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Old 01-26-2015, 03:15 AM   #101
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Ok back from the RED ROCK, AND HOLY SH*T.
Biggest pot ive ever played so far, $600ish.

Im on the button with KK
There are 3 Limpers behide me, and very tight table.
I decide to bet 12, considering the last time i had KK on this table a 15 took down the pot preflop (Wasnt very happy with that).

2 Villians call and im in position.
Flop comes...

Q 5 9
Check, check and now to me. I decide to bet 50 to take it down, hate playing over pairs. I get 1 caller, and other villian folds.

Turn comes ...
A (Mother F*cker!)

Villian checks.. I bet 80 in hopes of repping a big ace.
VILLIAN SNAPS ALL IN... I put him on a flush draw and have a feeling hes using the ace to push me off a big pair (It was pretty obvious i had a big over).

I tank for a good 2 mins, villian looks weak (Exactly what he wanted me to think) i m sitting with about 100 with a 400+ pot.

**** it, if hes got the ace good hand.
I CALL. He flops over A J. JUST ****ING GREAT.
1 out in the deck only the K wins it.

River comes ...
THE FU*KING CASE KING.. K

Almost had a heart attack and decided to leave, too much for me in one day.
Cashed out with just over 600. +300 (First buy in with 300)

$ BANKROLL: $1805

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Old 01-26-2015, 03:39 AM   #102
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:50 AM   #103
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Can you introduce me to Christy Mack? Tell her I'm a badass!
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:02 AM   #104
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$HARRAH's Session Success$

Met up with degen55 and decided to hit more hours today, heck its my day off!
My table was 7/10 tourists POCKETS DEEP. Calling station for traps. LOT of suck outs too thou guy ended up winning with 8 high for 600+.

2 big pots with some sick cards, trapped a guy with a set of fours to double off my 200$ buy in. turn pushed and got him to call with K Q, Q being top pair.

Then Degen came over to my table, i look down at my cards only to see "THe BULLETS". I show degen a glipse and throw 20$ in the pot. Ended up flopping top set, then turning a boat. NO one really hit but ended up with like 160 off the pot or so.

Ill definitely will be back to harrahs, so much action.

(Funny note i forgot, 2 days ago i was taking a picture of my chips trying to not look obvious then, BOOM flash comes on LMAO.)

Other then that i have to work in 5 hours so i should probably goto bed.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:10 PM   #105
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I think Harrahs is one of the easiest rooms on the strip. Not sure why more people do not play there. Nice win!
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:00 PM   #106
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$HARRAH's Session Success$

Met up with degen55 and decided to hit more hours today, heck its my day off!
My table was 7/10 tourists POCKETS DEEP. Calling station for traps. LOT of suck outs too thou guy ended up winning with 8 high for 600+.

2 big pots with some sick cards, trapped a guy with a set of fours to double off my 200$ buy in. turn pushed and got him to call with K Q, Q being top pair.

Then Degen came over to my table, i look down at my cards only to see "THe BULLETS". I show degen a glipse and throw 20$ in the pot. Ended up flopping top set, then turning a boat. NO one really hit but ended up with like 160 off the pot or so.

Ill definitely will be back to harrahs, so much action.

(Funny note i forgot, 2 days ago i was taking a picture of my chips trying to not look obvious then, BOOM flash comes on LMAO.)

Other then that i have to work in 5 hours so i should probably goto bed.
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whats up man enjoy reading your thread I like playing at Harrah's also when im in town..... Just wait til during the WSOP sick games. I bought in to a 2-5 nl with 200 and ran it up to 4k.... enjoy flopping all those sets while you can I haven't flopped a set in 6 months lol
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:34 PM   #107
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Confirmed Harrah's is soft. I intend to play there quite a bit. Such easy action, just hope people are deeper like in your game though.
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:21 PM   #108
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Confirmed Harrah's is soft. I intend to play there quite a bit. Such easy action, just hope people are deeper like in your game though.
Yea i couldn't believe it, just handing me money! People chasing gut shots and 2 pair hands left and right, insane. I will be going back tonight, Just got back from work but will update the BLOG once i get back.
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Yea i couldn't believe it, just handing me money! People chasing gut shots and 2 pair hands left and right, insane. I will be going back tonight, Just got back from work but will update the BLOG once i get back.
They also have that freeroll for like i think put in ten hours a week. Also have good dealers, i forgot her name but the decent looking chick is one of the best dealers in vegas
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:30 AM   #110
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Hey guys back from the session. Hit up Harrahs again to get some more action!
First hour i played with a somewhat nitty table, think i was +25 and decided to move tables. Got to the other table i was stomping yesterday and decided to play a nice High Variance Strategy. Well had some interesting hands, and end up being about +240. Then i got alittle carried away and with these "High variance hands" and ended up on the bad end of a the stick acouple times. (You win some, you lose some)



