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05-24-2021 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenophon
I noticed that too. Why would you not max buy in at a 1/3 game unless you are hurting for money? I guess there could be some merit that he wanted to get a feel for the table? But if you have an edge, he should be buying in for $300 or whatever the PH max is. Maybe money is waning...







This is why everyone likes Pman. Very humble, willing to take constructive criticism without getting offended.
Trooper is short on money and have likely been for a while according to himself. He talked about how the pandemic have influenced his bankroll/money situation in an earlier vlog.

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05-24-2021 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
So, the peanut gallery is wondering:Have Trooper or Lady Trooper yet confirmed whether they are still together or not?
Yeah, they both appeared in a video together a few days ago and explained that with both of them "working," there has been no time for them to be together. She added that she had been in training for six days straight and that she was appearing in the vlog that day because it was her day off and her first opportunity to do so.

But apparently that's not enough "proof" that they're still together for some people such as Steve, who pronounced it "meh." Although other than a pornhub worthy video, I'm not sure what would satisfy him.


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Meh, this doesn’t prove anything. It could just as easily prove she put him in the friend zone. He had lunch with Kelly too when they weren’t together. And people aren’t saying she left because she got a job. You would think if they were together, she would mention it in her comment section instead of ignoring the issue when people asked and saying she doesn’t want to talk about personal stuff.

I thought he was going to respond in a video. I guess it’s possible they could be together though; people get curious because they try to be secretive about stuff.
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05-24-2021 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvDaVlogs
At the end of the day if Pman wants it, its his for the taking. He has the concerned uncles here to guide him, its really just about if he wants it or not. He is definitely capable of beating 1-2 in vegas, only time will tell if he is someone who can gamble for a living though. Thats the fun of life
Absolutely. Ty LuvDaVlogs

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This.
There's actually a good depth of different expertise in here. Individually goofballs perhaps, but collectively a potentially beneficial resource to someone like PMan, trooper etc


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Originally Posted by Xenophon
I noticed that too. Why would you not max buy in at a 1/3 game unless you are hurting for money? I guess there could be some merit that he wanted to get a feel for the table? But if you have an edge, he should be buying in for $300 or whatever the PH max is. Maybe money is waning...



This is why everyone likes Pman. Very humble, willing to take constructive criticism without getting offended.
Tyvm Xeno, unfortunately not everyone likes me though :P i tend to rub alot of people the wrong way. I appreciate the kind words though.
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05-24-2021 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Playlive
Slapping a cheesy sticker on someone else's coffee isn't starting a business it's taking the easy way out. Tim is one of the laziest human beings I have ever seen. With his dealing talent he could work 4 days a week and kill it with tips but of course he doesn't want to answer to the man.



You really think both of them are break even players? LOL. Being a Tim fan boy isn't becoming buddy.
So I guess now businesses need to meet your product standards in order to be called a business. Let me guess.....you are one of those midwestern types rooted in strong religious Protestant work ethic where unless you're working hard long hours for minimal pay to help buy your boss a bigger yacht, you aint doin it "the right way" and taking the "easy way out".

Then you bring up "both of them" (whoever both of them are) and their poker prowess or lack thereof (something I didnt even mention) then go off how I'm a fanboy of Tim's when in fact most of my posts regarding Trooper are critical of him.

Yeah we get it you don't like being called out for saying stupid things. But nice of you to pile on even more with your latest post. Keep it coming.

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05-24-2021 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasKK
Well, I guess I'm not sure exactly what the rule is.
Last aggressive action (bet/raise) shows first, then in play order from there. The dealer should enforce it if the player who shows first is slow.

A lot of rec players don't understand the rule, which is why it can make sense to early roll rather than start a stupid argument.

It's generally etiquette that if you're 2nd to show and the aggressive player say "bluff" or "I've got nothing" or whatever that you show. But it's not the rule. I've never had someone do that and then slowroll a winner, but I guess it's possible.
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05-24-2021 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Laziest human being yet produces a vlog every single day for 20+ days straight while also taking time to respond to comments, delete comments, host a meetup game every week, run side businesses, and help his girlfriend with her side hustle.

Again, it sounds like you are speaking of Andrew Neeme and Brad Owen.
Trooper isn't lazy. He is immature and horribly inefficient. He also lacks any sort of focus.
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05-24-2021 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
So I guess now businesses need to meet your product standards in order to be called a business. Let me guess.....you are one of those midwestern types rooted in strong religious Protestant work ethic where unless you're working hard long hours for minimal pay to help buy your boss a bigger yacht, you aint doin it "the right way" and taking the "easy way out".
In the case of Tim, he'd probably be what a half million dollars ahead if he'd taken the time he's spent not making money on coffee, poker, hats, YouTube etc. and simply put his highest paying skill (dealing) to work?

