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10-11-2009 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mjw0586
Perhaps, but I trust Rich Rod's judgment when it comes to handling the quarterbacks. I just don't think anyone can call it an egregious error without knowing more about the situation. There's a good chance Tate was sick or hurt tonight, imo.
If Tate is not hurt/sick, it is an egregious error. There was 1:39 seconds left, we had no TOs. 80% of Denard's strengths are immediately off the table. Put 4 minutes left and RichRod now has a strong case for playing Denard. Nevertheless, in the current situation, a rattled Forcier clearly is the better option than a Denard that really can't run, who has made bad decisions all year in the air. This is not even close. If I find out that Forcier was not injured, I won't just conclude that this was a horrible decision by RichRod. I will seriously wonder if he's bipolar because stupidity alone cannot account for this action.
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10-11-2009 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
we don't have time for what he's good at though. We have to pass in that spot, and he's not ready to lead that kind of drive
Exactly.
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10-11-2009 , 12:06 AM
They looked much better tonight than they did last week and against a better team no less. They turned the ball over five times and still had a chance to beat a 5-0 team on the road. They're still way ahead of where I thought they would be at this point. The sky's the limit.

What a frustrating game.
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10-11-2009 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
I don't blame denard for that int at all. It is the coach's job to put his players in spots where they can succeed. That was not playing to Denard's strength.
You went to far here. Make that int play 3rd and 10 and I'm with you. On 2nd and 3, Denard should be aware enough to know that he should just run for the 1st down if no one is open. There is absolutely no reason to force anything in that spot. However, the very fact that he did just that does point to how horrible of a decision it was for RichRod to put him out there to begin with. But we have to put some blame on Dernard for that ******ed decision.
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10-11-2009 , 12:13 AM
Remember when Beilein benched Manny late in the Iowa game and everyone got pissed?

I was one of those people.

Oh, the parallels continue
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10-11-2009 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
Forcier looked below average all night. Robinson to that point had played better. Logic says you put in the player that played better. Logic also says you play the guy who has led you down the field in numerous clutch situations. Rod made a decision and went with it.
Your argument only makes sense if there was 4min to play instead of 1:39min.

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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
Shouldn't even have been in that position anyway. Forcier gave the ball away twice, the Minor fumble when we had a good drive going before half, then the punt return and the chain of events that followed. Take out those mistakes (and even the Warren INT), and IMO we outplayed them. If it's at home, maybe you can get away with those mistakes, but not on the road.
Yes this Michigan team is not that good. They are capable of beating themselves every game. I'm officially off the Kool-Aid now.
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10-11-2009 , 12:16 AM
I just watched some of the presser on BTN. Rod said that there were no words between he and Tate. There is no issue there. They had a plan to use Denard at some point in the game and had a plan for how they were to going to use them. An opportunity just didn't materialize until late. They went ahead with the change late because they had good field position, Tate was struggling, and they thought Denard could give them a spark. He did and so they went with him again.

He also asked the press not to try to create a story where there is no story. He has two outstanding QBs and he put the one in that he thought gave them the best chance to win. That's more or less what he said.
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10-11-2009 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
Yes this Michigan team is not that good. They are capable of beating themselves every game. I'm officially off the Kool-Aid now.
How good did you expect them to be? I see a team that is capable of hanging with every team left on the schedule. No way did I feel that way six weeks ago. The improvement from last year to now is pretty remarkable, imo.
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10-11-2009 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
How good did you expect them to be?
Truthfully, I thought they had a great chance at winning 9 games, and a decent chance at 10.
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10-11-2009 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
I see a team that is capable of hanging with every team left on the schedule. No way did I feel that way six weeks ago. The improvement from last year to now is pretty remarkable, imo.
I agree with everything written here. We can beat anybody on our schedule. Problem is we can lose to anybody too except for Delaware St.
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10-11-2009 , 12:21 AM
we could be 6-0, we could be 2-4.... 4-2 seems fair.

sigh we are a young, young team with young, young qbs. Have to keep perspective. After next week we'll be 5-2 and hopefully improving.