Ended up leaving Harrahs -95.
Mad at how i played cause this would of put me 2000+ and 4 winnings sessions in a row giving me a shot at 1 session of 2/5. Loving deep stack play so far although i do have some tweaks to adjust.

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Old 01-27-2015, 08:39 PM   #111
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Question guys!

Whats your view point on Medium Suited connectors, 67s,78s,89s,J10s?
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Question guys!

Whats your view point on Medium Suited connectors, 67s,78s,89s,J10s?

I'll play them in most situations, but I also am playing a cash game deeper than normal. Also, I trust my post-flop play to know when I only hit marginally that I can determine whether it is good or not.

Since I've seen you buying in $150-$200, I don't think it's good to ever be playing hands like this for an open of $10-$15 pre-flop. It also makes it harder for you to be the one to take control of a pot by raising pre to that area, as it doesn't allow you to fire a couple barrels at it if you feel you have to, unless you're making a decision whether or not to for nearly all your stack.

Only play them with frequency if you feel like you can quickly know where you are at when you hit, say 87 and the flop comes Q-7-3, facing a bet from an aggro pre-flop raiser in a 3-way pot. Can you consistently know if you are good there often enough to continue in the hand? If you feel that you are absolutely good in a spot like this (putting him on any A-x that missed, smaller pairs, or use a tight image to blow him off 8's thru J's), are you able to pull the trigger on it?

With $200 to start the hand, you have to figure you put in roughly $12 pre-flop and probably facing $25 on the flop, so you're getting into a spot where you have to decide for most of your chips. If you're willing to do that and know you can be right more often than not to win the pot (at the same time not being stubborn and letting it go when you know you aren't good), then just trust your game. If you're not willing to put your stack in with middle pair, obviously more likely what you're going to hit with hands like this than the nuts, that should be your determining factor. Most won't recommend it, but it's a matter of how comfortable you will be playing post-flop with a marginal hand and knowing where you are at.

I have profited very well in situations like these, but it does come with a price that sometimes you will be wrong if you try too hard. I think it's really only best to try and out-play opponents with hands like these consistently if you are deeper. You just don't have enough room to maneuver if you aren't winning in the game, so early in the session, I'd ultimately advise you to stay away from mid-suited connectors. Maybe stick with J-10 suited or better when it comes to suited connectors, but only if the pot isn't going to be bloated.

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Whats your view point on Medium Suited connectors, 67s,78s,89s,J10s?
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:51 PM   #114
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I'll play them in most situations, but I also am playing a cash game deeper than normal. Also, I trust my post-flop play to know when I only hit marginally that I can determine whether it is good or not.

Since I've seen you buying in $150-$200, I don't think it's good to ever be playing hands like this for an open of $10-$15 pre-flop. It also makes it harder for you to be the one to take control of a pot by raising pre to that area, as it doesn't allow you to fire a couple barrels at it if you feel you have to, unless you're making a decision whether or not to for nearly all your stack.

Only play them with frequency if you feel like you can quickly know where you are at when you hit, say 87 and the flop comes Q-7-3, facing a bet from an aggro pre-flop raiser in a 3-way pot. Can you consistently know if you are good there often enough to continue in the hand? If you feel that you are absolutely good in a spot like this (putting him on any A-x that missed, smaller pairs, or use a tight image to blow him off 8's thru J's), are you able to pull the trigger on it?