The Protestant work ethic exists because many people, including him, are not equipped to work smarter.
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05-24-2021 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pmanprays
Lol, yeah it was about the same. I really don't want to play the victim card here, but insomnia sucks. When that is under control, life is good. I put in 3 5hr+ sessions. I plan to move to 6 hours, then 7 and 8. I want at least 25-30 a week in the short term, and probably more than that in the mid term. I'm doing stuff off the felt as well to improve my game and expand my network.

Thanks again guys.
Try to play through it and see if it helps. I've been so tired it took me 2 minutes of staring at the board to make sure I really had a straight. But later on I was able to play through the multi-day WSOP tournaments that go till 2 am, and I'm old as dirt.
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05-24-2021 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SplawnDarts
Last aggressive action (bet/raise) shows first, then in play order from there. The dealer should enforce it if the player who shows first is slow.
Actually, Robert's Rules of Poker states that last aggressive shows unless everyone checks on the river in which case the first to show is the player left of the button.

Some rooms just go by last aggressive action regardless of river action though. This inconsistency of rules does at times lead to a battle of attrition where each player thinks the other should show first.
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05-24-2021 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SplawnDarts
In the case of Tim, he'd probably be what a half million dollars ahead if he'd taken the time he's spent not making money on coffee, poker, hats, YouTube etc. and simply put his highest paying skill (dealing) to work?

The Protestant work ethic exists because many people, including him, are not equipped to work smarter.
or alternatively he could have worked smarter instead of harder at the Youtube game and he would be setting himself up for a nice retirement. Trooper was the first person into the poker vlog game and is still only getting 7-8k views per video, it takes a shocking combination of being a dumb + stubborn person to be able to accomplish a feat like that. Rampage just started his vlog last year and is already getting 100k views per video.
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05-24-2021 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Actually, Robert's Rules of Poker states that last aggressive shows unless everyone checks on the river in which case the first to show is the player left of the button.

Some rooms just go by last aggressive action regardless of river action though. This inconsistency of rules does at times lead to a battle of attrition where each player thinks the other should show first.
I've never seen a room that consistently did left of the button on a check-though. I think this is a case where Bob is a bit behind the times - the concept of the betting lead has become more formalized over time. However, if everyone hesitates and the dealer enforces ANY reasonable policy, that's fine by me.

The typical trouble is when the betting lead was a bluff and they don't want to show.
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05-24-2021 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
or alternatively he could have worked smarter instead of harder at the Youtube game and he would be setting himself up for a nice retirement.
No, someone else could have worked smarter rather than harder. It's not at all clear he's capable of it.
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05-24-2021 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SplawnDarts
I've never seen a room that consistently did left of the button on a check-though. I think this is a case where Bob is a bit behind the times - the concept of the betting lead has become more formalized over time. However, if everyone hesitates and the dealer enforces ANY reasonable policy, that's fine by me.

The typical trouble is when the betting lead was a bluff and they don't want to show.
Sounds like the rooms you play at do not go by the standard rules or are inconsistent in the rules they enforce. Bob is not behind the times given this is also the current rule at the World Series of Poker:

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Showdown: During a showdown where no Participants are all-in and if cards are not spontaneously tabled, the Floor People may enforce an order of show. The last aggressive Participant on the final betting round (final street where betting is possible) must table first. If there was no bet on the final betting round, then the Participant who would be first to act in a betting round must table first (i.e. first seat left of the button in flop games, high hand showing in stud, low hand showing in razz, etc.)
https://www.wsop.com/2019/2019%20WSO...nt%20Rules.pdf
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05-24-2021 , 06:24 PM
Trooper trolls us by showing some editing and then changing the formula by starting with a rant.

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05-24-2021 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SplawnDarts
I've never seen a room that consistently did left of the button on a check-though. I think this is a case where Bob is a bit behind the times - the concept of the betting lead has become more formalized over time. However, if everyone hesitates and the dealer enforces ANY reasonable policy, that's fine by me.

The typical trouble is when the betting lead was a bluff and they don't want to show.
I've been playing for 20 years and it is extremely rare to see a room that doesn't follow RRoP on this.
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05-24-2021 , 08:08 PM
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I've been playing for 20 years and it is extremely rare to see a room that doesn't follow RRoP on this.
Then you've been exceptionally sheltered or not paying attention.
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05-24-2021 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
So, the peanut gallery is wondering:Have Trooper or Lady Trooper yet confirmed whether they are still together or not?

