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I was way behind this season and now I'm up to "The Fly". I wanted to see what people were saying about the last 4-5 eps so I jumped in in the middle and started reading.
I miss a ton of stuff watching tv/movies so I'm far from an expert but it's so tilting how many people have ridiculous beefs with the plot, especially some character behaviour. People aren't 1-dimensional. People sometimes react to a situation emotionally and say things they don't mean. People can have multiple (even conflicting) reasons for doing something.
I didn't read the start of the thread so I guess I missed most of the Skylar hate, but oh my, some of you guys have some deep-rooted issues with women! Oh, and, really don't seem to get how much Walt's behaviour would appall the average, intelligent, person. Not to mention, to some degree, he's risking their family's well-being, both physically and emotionally. It would be humiliating if Walt were caught.
/rant
Walt standing watching the RV get destroyed kinda ruined that scene for me. I think it would have been an amazing visual but I just can't believe Walt would stay there. I might be guility of the same thing I was just complaining about, but I just don't see any emotional attactment overriding Walt's need to not get caught by Hank. I don't really mind it as much after the fact, but I just couldn't get into while I watched.
Really well said. I think this is the main source of contention. The episode was executed near-perfectly but it just seems so implausible. I think my biggest qualm would be the manner they originally set out to kill Hank, and the gun flying into his reach (which was mitigated by him shooting at the vest).
I have no issue with buddy not getting out of the way of the vehicle and I think the other dude going for the axe was in-line with his character. Not kicking the gun away, etc, could eaasily be explained with the emotions involved with his cousin just being "killed", imo.
Such a great season so far, I can't believe I got so far behind. I just never want to be distracted and I know as soon as I watch 1 ep, I'm going to want to keep going.
edit. I thought Jesse's monologue and rant were awesome and executed really well. This guy has had so many good roles and he always nails it.
I miss a ton of stuff watching tv/movies so I'm far from an expert but it's so tilting how many people have ridiculous beefs with the plot, especially some character behaviour. People aren't 1-dimensional. People sometimes react to a situation emotionally and say things they don't mean. People can have multiple (even conflicting) reasons for doing something.
I didn't read the start of the thread so I guess I missed most of the Skylar hate, but oh my, some of you guys have some deep-rooted issues with women! Oh, and, really don't seem to get how much Walt's behaviour would appall the average, intelligent, person. Not to mention, to some degree, he's risking their family's well-being, both physically and emotionally. It would be humiliating if Walt were caught.
/rant
Walt standing watching the RV get destroyed kinda ruined that scene for me. I think it would have been an amazing visual but I just can't believe Walt would stay there. I might be guility of the same thing I was just complaining about, but I just don't see any emotional attactment overriding Walt's need to not get caught by Hank. I don't really mind it as much after the fact, but I just couldn't get into while I watched.
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Only a show so viscerally exciting and dramatically juiced up can get its fans in such a tizzy over everything, and the two quotes above show just how polarizing the show can be sometimes. In that way this episode was a lot like 2.13 which split everyone down the middle.
I actually loved Aaron Paul in this episode. His venom-spitting I'm-gonna-git-u-sucka monologue about Hank was really bad-ass and I thought he delivered it well. The more vulnerable lost-soul-scorned-son spite rant to Walt was equally well delivered and carried further by a great makeup job.
The last 10 minutes could not have been more beautifully directed imo. Hank hears the boss say "maybe you've got a guardian angel" and then steps into the closing elevator doors and you're like oh-crap-he-gonna-get-whacked. Then the walk through the parking lot builds suspense, the phone call kicks things off, and then melee.
At the time I was knocked out by how well done everything was. I absolutely had no idea what would happen. First I thought maybe the brothers aren't coming. Then they shot at him and I thought he'd die. Then he rammed brother #1 and I thought he'd get away. Then brother #2 went after him and shot Hank and I was sure he was dead. But then he walks away to get the axe and Hank finds the hollow point and I thought oh-snap mistake, ese. But then he couldn't load the gun in time and I figured Hank was done for, but then of course boom headshot.
By the time the dust settled and my heart rate went back to normal, I thought about the scene rationally and don't really like it. As someone else said, these brothers were ruthless killing machines and even though they'd never been too technically graceful, they've been characterized as effective. So it didn't make sense that they'd lose to an unarmed cop. And you could see the writers almost realized that and got Hank shot up pretty bad just when you thought he'd get away, but ultimately they'd rather continue the series with Hank than with the cousins.
I like that idea from the standpoint that we've come to know this character and Dean Norris is a better actor than the Moncados, but I don't like it from a storytelling perspective because in a show this darkly realistic, I'd expect Hank to get whacked right there. Too many convenient things had to happen for him to survive that gunfight. And the whole "nah, I won't shoot you, that's TOO EASY" excuse to save Hank's life was perilously close to horrible-TV-cliche. Bummed me out in retrospect. But damn was it well executed.
That's Ed, holy crap has Hank had a rough couple weeks!
I actually loved Aaron Paul in this episode. His venom-spitting I'm-gonna-git-u-sucka monologue about Hank was really bad-ass and I thought he delivered it well. The more vulnerable lost-soul-scorned-son spite rant to Walt was equally well delivered and carried further by a great makeup job.
The last 10 minutes could not have been more beautifully directed imo. Hank hears the boss say "maybe you've got a guardian angel" and then steps into the closing elevator doors and you're like oh-crap-he-gonna-get-whacked. Then the walk through the parking lot builds suspense, the phone call kicks things off, and then melee.
At the time I was knocked out by how well done everything was. I absolutely had no idea what would happen. First I thought maybe the brothers aren't coming. Then they shot at him and I thought he'd die. Then he rammed brother #1 and I thought he'd get away. Then brother #2 went after him and shot Hank and I was sure he was dead. But then he walks away to get the axe and Hank finds the hollow point and I thought oh-snap mistake, ese. But then he couldn't load the gun in time and I figured Hank was done for, but then of course boom headshot.
By the time the dust settled and my heart rate went back to normal, I thought about the scene rationally and don't really like it. As someone else said, these brothers were ruthless killing machines and even though they'd never been too technically graceful, they've been characterized as effective. So it didn't make sense that they'd lose to an unarmed cop. And you could see the writers almost realized that and got Hank shot up pretty bad just when you thought he'd get away, but ultimately they'd rather continue the series with Hank than with the cousins.
I like that idea from the standpoint that we've come to know this character and Dean Norris is a better actor than the Moncados, but I don't like it from a storytelling perspective because in a show this darkly realistic, I'd expect Hank to get whacked right there. Too many convenient things had to happen for him to survive that gunfight. And the whole "nah, I won't shoot you, that's TOO EASY" excuse to save Hank's life was perilously close to horrible-TV-cliche. Bummed me out in retrospect. But damn was it well executed.
That's Ed, holy crap has Hank had a rough couple weeks!
I have no issue with buddy not getting out of the way of the vehicle and I think the other dude going for the axe was in-line with his character. Not kicking the gun away, etc, could eaasily be explained with the emotions involved with his cousin just being "killed", imo.
Such a great season so far, I can't believe I got so far behind. I just never want to be distracted and I know as soon as I watch 1 ep, I'm going to want to keep going.
edit. I thought Jesse's monologue and rant were awesome and executed really well. This guy has had so many good roles and he always nails it.
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