With $200 to start the hand, you have to figure you put in roughly $12 pre-flop and probably facing $25 on the flop, so you're getting into a spot where you have to decide for most of your chips. If you're willing to do that and know you can be right more often than not to win the pot (at the same time not being stubborn and letting it go when you know you aren't good), then just trust your game. If you're not willing to put your stack in with middle pair, obviously more likely what you're going to hit with hands like this than the nuts, that should be your determining factor. Most won't recommend it, but it's a matter of how comfortable you will be playing post-flop with a marginal hand and knowing where you are at.

I have profited very well in situations like these, but it does come with a price that sometimes you will be wrong if you try too hard. I think it's really only best to try and out-play opponents with hands like these consistently if you are deeper. You just don't have enough room to maneuver if you aren't winning in the game, so early in the session, I'd ultimately advise you to stay away from mid-suited connectors. Maybe stick with J-10 suited or better when it comes to suited connectors, but only if the pot isn't going to be bloated.
Thank you for your view point! i myself am a great post flop player, this is were i trust my game the most. Thats why when i get over pairs im not happy playing them cause you never know where you at in the hand when dealing with high raises.

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Atleast im not the only one! haha i love them myself and feel the risk is worth the reward when you do hit. Appreciate your comments guys keep em coming! Btw got off work early today so Harrahs it is!

Going to buy in for $200 today. Hopefully hit around a 200+ profit so i can hit the 2/5 game. Wish me luck guys, and ill update the blog with the results.

(Rents paid, Vehicle is top notch. Can i get a HELL YEA?)
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:03 PM   #115
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Thank you for your view point! i myself am a great post flop player, this is were i trust my game the most. Thats why when i get over pairs im not happy playing them cause you never know where you at in the hand when dealing with high raises.
Well to be fair, if you are a great post-flop player, you should know where you are at with an over-pair. You have to factor in your opponent, the texture of the board, put him on a range, and you should know more often than not whether or not you are ahead.

I look forward to meeting up with you at Harrahs. Got about three more weeks before I will be out there. Might make it one of my first stops to play cash, because I do want to see first-hand if the games are still soft and enough money is to be made to make it a regular play for me.
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Old 01-28-2015, 03:48 AM   #116
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$$RED ROCK SESSION, SUCCESS$$
Cashed out: $1031

My biggest win to date so far! Wow did i catch some good cards, and my post flop play just couldn't of been better. Got off work early because how slow it was and was really deciding harrahs but ended up hitting my Favorite room, The Red Rock! Great people and i know everyone that works there so i getting treated fairly and also know the nits/regs!

I want to go over a few hands with you but its hard to remember exactly what happened post flop. I will tell you the 3 hands and flop that got me BIG $.

AQ

Flop comes ...

J 10 K

(Haha wtf)

ended up i think 240 off the hand, got 1 person to push on turn and a 40 dollar bet on flop. I thought this may be my first ROYALFLUSH in a live cash game, (Ive had 2 total in my online). Unfortunately bricked both streets.

And also I got BACK to BACK ACES. Insane, I will go over one of the aces that was a 250+ win for me. (Other aces right before this hand i got, i think 100-150 so both very profitable.)

I have A A In position.

5 limpers, so i decide to bump it up to $25 (Theres no way they think i have aces again, and my table was pretty loose so this was standard.)


Flop comes ...
9 4 7

He bets 25 in MP
I re-raise to 60 in hopes of a call/fold (not a re-raise, i put him on a low pair).

BOOM, Kid Instantly Pushes on me. WTF this guy had to hit a set.
I tanked for a good 2-3 mins before i decided too many draws and he could be on a Over pair.
F*ck it i call.

Kid dosent look to unhappy, but dosent show cards. (Makes me believe he was on the flush draw)

Turn:Brick, River:Brick.

He looks at me, i look at him in hopes of no set.
Then he goes "I missed", *Mucks*.


The saying asians always push on flush draws, Its true.

Alright guys thats all i got, wish i remembered more interesting hands.
But im heading to Harrahs now, And will update the 2/5 Session tomorrow or thursday. (work all day tomorrow so i dont know if i want to play drowsy).