Trooper seems like he is on a roll these days to earn money, pumping out vlogs like a mad man.
Trooper said they they are still together, but he misrepresented what people were saying. People weren’t suspicious because she got a job. She was talking about leaving town, avoided questions asking if they were still together and only said she wanted to keep her personal life private (Why not just give a simple yes and shut those questions down right there?), she hasn’t been appearing in videos, he has been ranting and looking angry recently, and she seemed to take some shots at him when she talked about wanting structure and health care in her life when talking about the changes she was making.

He was very reluctant to mention it when Molly left him and even seemed in denial when he was pushed into bringing it up.

So who knows? You think they could at least kiss in the video. They could show some proof that they are still living together (Has he done this? I don’t know). But instead we get the “She is too busy to see me” excuse.

It’s also surprising that Lady Trooper mentioned wanting to keep her personal life private but made several appearances with him when they were still together and even started her own vlog.

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05-24-2021 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SplawnDarts
I've never seen a room that consistently did left of the button on a check-though. I think this is a case where Bob is a bit behind the times - the concept of the betting lead has become more formalized over time. However, if everyone hesitates and the dealer enforces ANY reasonable policy, that's fine by me.

The typical trouble is when the betting lead was a bluff and they don't want to show.
Every poker room in Las Vegas has the worst position show first when there is no action on river. It is only last aggressive action if there was an all in situation or bet/call on river.
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05-24-2021 , 08:35 PM
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But apparently that's not enough "proof" that they're still together for some people such as Steve, who pronounced it "meh." Although other than a pornhub worthy video, I'm not sure what would satisfy him.
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So who knows? You think they could at least kiss in the video
Giggity
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05-24-2021 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Trooper trolls us by showing some editing and then changing the formula by starting with a rant.

Trooper giving every reason in the book for why he doesn't play bigger than 1/3, except for the obvious - he sucks.
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05-24-2021 , 08:54 PM
Some people actually believe Trooper when he says he is the most honest guy ever. They probably think his mask rants had nothing to do with politics despite his twitter being very political recently. I think he recently said he didn’t even care who was president. Sure, that’s why he quotes people like Candace Owens.

“Are you guys still together?”

Lady Trooper: “I like to keep my personal life private even though I vlog about my life.”

Didn’t his vlog used to be a couples vlog?

Btw, Jaman mentioned how he started vlogging recently and praised Trooper:

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05-24-2021 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
OMC has got to start bluffing some. And show the bluff from time to time. Feather folding top pair with QJ to a turn bet when the board paired an 8 says all you need to know. He's just not getting enough action.
I think people still wouldn’t give him much action even if he showed a bluff or two. He only buys in for $100, probably plays tighter than most players, doesn’t look like one of the younger players; people aren’t going to think he is an action player. Even if he shows a bluff, people might realize what he is doing, which is showing a bluff to get action because he plays so nitty. He didn’t even 3-bet QQ.
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05-24-2021 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Trooper said they they are still together, but he misrepresented what people were saying. People weren’t suspicious because she got a job. She was talking about leaving town, avoided questions asking if they were still together and only said she wanted to keep her personal life private (Why not just give a simple yes and shut those questions down right there?), she hasn’t been appearing in videos, he has been ranting and looking angry recently, and she seemed to take some shots at him when she talked about wanting structure and health care in her life when talking about the changes she was making.

He was very reluctant to mention it when Molly left him and even seemed in denial when he was pushed into bringing it up.

So who knows? You think they could at least kiss in the video. They could show some proof that they are still living together (Has he done this? I don’t know). But instead we get the “She is too busy to see me” excuse.

It’s also surprising that Lady Trooper mentioned wanting to keep her personal life private but made several appearances with him when they were still together and even started her own vlog.
The moving out of the house they were in could be a clue. I mean Tim doesn't bring much to the table when it comes to a relationship. He doesn't have much money or any source of good constant income. The big factor is he has no health coverage. I mean does anyone know much it is to have a kid? This is also assuming neither of them need a doctor for other things. Not to mention he dresses like he is in Junior High School and is in a rut. All these things are negatives when it comes to keeping a girl like her.
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05-24-2021 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
They don't win very much. That's for certain.
Funny thing is I’ve seen people criticize them for winning too much in their videos.
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05-24-2021 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Man Coffee
Trooper giving every reason in the book for why he doesn't play bigger than 1/3, except for the obvious - he sucks.

5 years. Zero progress.

I thought the best part was the ranting about not judging people and then he judged that young lady based on her SHOES less than 5 minutes later.

Tim is what Tim is, it’s never going to change.


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