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04-20-2010 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRempel
Complete speculation, but given we haven't had a big explosion yet this season, I think they come after Walt in the lab in the finale and **** goes kablooey.
So what happened with the truck in episode 1?

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Originally Posted by loosekanen
If you haven't watched The Wire yet you fail at life. That scene is like 7 years old. You want me to put any comparisons to The Godfather or Pulp Fiction in spoiler tags?
Yes. This is the Breaking Bad thread, everything else belongs in spoiler tags.
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04-20-2010 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
Maybe Gus is stocking up for when Walt is gone, but at the same time, you don't build a lab like that to only use it for three months-- .
Even if it's ~100mil worth? I rly don't know about the meth industry but that seems like a redic amount to sit on for a while.
04-20-2010 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRempel
we haven't had a big explosion yet this season
The cousins blowing up the truck in the first episode?
04-20-2010 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RacersEdge
they were selling it for $2500 an ounce iirc - so $40k per pound.

another thing that seems a little odd: i didn't see S1, but i find it hard to believe walt's cooking skill could be this rare - i mean he's a chemistry teacher, but he's not a Nobel prize winner - and if pollos has the expertise to set up a state of the art meth lab, it seems he could use the same expertise to figure out how to make the stuff especially if he had a sample.
Go watch S1 and pay attention to the flashbacks / Grey Matter stuff.
04-20-2010 , 12:17 PM
ok, so maybe there is more to Walt's knowledge than I am allowing
04-20-2010 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nutsflopper
Even if it's ~100mil worth? I rly don't know about the meth industry but that seems like a redic amount to sit on for a while.
I'm not sure what exactly you're saying in response to me. I think it's less likely that Gus is sitting on it and more likely that he plans to expand his business / get the formula from Walt so he can continue making it after Walt is gone. The real question is, does Gus' expanded meth venture cut the Cartel out of the meth business, or what?
04-20-2010 , 01:14 PM
Another great episode in a perfect (thus far) season. Cranston and Paul usually get all the acting plaudits but Anna Gunn was awesome in this episode. Letting Skyler in on Walt's secret has given Gunn a lot more material to play with and she is killing it. I assume this will be her episode submitted for emmy consideration and she is deserving of a nomination.
04-20-2010 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
I'm not sure what exactly you're saying in response to me. I think it's less likely that Gus is sitting on it and more likely that he plans to expand his business / get the formula from Walt so he can continue making it after Walt is gone. The real question is, does Gus' expanded meth venture cut the Cartel out of the meth business, or what?
Yea I wasn't clear. I'm just thinking 100mm of meth seems like more than enough to sit on w/out needing to expand for the foreseeable future/retirement or something unless I'm way underestimating the meth trade and his reach in it (or overestimating the reality the show wants to portray obv). I'm assuming this is what the 3 month/2400lb mark is for b/c keeping it running is too expensive to churn out excessive inventory and they want to get this production done asap. The lab cost is prob comparably insignificant but idk.

Also, I'm sure Gus and lab team would keep the formula after he's gone but for now 3mil seems reasonable on a 75-95mil or w/e production for any trusted master cook.
04-20-2010 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RacersEdge
they were selling it for $2500 an ounce iirc - so $40k per pound.

another thing that seems a little odd: i didn't see S1, but i find it hard to believe walt's cooking skill could be this rare - i mean he's a chemistry teacher, but he's not a Nobel prize winner - and if pollos has the expertise to set up a state of the art meth lab, it seems he could use the same expertise to figure out how to make the stuff especially if he had a sample.
I don't get why they need him that desperately either. But it is part of the perfection that Gus demands and Walt is capable of making the best on the market.
04-20-2010 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dw2006
Another great episode in a perfect (thus far) season. Cranston and Paul usually get all the acting plaudits but Anna Gunn was awesome in this episode. Letting Skyler in on Walt's secret has given Gunn a lot more material to play with and she is killing it. I assume this will be her episode submitted for emmy consideration and she is deserving of a nomination.
i agree. skyler has really stepped it up in the past few episodes
04-20-2010 , 04:28 PM
RE: Walt, I assume that while he's a very competent chemist, he's not that special now that his discovery is commercialized (Grey matter). I mostly assume that the labour market for highly educated chemists with practice experience, who are willing to cook methamphetamine, is quite small.
04-20-2010 , 05:22 PM
And you can't exactly post a job opening on monster.
04-21-2010 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim14Qc
RE: Walt, I assume that while he's a very competent chemist, he's not that special now that his discovery is commercialized (Grey matter). I mostly assume that the labour market for highly educated chemists with practice experience, who are willing to cook methamphetamine, is quite small.
Exactly, I assume most of the meth cookers us relatively primitive chemistry compared to Walts chemistry expertise.

