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05-12-2009 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by shane88888
Good post.


I really hope Walt goes 100% heel, Godfather style. I think a show with a main character that loses all redeeming qualities would be awesome.
+1 on good poast and losing all redeeming qualities would be awesome
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05-12-2009 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by stats79
+1 on good poast and losing all redeeming qualities would be awesome
I agree cool idea, but show would lose its audience.
05-12-2009 , 01:37 PM
I find Walt jr. ****ing annoying. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Palsy is only a physical disability, not a mental one as well, right? Could you imagine a normal high school kid being as lame and passive as Walt jr?

Another character problem is Jesse's complete ineptitude with the mechanics of cooking meth. Are we supposed to believe that he was making a living cooking meth before, but now all of a sudden once Walt shows up, he has no ****ing clue how to do anything?
05-12-2009 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy
I find Walt jr. ****ing annoying. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Palsy is only a physical disability, not a mental one as well, right? Could you imagine a normal high school kid being as lame and passive as Walt jr?

Another character problem is Jesse's complete ineptitude with the mechanics of cooking meth. Are we supposed to believe that he was making a living cooking meth before, but now all of a sudden once Walt shows up, he has no ****ing clue how to do anything?
He didn't show any cooking ineptitude the last time they cooked $1.2 million worth, did he?
05-12-2009 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Xaston
He didn't show any cooking ineptitude the last time they cooked $1.2 million worth, did he?
Are you talking about the time he didn't know what copper is?
05-12-2009 , 02:07 PM
I believe it's pretty common for meth producers to have no ****ing clue what they are doing. The show has hinted at this before. Isn't part of the premise the idea that anyone with a clue can produce insanely high-grade stuff?
05-12-2009 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy
I find Walt jr. ****ing annoying. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Palsy is only a physical disability, not a mental one as well, right? Could you imagine a normal high school kid being as lame and passive as Walt jr?
You're wrong. CP can have symptoms of mental ******ation, speech disorders, learning disabilities etc. CP has a pretty big range and the primary symptoms are the physical ones. I've met people with CP who are otherwise normal as well.
05-12-2009 , 02:41 PM
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I find Walt jr. ****ing annoying. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Palsy is only a physical disability, not a mental one as well, right? Could you imagine a normal high school kid being as lame and passive as Walt jr?
Yeah, you wouldn't think that it would effect his confidence or anything.
05-12-2009 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy
Are you talking about the time he didn't know what copper is?
Are you talking about the time they were making a battery out of nuts and bolts and loose change and car break pads or something and a sponge soaked in something? Cause's that not cooking meth. That's being able to make a battery out of a bunch of crap.

And I don't think he didn't know what copper was, it's not like Walt said is this Copper or Aluminum and he guessed wrong, he just said "wire?" when Walt asked him what was very conductive, and then he shook a copper wire in the kids face.
05-12-2009 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
I believe it's pretty common for meth producers to have no ****ing clue what they are doing. The show has hinted at this before. Isn't part of the premise the idea that anyone with a clue can produce insanely high-grade stuff?
ding!
05-12-2009 , 02:44 PM
Anyone think they're gonna explore a subplot of Walt getting together with that principal of the school, Carmen?



In one of the episodes earlier this year she was all like "If you need anything come and see me" or something like that and I got the impression she was into him. I was expecting them to pursue that further but I haven't seen any escalation thus far. Do you guys think they might go that route? I think it'd be interesting.
05-12-2009 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dak9885
I agree cool idea, but show would lose its audience.
I don't know about that. First of all, Cranston said in an interview (in Esquire I think) that the character is going to turn into Scarface. Perhaps he was joking but I doubt it. The point is, many shows have had anti-heroes and gangsters and the audience is glued to them. Maybe you've heard of little shows called The Sopranos and The Wire. Plus I think Walt could disappear into the world of meth dealing and become the hardest-core criminal in Albuquerque but maintain the qualities that make him a good dad and husband and high school teacher.

