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Old 02-08-2015, 09:37 PM   #201
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

[QUOTE=River_Rat92;46040599]Ok guys! i promised you pictures so here they are.
Ill go over my entire night Monday so you get a feel of everything i did.
Unfortunately i still haven't hit the tables, just been to busy and tired.


So when i was working Monday i served this Korean girl that was extremely nice but could speak very little English. She didn't know our good rolls and sushi so i helped her but talking slowly and writing down stuff on a piece of paper to help her out. She ended up giving me her number and asking if i could show her around Vegas, Of course!


We ended up watching the water show, which may i say .. BEAUTIFUL.
Cant believe i hadnt had a chance to see it before, it was amazing.


I then decided i would take her to Fremont st.. I think it is one of the coolest spots in Vegas, and wow did we have a good time. She just couldn't believe all the cool stuff that was happening and all the stuff we could do. I was pretty happy to show someone such a good time.


We hung out until about midnight before i had to part ways and goto "XS". She couldn't even explain how happy she was that i showed her all this stuff on her last day in America. It felt pretty good, and we ended up ending the night with a kiss on the top of the stratosphere(Were her hotel was) looking over the night lights of "Las Vegas". Couldn't of been more perfect. (Usually not the biggest Asian person but she was fun and cute i couldn't help myself).


So I finally get to "XS", To see my managers playing $25 min black jack with over a grand on the table. (My managers are young rich guys). Everyone looking top notch and ready to party. We get escorted into the club to our table, to only see 4 Bottles of grey goose and a bunch of nice mixtures to make some drinks with. Hands down the best club Ive ever been to in my life. They had the most updated music and what looked to be the Biggest ballers and most beautiful women in Vegas.

I wish i had a group picture of all of us, although my co-worker hasnt sent me the pictures yet.

Other then that, Probably the best night Ive had in Vegas since i moved here.
You give me that once a week, a winning week of poker and I'm a happy man. Thats all i got for now, i have tomorrow off and am itching to get back on those tables!

PEACE

-RiverRat[what are you in freakn middle school you shouldve taken her back to her room and banged the **** out of her
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Old 02-08-2015, 10:40 PM   #202
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

Haha, i know. Only made out which she seemed fine with, then right when id go for the kill she'd push me away.

Its unfortunate cause Ive never been with an Asian.
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Old 02-08-2015, 10:42 PM   #203
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Weird hand. Jacks don't really make that much sense, because why would he not continue on the flop if he were the pre-flop aggressor? Why risk letting it check all the way around with a vulnerable over-pair multi-way? I would never like 'trapping' with this hand, and would much prefer thin the field. If I get it heads-up, just try to get to showdown and take a nice pot. I actually think he could have legitimately had J-10 and was reading you as a nit that wouldn't have called a big raise pre with a low pair that hit a set and knew you'd fold any non-set. Just my thought.

If you ever thought you had the best hand on the flop, it's much better to shove instead of flat call. I don't hate calling $35 more, given the great pot odds, but obviously you have to think there's a good chance you are ahead if you are doing so. When you turn a straight draw, I think if you're willing to call the flop, thinking you might be ahead, you have to call the shove honestly. Other wise, fold the flop.

I'm never putting him on an over-pair when he raises big pre, checks the flop into what 4 players, then min-raises. If he's a grinder, he wouldn't take this line with jacks or really any over-pair. He simply saw a spot and took it. Or I'm putting him on a set of 7's, maybe 5's. Since he showed a J, that eliminates those. You got schooled, sorry. lol
I was thinking the same tbh. The whole hand played so weird.
I believe i got bluffed but overall if i played the same hand over and over i think id lose money in the long run.'

Feels so good to get school out of money, let me tell you... lol
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Old 02-09-2015, 02:30 AM   #204
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

How much did he have and you have behind when he shoved the turn? If you were playing deeper, I definitely don't mind calling $35 to peel the turn with juicy pot odds, and great implied odds if we are beat, because we can win a huge pot if we bink. He might also give up when we flat the flop and he is on air, so an 8 should have been a good card for that to happen.