Random speculation here, but one possibility is if Jesse becomes a liability in some way, Gus/Walt pass the blame on Jesse for Tucco's death.
04-21-2010 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tmfs
Random speculation here, but one possibility is if Jesse becomes a liability in some way, Gus/Walt pass the blame on Jesse for Tucco's death.
It's a good thing that the cousins don't have a blood relative to tell them specifically who was involved in Tuco's death. Like, it's not like they have someone they can trust to give them an exact name to go with their accurate sketch. Otherwise they might find his house and find pictures to verify his identity. Thank God nobody saw Walt try and poison Tuco. Everything about these characters indicates they will just accept a substitute for sacrifice. This is just an errand for them - not some religious duty. Maybe Pollos and Saul can pay that old bald guy to take a few whacks with an ax. Problem solved.
04-21-2010 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by shane88888
It's a good thing that the cousins don't have a blood relative to tell them specifically who was involved in Tuco's death. Like, it's not like they have someone they can trust to give them an exact name to go with their accurate sketch. Otherwise they might find his house and find pictures to verify his identity. Thank God nobody saw Walt try and poison Tuco. Everything about these characters indicates they will just accept a substitute for sacrifice. This is just an errand for them - not some religious duty. Maybe Pollos and Saul can pay that old bald guy to take a few whacks with an ax. Problem solved.
Jesse was there when Tuco died and just as responsible for his death. The old man doesn't know who actually killed Tuco just that Walter White was there.
04-21-2010 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
The cousins blowing up the truck in the first episode?
Oops.
04-21-2010 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tmfs
Jesse was there when Tuco died and just as responsible for his death. The old man doesn't know who actually killed Tuco just that Walter White was there.
This is why the American TV-viewing public can't have nice things.
04-21-2010 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by shane88888
This is why the American TV-viewing public can't have nice things.
Lol keep on being a smug douche bag and taking TV shows way too serious. I wasn't speculating on what would be the greatest TV, just guessing a way the writers might wrap up two problems into one. Cause A the Mexican twins aren't going anywhere without revenge and B they're not going to kill Walt.
04-21-2010 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by shane88888
This is why the American TV-viewing public can't have nice things.
Is there any area that puts out better shows than America? Please inform me if so. I am willing to learn. Perhaps you could tell us of the shows where you are from. That may start my learning process as an unworthy American.
04-21-2010 , 10:44 AM
The fact that people are taking shane's joke literally proves his point.
04-21-2010 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RacersEdge
they were selling it for $2500 an ounce iirc - so $40k per pound.

another thing that seems a little odd: i didn't see S1, but i find it hard to believe walt's cooking skill could be this rare - i mean he's a chemistry teacher, but he's not a Nobel prize winner - and if pollos has the expertise to set up a state of the art meth lab, it seems he could use the same expertise to figure out how to make the stuff especially if he had a sample.
If this is true, Walt is earning just over 3% of gross revenue for his 3 month contract. He should hold out for more imo.
04-21-2010 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tmfs
Random speculation here, but one possibility is if Jesse becomes a liability in some way, Gus/Walt pass the blame on Jesse for Tucco's death.
Remember, Hank actually killed Tuco. I wonder if that ever comes
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Originally Posted by tmfs
B they're not going to kill Walt.
You sure about that?
04-21-2010 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by imakefrush
If this is true, Walt is earning just over 3% of gross revenue for his 3 month contract. He should hold out for more imo.
Same thought tbh.
And I think the previous poster meant the price they were selling the meth to someone who sold it on the street. So the street value is even higher.
04-21-2010 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by imakefrush
If this is true, Walt is earning just over 3% of gross revenue for his 3 month contract. He should hold out for more imo.
The real risk and danger is in distribution as we saw from Walt/Jesse initially trying to sell it themselves. Then their partnership with Tuco. Even the first foray with Pollos was frought with peril. Needing to come up with your own supplies (ie stealing that barrel). Just sitting in a (assumed safe) state of the art lab given all the needed supplies and cooking for 3 million sounds like a real easy gig comparitively.
04-21-2010 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
The real risk and danger is in distribution as we saw from Walt/Jesse initially trying to sell it themselves. Then their partnership with Tuco. Even the first foray with Pollos was frought with peril. Needing to come up with your own supplies (ie stealing that barrel). Just sitting in a (assumed safe) state of the art lab given all the needed supplies and cooking for 3 million sounds like a real easy gig comparitively.
He still does a lot of the work. I dont think he should get 50M, but closer to 10.
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