Ezeh looked good tonight, I was impressed with our cbs as well.
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10-11-2009 , 12:22 AM
Ricky Stanzi is pretty awful, we can say that much. There's no way Iowa beats Ohio State with the way threw the ball today.
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10-11-2009 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mjw0586
Remember when Beilein benched Manny late in the Iowa game and everyone got pissed?

I was one of those people.

Oh, the parallels continue
Bump
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10-11-2009 , 12:25 AM
Can you explain what point you are trying to make mjw? Because it's either alluding me or not a good one.
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10-11-2009 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
I just watched some of the presser on BTN. Rod said that there were no words between he and Tate. There is no issue there. They had a plan to use Denard at some point in the game and had a plan for how they were to going to use them. An opportunity just didn't materialize until late. They went ahead with the change late because they had good field position, Tate was struggling, and they thought Denard could give them a spark. He did and so they went with him again.

He also asked the press not to try to create a story where there is no story. He has two outstanding QBs and he put the one in that he thought gave them the best chance to win. That's more or less what he said.
Well that's it. I no longer believe in RichRod on the decision making front. IOW, I officially think he's a mediocre coach in this area. The fact that he didn't QB sneak last week on 4th and an inch, and now this inexplicable decision to go with a QB, who hasn't done anything all year through the air, to win a very important game is enough to for me to say this.

I still believe in his football philosophy. I hope he'll be a good recruiter. But he's still an idiot in my book.
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10-11-2009 , 12:26 AM
Michigan coach benches his best player in the late moments of a game against Iowa. Michigan loses the game. Michigan fans get pissed.

Maybe the West Virginia boys know what they're doing.
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10-11-2009 , 12:27 AM
That benching sent a lesson to Manny Harris. I'm not entirely sure that Tate's head was fully in the game tonight. Maybe he needed a lesson too. Just a possibility
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10-11-2009 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Can you explain what point you are trying to make mjw? Because it's either alluding me or not a good one.
Yes, Beilein made a bad decision too so ****ing what. RichRod's decision is worse if only because college football is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> college basketball.
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10-11-2009 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mjw0586
That benching sent a lesson to Manny Harris.
Results for the win huh.
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10-11-2009 , 12:30 AM
lol, Beilein made a bad decision... yes, that was the point. I hope you're hammered. If not, you're just dumb.
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10-11-2009 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
Well that's it. I no longer believe in RichRod on the decision making front. IOW, I officially think he's a mediocre coach in this area.
LOL

I don't agree with the decision, either, but I'll reserve judgment until he makes a call I don't agree with when we're playing in the 2011 MNC game. Then there will be hell to pay.

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10-11-2009 , 12:32 AM
Tate wasn't being punished for not following a coach. RR went with DR because he was successful the previous drive and asked him to do things DR was not ready to do. This wasn't a discipline issue.
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10-11-2009 , 12:33 AM
Driving back from the game. Too many mistakes, easy to get down, but tons to be excited about. Were ahead of schedule.
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10-11-2009 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
LOL

I don't agree with the decision, either, but I'll reserve judgment until he makes a call I don't agree with when we're playing in the 2011 MNC game. Then there will be hell to pay.

This makes no sense to me. We already have enough information to conclude that RichRod has some screws loose. You don't think Michigan had plenty to play for tonight? We all know that this Michigan team can beat anyone on their schedule. Losing to Iowa virtually eliminates us from a Big Ten race we could have won. There is no excuse for RichRod tonight.
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10-11-2009 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Tate wasn't being punished for not following a coach. RR went with DR because he was successful the previous drive and asked him to do things DR was not ready to do. This wasn't a discipline issue.
Right, and I will conclude that anyone who is ok with this, with 1:39 to play and no TOs, doesn't know much about football.
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