Goodbye Waffe. It's been swell.

(Seriously though, the main reason I dont have a kid yet, is because I have yet to find a woman stupid enough to think I would make a good dad and at the same time isnt incredibly annoying and/or ugly. I dont think I have ever made a decision for "the good of the planet". Me me me all the way.)

if i were female id marry Ren

Bromance ITT

i think you are really underestimating how hard it is to get over those ingrained animal/evolutionary instincts. if you and your girl can truly do it then good for you, but its gonna get harder the older you get.

you change when you get older. im only a couple years older than you but im different than when i was 23. ill be different when im 28 than i am now. you're definetly not the first person your age to decide they never want to have kids. though to your credit you've thought it out a hell of alot more than the typical "no thanks they poop alot and i still want to have a social life and i will never own a minivan"

jah, i may have misunderstood the post you made after this but i think you were listing reasons this doesnt matter to you? if so you're really underestimating genetics. nature AND nurture, not vs.



so did priest get in more trouble if they used one on alter boys? like relocated to a crappier parish instead of an equivalent one or something?

seriously though, do africans really care about catholic doctrine? like are all those mission trips actually convincing them not to use condoms or is it just that all those mission trips could be bringing them condoms and they arent?

I know the Bush administration made a lot of their aid to Africa conditional on that none of the money could be spent on birth control of any kind, be it condoms or pills. Of course it is their money, and I am sure the Africans were happy for any help at all, but jesus ****ing christ how ****ing ignorant can people with that much wealth and power be?

"Here is foodstamps for all! You will never starve again!! Only one condition: you can ONLY spend it on double chocolate brownies. Yum! Let's see how grateful you are!!! Weeeee!!!!"

I have a couple posts before I hit 5000, and this seems like a waste, but dear god don't be stupid Jah. have your wife get an IUD. they are as effective as birth control, don't use hormones, only have to be replaced every few years, and take 5 minutes for her Gyn to insert.

seriously my wife is an MD. when I told her your plan she thought it was stupid. not only is it a waste of your time and money (or insurance money) but could seriously impact your life down the line should your current view point change. And BTW in case you've forgotten you're 23 and your opinions and view points will change. I'm 28 and every year I learn that I was dumber than I thought last year, and that I still have a lot to learn.

getting a vasectomy at your age is just silly considering all other reasonable birth control options. if you research IUDs and your conclusion is still to get a vasectomy I'll have to conclude that you're just a masochist.

The animal/evolutionary instinct is to have sex, not to have kids. So if Jah is having sex, then he's not "getting over" any instincts imo. Our genes drive us to have sex, not to think "I want to have a kid". I mean how many guys are thinking "I want a kid". Probably not many, especially young ones. But how many are thinking "I want to have sex with that person". Everyone.

I'm not saying anything about what percentage of Africans care about Christianity, just that when you have an authority figure (the Pope) who many people follow blindly spouting BS like condoms can't be used because non-marital sex is a sin, etc., it certainly doesn't do anything to help overpopulation matters or AIDS problems. Handing out condoms might help but as a start just not having net negative impact would be nice.

I was going to avoid this discussion as I couldn't think of a good way to voice my opinion without repeating what others have already said but this post needs more love. Spot on in my opinion. At our age jah we should be leaving doors open, not closing them.

On a personal, selfish level that might be true, but you cant deny that what Jah is doing is great for the rest of us.

i was referring to the unconditional love part when i mentioned instinct. we are wired to provide for/protect (love) our genetic offspring because we have a desire for our genes to live on. whether its the ego thinking ours are better than most other peoples, or some way to live past our normal live spans, or something else entirely, its just how our species is.

intellectually a kid is a kid. if you're responsible for it you should love it. but those unconscious feelings are pretty hard to completely get around. not saying you cant love an adopted kid a ton, but id be shocked if for most people it was exactly the same as loving their own.

as far as the aids, i get what you're saying. its pretty stupid. i was just curious if you knew about how the missions and stuff worked over there cuz i pretty much have no clue but if they are directly affecting condom usage that goes from stupid to im not even sure what but i prolly shouldnt type it anyway cuz its storming here and id get struck by lightning.

A lot of parents dont love their genetic offspring. And yes the Catholics and other religious organisations actively work against any kind of birth control.

Every sperm is sacred.