$BANKROLL: $2515

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Old 01-28-2015, 04:52 AM   #117
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Sweet session man! Well done!
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:26 AM   #118
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Nice win! Don't want to ruin your huge win, but you got some huge hands that held up. Don't ever let thinking like this come into your head, or you'll never improve. And seeing previous hands, you have room to improve.


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Well to be fair, if you are a great post-flop player, you should know where you are at with an over-pair. You have to factor in your opponent, the texture of the board, put him on a range, and you should know more often than not whether or not you are ahead.

I look forward to meeting up with you at Harrahs. Got about three more weeks before I will be out there. Might make it one of my first stops to play cash, because I do want to see first-hand if the games are still soft and enough money is to be made to make it a regular play for me.
Free roll has made the games significantly worse
This week there has been more tables to spread the nit regs around, but today there were a lot of free roll nits. Before the free roll, harras used to be pretty fishy and it still can be, but during the week on every table you usually get 3-5 nits playing 4% of their hands, plus me the super shark.

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Nice win, OP. To follow up about playing post-flop with an over-pair. You seem to be a little too pessimistic. Of course you can't discredit a set, but you have to figure a lot of 9's or any flush draw probably shoves there as well, if he's one of the loose players that don't mind playing for stacks with a draw, or if he's really a fish, he is just not putting you on a hand range. That's what I mean by board texture. There are plenty of draws out there, and plenty worse that will shove.

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This week there has been more tables to spread the nit regs around, but today there were a lot of free roll nits. Before the free roll, harras used to be pretty fishy and it still can be, but during the week you usually have at least a couple nits playing 4% of their hands.
Yeah that's one bad part about any of the "play X hours to qualify for ???" promos. I could see putting in a couple 6 hour sessions to qualify for it, as $500 is a good deep $1-$3 buy-in or even a freeroll at a $2-$5 buy-in, but if I am going to lose $300-$400 in those sessions by playing a nit-fest, seems not worthy to me. Should score the same difference in a loose $1-$2 game at V twice. Noticing CET properties getting in on the $4 rake, $2/hour comps though. I like this.
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Nice win! Don't want to ruin your huge win, but you got some huge hands that held up. Don't ever let thinking like this come into your head, or you'll never improve. And seeing previous hands, you have room to improve.
I appreciate your honesty but my previous hands in earlier posts you have no idea what my opponents ranges were, how they were acting or what was done before the hands. I agree theres room to improve but those 3 hands didnt get me 1,000 dollars at the 1/2, patience and great post flop play got me there. I understand, everyone needs to improve but with any "noob" player they couldnt of racked $1000+ chips with the folds i pulled between these monsters and kept it playing deep stack play for another 2 hours.

These "Bluff" hands i post are for your entertainment and believe bluffing should be used in poker. Im not your typical ABC "Nitt" whos gonna wait for kings and play fro 17 hours. I go to play "Poker". To say luck was involved is just selfish IMO.

(Btw i bought in for 180, 3 hands didnt give me 1k.)

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You are correct, everybody thinks they are the best player at the table more often than not.

Your thinking with the KK hand "wanting to represent a big A" is the worst reason to bet. If you are now trying to rep a big A, what are you wanting them to fold, a smaller A? Anything else and you don't want them to fold...

But I'll stop my critique now and just enjoy your reports.
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congrats on the big win!

But if you're really buying in for less than 100bbs, you should not really be playing suited connectors.
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congrats on the big win!

But if you're really buying in for less than 100bbs, you should not really be playing suited connectors.

Play ur game bro ..roll on
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You are correct, everybody thinks they are the best player at the table more often than not.

Your thinking with the KK hand "wanting to represent a big A" is the worst reason to bet. If you are now trying to rep a big A, what are you wanting them to fold, a smaller A? Anything else and you don't want them to fold...

But I'll stop my critique now and just enjoy your reports.

The ace popped on the turn, in a situation like that he rarely should even have an Ace after a over pot size bet. Again, I appreciate you posting and do believe I could improve. Although, I'm so confident in my post flop I'll challenge anyone to $50 Sng HU session and stream it to show you my post flop skills. This is a challenge and am willing to even vs butters to show you my skills and why I'm not happy with you thinking my game is weak.

Imagine someone ripping your thread man not cool tbh
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