If he's shoving the turn, I feel like he is playing deep, and you probably have ~$150 behind on the turn? If that's anywhere close, I think we have to either find the fold on the flop, or shove the flop, dependent on your read. There's really no calling the flop with that stack size if it were.
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Old 02-09-2015, 04:05 AM   #205
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

your exactly right i was sitting around 140-160 after call on flop
i wanted the shove, but 4 Handed it just seemed he must of had atleast 10's with the big check raise on a dry board.
I called to see if he would slow down on turn, then pops it instantly.

I almost decided hey.. if hes got me beat hes got me beat.
I just dont know why he wanted to get crazy with J10, if he did.
And also, i played a tight image at the table so it just felt like it had to be an over.
2 hands i played i hit top 2 on flop then boated on other.
Just because my bankroll isnt that high right now i folded, usually id snap shove/call depending on circumstances.

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Old 02-09-2015, 12:22 PM   #206
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

Please stop leveling yourself. If he had JT he would have gladly showed you both if he wanted to show a bluff. A huge part of poker is confidence, don't believe a word these idiots say at the table. Trust your read that he had an overpair. It's about 50x more likely that he had jj.
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Old 02-09-2015, 03:24 PM   #207
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Please stop leveling yourself. If he had JT he would have gladly showed you both if he wanted to show a bluff. A huge part of poker is confidence, don't believe a word these idiots say at the table. Trust your read that he had an overpair. It's about 50x more likely that he had jj.
What about this line makes you think any competent regular player has jacks on a 7-4-2 rainbow flop, then min-raising? I can possibly (maybe 2% of me) see him playing it cautious and check-calling the flop, but even then, there's not one good reason to not continue himself with the betting lead, and either take the pot down, or get heads-up and to showdown.

If OP claimed that V was a drunk LAG fish playing every hand, I can believe it. He said he was a reg that was playing tight so far. Also, OP had a tighter image. You don't think a good player won't use that to his advantage? That's why he'd play back at you with J-10, RR. He's using his read of you as a tight player, combined with his own table image and knows you have to have a set to call his turn shove and if you had a big over-pair, you'd have 3-bet pre. He probably put you on the exact type of hand (10's or 9's, obviously not 8's) and knew you'd lay it down.

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Old 02-09-2015, 09:54 PM   #208
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

Not going to go back and forth, but I am 100% sure no matter what villain had he's not a solid regular given his line.
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:23 PM   #209
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

Who gives a **** yall quit jacking dudes thread
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:30 PM   #210
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Not going to go back and forth, but I am 100% sure no matter what villain had he's not a solid regular given his line.
I was thinking the same thing to be honest, but even any kind of rec player that is semi-competent doesn't take that line with jacks. That is just lolawful.
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Old 02-10-2015, 02:03 PM   #211
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

its really hard not to troll OP on his "hand analysis"
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Old 02-12-2015, 09:19 AM   #212
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

Love this thread.

River Rat is a hero imo.
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Old 02-12-2015, 08:02 PM   #213
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

Alright guys back from a session at the Red Rock, and all i have to say is..

GOD DAMN FLUSH DRAWS.

I buy in for 160, and play tight for a solid hour or so.
My table is somewhat loose and 7 handed.

I get Kings in LP 1 from button, 1 limper and every else folds.
I raise it too 10, see if i can get 1-2 callers.

I get 1 caller from BB.

Flop comes ...

257
BB checks..
I raise 20, (have no intention of slow playing). (Pot is about 20-24).
He raises it up to $60ish. (How is was playing throughout the session he wouldn't of raised me with a set on flop)
Figure hes on a paired flush draw or just the flush.
I push without hesitation.(Guy was playing real loose, and also i was somewhat short stacked)
Guy snap calls.

He shows A9, one of the hands i wanted him to have TBH.

Turn comes ...
10 SWEETTTTTTTT.

Aggravated because i just cant find a winning session to save my life.


My Bankroll is $900 All those winning sessions, For nothing.
Back to ground zero, but I will not stop. I came here to win, and WILL not let a couple losing sessions destroy my mentality!