If these are your arguments, shouldn't you want to have kids, teach them not to be like this and thus, making our society better?

you're right, but jah seems like a good person and doesnt strike me as the "im such a bastard i dont even love my own kid" type. but by that same token he loves bunnies instead of eating them so he prolly wouldnt have a problem unconditionally loving an aids baby either.

every sperm is wasted reminds me of an old joke:

So my grandmaw walked in on me jerking off. She's super catholic and started lecturing me about how its a sin and in the bible it says it is better for your seed to fall in the belly of a whore than on to the ground.

I said grandmaw, thats fine, but you're paying for the whore.

lol i bet that one gets the disco seal of approval

these are valid points

id also add that people are all very different but at the same time we're wired very similar and have a bunch in common (generally speaking). theres a difference between things that bring us joy and things that make us happy. young people especially, dont realize this or dont understand the difference. things like "balling", jerking off, smoking weed, and poker bring you joy (poker can make people happy i guess but it depends imo). things that will make you happy are a good spouse, good friends, good relationship with family, rewarding career (like being a school teacher), and making babies with said spouse. generally speaking we're wired that way so why fight it?

as pointed out youre going to change a lot after 23 and so is your old lady. even the most level headed women on earth could change her mind in 10 minutes nevermind 10 years. you got any clue on how much people change 23-33? in addition to that i can tell you that i personally have witnessed a ton of relationships that seemed rock solid (no fighting, solid careers, socially competent) have ended in divorce? do you understand how many older, more mature people regret not having prenuptial agreements? things change

the whole adoption thing is sketchy imo. i grew up in an affluent community and there were a bunch of adopted kids. i'd say at least 75% of them had some serious problems (usually started by drugs). one of my best friends from highschool was adopted and knocked up his old lady at about 21. he now has a crack problem and isnt really apart of his kids life much. his sister was also adopted but from a different mother. she had an abortion at 16, married a "party guy" who developed a drug problem and is now divorced with kids. the cycle of growing up without a father repeats itself ( http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fatherless+drug+abuse ). an adopted kid in my class from grade 3-8 ended up doing drugs and running away from home to LA. he ended up in the bloods or crips gang and got locked up a bunch of years for armed robbery. in an affluent community what % of kids are going off the tracks like this? what % are adopted? def something to look in to or think about if you consider that an option. in my case i think i'd be doing the world a disservice by adopting. if my old lady held up her end of the bargain my kid would be a genetic masterpiece
print this off and read it 10 years from now and see if you still feel this way

i think the interesting thing is that a few guys left on the evolution chart were having sex cause they just had this urge. then they realized sex = babies but they did it anyways cause they had the urge and getting laid felt great. then we came up with birth control so in theory sex doesn't = babies.... but then we realized that we are all going to die and that making babies in a way is the only way to cheat death

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theloo...l-care-in-jail

hope this doesnt derail the talk about jah's **** and balls but i foudn this story to be both really funny and really depressing at the same time

All this talk is depressing...nothing to do with balance in life nor quality of life...and is the primary reason why all of your winrates are so low...ok i said my piece, hows your moms?

You find it depressing because your mind is weak.

Juan,

I think you mentioned something about ss'ers having changed their strat recently. I have noticed the same, but could just be sample size. They seem to be 3b/calling a LOT wider than before. Also for the ones that like to blind down open/call range seems to be a lot wider as well. True or false? This is rush btw.

I luff getting freerolled with aces.

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 1349900
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $127.20
Hero (BB): $220.70
UTG: $220.90
UTG+1: $214.40
MP1: $70.00
MP2: $222.50
CO: $314.20
BTN: $67.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with A A
UTG raises to $6, UTG+1 raises to $18, 5 folds, Hero raises to $42, UTG raises to $220.90 all in, UTG+1 calls $196.40 all in, Hero calls $178.70 all in

Flop: ($656.80) K 7 J (3 players - 3 are all in)

Turn: ($656.80) 4 (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($656.80) Q (3 players - 3 are all in)

UTG A A
UTG+1 K K

First time I've agreed with Ren.

Well one thing all this talk about having/not having kids reinforces is that there is no hope for mankind given human overpopulation is the root cause of global warming and mass extinction of species. The average person is clearly incapable of altruistic action. That's OK. The sooner we get to mass extinction the better.

you think your vote matters too huh?

I'm an anarchist which means freedom BTW. Voting is idiotic. Governments merely sustain the slavery of the masses.