Ok i watched it for 5 min but its just a guy telling a made up story without any proof to back anything up.

"V" did for lizardmen what "X-files" did for Grays imo.

Best thread ever imo.

OP - David Icke is the man for you.

I was contacted by aliens that looked very much like humans. The notable difference was a flap of webbing between the thumb and the forefinger. I found Alex's claim that humans are spread throughout the universe intriguing.

Astronomy nit: Stu is right that the same side of the moon always faces the Earth. But that is not the light side. I realize that dark side of the moon may be used metaphorically to refer to the far, unseen side of the moon, but many people believe it is literally true - that the far side of the moon is always dark. Carry on.

I almost want to watch the video now. Just for the lolz.

As far as I can tell, OP's thoughts are distilled down into this.

Many things are wrong with the world today
Aliens/Lizards are the secret cause of those things
Yes the details sound ridiculous, but look at the big picture

I believe that's as kindly as I can put it.

I'm at work with a computer with no sound. Majin, could you answer the following?

1) Does this man provide ANY evidence for his claims?
2) Has anyone else provided ANY evidence for his claims?
3) could his message about what is beneficial for mankind be worthwhile of consideration without any of the alien part being true?
4) What probability to you assign to the following:

a) he is describing actual facts
b) he is severely deluded
c) he is consciously trying to deceive people

I'm not making fun, when presented with such extraordinary claims, we must consider all of that.

Believing that will happen is a lot further out there than believing in aliens.

lol, I'm not going to sugar-coat anything for either of you

I love how so many people claim to be in contact with aliens who have been gracious enough to pass along grandoise theories and advice about human society, but are unwilling to provide any evidence of their existence. If these aliens were genuinely concerned with what was transpiring on earth, and did indeed to make some previously unknown crackpot 'their messenger', at the very least they could arm him with a minimal amount of evidence. Surely the aliens are smart enough to realize that, lacking any evidence, most people will just laugh at their chosen messenger?

How about this, if Mr. Collier is still in contact with these mentally and technologically superior aliens, he should ask them to consult their version of wikipedia, and hand him the proof to one of these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsolve...in_mathematics.

That's all it would take.

Wouldn't it just be awesome if this was real?

If I could choose my own reality, I think Santa Claus would be cooler than alien conspiracy stories, but maybe I just like free crap too much.

I posted ridicule in another majin alien thread and was told to GTFO, lol. This guy is serious with all this stuff, he fully believes it even though its obviously all a load.

i havent slept in 36 hours, and i need to stay up atleast 8 more. so ill give it a fair watching right now. also to note, i used to believe in aliens, ufos, loch ness, ghosts, all that stuff.

just started watching.

when thinking about these kinds of things, i find it helpful to keep in mind just how big the universe is. im pretty sure andromeda is 2.5m light years away. which is unfathomably far. if we could build ships that travelled on light particles and required no fuel (lawl to both) it still would take forever just to get here once.

anyways, ill continue watching

Dude, you do have some funny ideas

Umm, killing each other is basically a way of life on Earth and it should be. It's natural. We did before we were smart enough moralise on our behaviour and we'll do most likely for the entire duration of our species existance.

Nasty people do nasty s**t, to expect them to do otherwise is not very smart. Many people live on the streets due to their own choice and their own free will. You seem to have quite a clouded worldview despite an open mindedness towards some pretty far fetched ideas. Why bother with all the alien gumpf when you can simply moralise about society's ills from an established fairy story (insert religion of choice) instead??

pausing in video one. he says there are 28 different races there. its my understanding that the concept of race isnt actually rooted in biology, and there is no scientific backing for the way we group people into races. its a social construct, and a very crude one at that...one that is slowly slowly dying.

and yet this world he speaks of is thousands of "spiritual years" ahead of us. etc. and they still have the concept of race with them? sounds archaic, not advanced.

If I read the info correctly he alleges Andromeda constellation which contains many stars much closer than Andromeda galaxy. Not that I think this is plausible under any point of origin.

on video 2.

its amazing how much these guys are like humans. they are born (birthing process,) they go to school (but for a lot longer), 4-8 ft tall, art and music is important to them.

humans have a terrible imagination.

edit: to tie this into RGT...i think the same thing about humans conception of heaven/hell. its a testament to religion being entirely man made that nothing in our holy books could not be thought of by our meek imaginations.

their goal is "to be completely at one with all there is at all times."

you could pull that out of any east asian philosophical text.

onto video 3. god this is boring. so far he hasnt said anything that i havent heard said elsewhere in some new age book. all of it is exactly along these lines.

i cant wait for the interviewer to ask him "so how do you know all of this stuff?"

yessss. finally some fun stuff.

1:30 into video 3 he says the andromeda council was started after the Orion Wars which lasted 600,000 years.

i like how new sci-fi thinkers go with the super long time frames for dramatic effect. L Ron Hubbard, eat your heart out.

ummm....7:58 in video #3

"we have to do this by 2001." ::said with sincerity::

that doesnt bother you at all about the veracity of this guys claims OP?

It is far more basic than this; we don't even need this explanation. The reason the idea that the moon was brought to us from Ursa Minor is less believable than the dark side of the moon being permanently faced away from the face of the earth is because we can observe that the same side of the moon is always facing the earth.

Why is that?