibility too, and maybe it's a tad low. Maybe I excuse them a bit since being immoral for their clients is just kind of what they do. But I could see them having more responsibility in this.

Skylers actions were only needed because of Walt's criminal enterprises.

      
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