(Also, comments on the push? Good or bad without knowing villains whole cards. Remember if i peeled the 60, i was going all in on turn anyways. Priced in at that point.)

Good news is ...

TAX SEASON BABY. I am getting around 1500 back from that, and am planning on putting a good 800+ in the ROLL to make sure i don't bust!

And i birdied a Par 5, 2 days ago.

I dont wanna let you guys down, So CHEEERS And lets GRIND THEM F*CKING TABLES.

-RiverRat92

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Old 02-12-2015, 09:46 PM   #214
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He shows A9, one of the hands i wanted him to have TBH.



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why exactly do you want him to have this hand?

do you know what your equity is v this specific holding?
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:10 PM   #215
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

And you are surprised you lost? :coinflip:

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Old 02-12-2015, 10:29 PM   #216
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And therein lies the danger of buying in short.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:54 PM   #217
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I agree, with my stack size though its a push or fold moment.
No doubt when you put odds together on the exact hand its close to a coin but he could be pushing with Top pair,lower flush, a paired str8 draw, or a lower over pair. (He was deep stack and called from BB).
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Old 02-12-2015, 11:06 PM   #218
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BB checks..
I raise 20, (have no intention of slow playing). (Pot is about 20-24).
He raises it up to $60ish. (How is was playing throughout the session he wouldn't of raised me with a set on flop)
Why do you think he wouldn't raise you with a set on this board. Maybe you have A9 in his range on you??
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Old 02-12-2015, 11:58 PM   #219
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Figure hes on a paired flush draw or just the flush.
I push without hesitation.(Guy was playing real loose, and also i was somewhat short stacked)
Your read was right, you pressed with a slight advantage, and it didn't work out. That's poker
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I think CowboyCold ignores my post but if he doesn't I agree wholeheart on this one with him. You were hoping for a total coin flip?
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And therein lies the danger of buying in short.
? are you saying this guy folds with bigger stacks? or he wouldn't have pressed as hard? I'd say having the 80bb stack lets him push here and possibly get a fold which is desirable with a coin flip but not so much if he's on a smaller flush draw
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Old 02-13-2015, 12:25 AM   #222
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Yea pretty much this guy played many hands,
so i put his range of hands very light.

I push cause my range of hands on him i was dominating. I didnt wish for the nut flush draw but i figured he was on big draw, or hit top pair with 78s.

(he defended BB)
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I think CowboyCold ignores my post but if he doesn't I agree wholeheart on this one with him. You were hoping for a total coin flip?
I never put you on ignore or anyone else for that matter. And I must admit that you have become one of my favorite posters. The right balance of troll, dry humor and pertinent information. Damn! That sounds like a back handed compliment if I ever heard one. Ooops. Seriously, I like your style now. And the fact you seem to have distanced from Jim_Beam. Damn, I did it again....
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I never put you on ignore or anyone else for that matter. And I must admit that you have become one of my favorite posters. The right balance of troll, dry humor and pertinent information. Damn! That sounds like a back handed compliment if I ever heard one. Ooops. Seriously, I like your style now. And the fact you seem to have distanced from Jim_Beam. Damn, I did it again....
I stopped posting drunk, that probably changed a lot. I've learned a lot about the forums and the diverse people who use it. I appreciate the backhanded compliment
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:45 PM   #225
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Re: Won't Stop, Can't Stop! "The Life of a VEGAS Grinder"

Hey guys since my bankroll is getting smaller, I have a suggestion i might add to this thread.

Im not worried of going busto with taxes+income but think this might be a better option until i reach a more suitable bankroll for the 1/2.

So im thinking about starting a stream on MTT grinding + Micro stakes cash game online. (Mostly MTT).
I plan to deposit around $1,000 and do $1-10 MTTs, and 5-10c Cash games

This would only be temporarily until i can play every day without the huge downswings at Live Cash Games.

Tell me what you think guys!
(I would still be doing LIVE Cash game 2 times a week, just not as common if i start stream)
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