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Originally Posted by Autocratic
I believe it's pretty common for meth producers to have no ****ing clue what they are doing. The show has hinted at this before. Isn't part of the premise the idea that anyone with a clue can produce insanely high-grade stuff?
Yeah, I mean the final scene at the Home Depot place where he tells the other meth head "you're doing it wrong!" is evidence that Jesse is totally par for the course. They're all like that. Nobody has a clue.
05-12-2009 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by private joker
I don't know about that. First of all, Cranston said in an interview (in Esquire I think) that the character is going to turn into Scarface. Perhaps he was joking but I doubt it. The point is, many shows have had anti-heroes and gangsters and the audience is glued to them. Maybe you've heard of little shows called The Sopranos and The Wire. Plus I think Walt could disappear into the world of meth dealing and become the hardest-core criminal in Albuquerque but maintain the qualities that make him a good dad and husband and high school teacher.
Didn't he stop being a good husband a long time ago, and certainly last episode showed some pretttty strong signs of no longer being a good dad?
05-12-2009 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by private joker
I don't know about that. First of all, Cranston said in an interview (in Esquire I think) that the character is going to turn into Scarface. Perhaps he was joking but I doubt it. The point is, many shows have had anti-heroes and gangsters and the audience is glued to them. Maybe you've heard of little shows called The Sopranos and The Wire. Plus I think Walt could disappear into the world of meth dealing and become the hardest-core criminal in Albuquerque but maintain the qualities that make him a good dad and husband and high school teacher.
While I certainly would not stop watching the show if Walt were to become a drug lord, I could see the show potentially losing some of its flair if this were to happen. My favorite part of the show is seeing Walt balance his seemingly normal home life with his drug life. You lose the home life, you lose the interesting dichotomy in the show, no matter how fleeting it is becoming.

That said, I do think it depends on how the producers handle Walt's descent into full blown drug lord, as it seems to be the natural progression of the show at this point. I just hope the show doesn't jump the shark in the process.
05-12-2009 , 06:59 PM
Walt having no "redeemable social value" would really take the show down - it would become one-dimensional. He would basically be a Tuco with a degree in chemistry - a lot of the dynamics would be lost.
05-12-2009 , 08:44 PM
I loved how Walt's "why me?" joke just COMPLETELY bombed. The tequila scene was super intense for me...my heart was actually racing a little bit. And I loved when Walt and Jesse were eating and Walt said very gravely that he had radiation pneumotitis, knowing exactly what Jesse's reaction was going to be. Great episode. Actually it's really just a standard BB episode, which as it turns out is super awesome. Soft bigotry of high expectations imo.
05-12-2009 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RacersEdge
Walt having no "redeemable social value" would really take the show down - it would become one-dimensional. He would basically be a Tuco with a degree in chemistry - a lot of the dynamics would be lost.
He wouldn't be Tuco.

He'd be calculating, ruthless Michael Corleone.



As for the Jesse being a bad cook business - of course he has little idea what he's doing. These people blow themselves up all the time.
05-12-2009 , 11:13 PM
lol half the people in my PhD chemistry program had no idea what they were doing in lab.
05-12-2009 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by burkoboy
He could get in really deep with dealing drugs, then his cancer goes away and hes in too deep to get out of it...

that could get interesting quickly
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Originally Posted by EHoffman
Except he has very progressed terminal lung cancer...
Just want to point out that i made this post on april 18th ahhhthankya especially after people post things like this after it



anyway, show is getting awesome very quickly and I hate speculating so I just want to enjoy every second and let them develop it.


Jessie has just been priceless in these past few episodes....

When he said "robot" was awesome
when he said "wire" was awesome
and when he sighed and was like **** when walt said he had the radiation coughing sickness.....

**** priceless
05-13-2009 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by private joker
Not crazy about how the Skyler/boss subplot is being explored. I hope it improves, but so far it's dragging down the show by being all setup and very little movement.
it'll all be worth it when walt beats banneke into a coma.
05-13-2009 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy
I find Walt jr. ****ing annoying. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Palsy is only a physical disability, not a mental one as well, right? Could you imagine a normal high school kid being as lame and passive as Walt jr?
Even if this were true (which it isn't), you don't think having ****ing CP could have an impact on him having a lame and passive personality in high school? Are you serious?
05-13-2009 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CheckRaise
rofl at jessie's hero characters especially the rewindo guy
Him still trying to explain, after 4 years, how that is a power was very funny.

The girl had too much face time this episode, she's kinda boring.

Anyone know how many episodes this season is?
05-13-2009 , 05:58 AM
13 according to wiki.
05-13-2009 , 05:58 AM
13 according to imdb. only 3 eps left?

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05-13-2009 , 04:51 PM
I think the forum is missing out heavily on the first 30seconds of the last show. Where you see evidence being gathered. The mexican cartel has taken note (mentioned in pre eps) so my take of this intro is that we be the start of the final eps. Walt Jr and Skyler will be killed by a car bomb (hank mentioned thats how the cartel do their dirty work) bc cartel has to send a message to heitzeberg.

just hunch but lets see where it goes. this would build on the more scareface change we may see.

Would enjoy hearing your thoughts on the opening 30 seconds.
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