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06-02-2014 , 01:16 AM
Woz is on the prowl (looking for new pipe):



After a disappointing trip to France, Serena Williams and Caroline Wozniacki didn't waste time sulking. They took their talents to South Beach and made quite a wild weekend out of it.
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06-02-2014 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
Could this be the start of a big summer / fall for Na? God forbid ... a spot on the U.S. Ryder Cup team?

Hideki not ready for prime time.

This tournament just went from awesome to blah real quick.
Na moved up to #14 on the Ryder Cup list.
06-02-2014 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bigdottawa
US Open sectional qualifiers tomorrow.

Biggest fields are at Brookside in Columbus, OH(120 players for 16 spots) and Colonial in Memphis(145 players for 13 spots).

700+ players playing for 56 spots across ten qualifiers.

http://www.usopen.com/en_US/news/qua...sectional.html
One of the best days of golf.

If anyone is even remotely close to Columbus - they should try to get out to this Sectional sometime. It's played on two magnificent courses and you get to walk alongside the players. There are no ropes and usually small crowds, and given the venues proximity to Muirfield, you see TONS of big names in the Columbus Sectional.
06-02-2014 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
Woz is on the prowl (looking for new pipe):



After a disappointing trip to France, Serena Williams and Caroline Wozniacki didn't waste time sulking. They took their talents to South Beach and made quite a wild weekend out of it.
I wonder who ****ed more black pipe this weekend. Probably Woz by a 2 to 1 ratio. Actually doesn't Serena date white dudes? lol
06-02-2014 , 12:21 PM
Maybe they just hooked up with each other? Part of her revenge might be to start playing for the other team and tell people Rory turned her off from men.
06-02-2014 , 12:53 PM
Woz mixing beats this weekend at a Miami club:



Safe to say that somebody tapped that ass this weekend ... could've have been Serena with a strap-on ... who really knows?
06-02-2014 , 01:08 PM
The point is she's proving that she's definitely not a jilted ex-lover. Not at all.
06-02-2014 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
I doubt the FBI would go after a high profile guy like Phil unless they had some pretty certain evidence.

gathering from the news coverage its kinda easy to put the dots together. icahn is a billion $ activist trader that can move the needle when he invests in a company or tries to influence the board of directors with threats of hostile takeover. they are friends so one can assume icahn told phil, that he(icahn) was gonna go public with a hostile takeover attempt on clorox. so before the news goes public, phils buys a ton of clorox shares, icahn goes public with takeover attempt, stocks jumps on news and phil capitalizes on the trade. it looks suspicious because phil buys a ton of shares only days or hours before announcement and sells shortly after. not a normal trading trend.

however since icahn is not a board member of clorox it is not technically insider trading and they will have hard time making a case. it is information that is only privy to icahn's inner circle so the common man would never have these advantages when investing. so for a guy who places a lot of emphasis on his image of the everyday man, its pretty scummy or hypocritical at the least. however, most would prob do same in his shoes.
06-02-2014 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nih han
however, most would prob do same in his shoes.
Not really. With Phil's net worth there is no reason he should be ****ing day-trading individual stocks. I posted this on twitter as a joke but I mostly agree with it:

Jon Gruden @ThisJonGruden · May 31

Phil #Mickelson, champion of the "hinge and hold" chipping strategy probably should have used the "buy and hold" passive #investing strategy


What's better than $100 Million? 103 Million with an infinite increased risk of going to prison! WASPy degens gonna degen.
06-02-2014 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
Not really. With Phil's net worth there is no reason he should be ****ing day-trading individual stocks. I posted this on twitter as a joke but I mostly agree with it:

Jon Gruden @ThisJonGruden · May 31

Phil #Mickelson, champion of the "hinge and hold" chipping strategy probably should have used the "buy and hold" passive #investing strategy


What's better than $100 Million? 103 Million with an infinite increased risk of going to prison! WASPy degens gonna degen.
So true. Insane risk for basically no reward.
06-02-2014 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
Not really. With Phil's net worth there is no reason he should be ****ing day-trading individual stocks. I posted this on twitter as a joke but I mostly agree with it:

Jon Gruden @ThisJonGruden · May 31

Phil #Mickelson, champion of the "hinge and hold" chipping strategy probably should have used the "buy and hold" passive #investing strategy


What's better than $100 Million? 103 Million with an infinite increased risk of going to prison! WASPy degens gonna degen.
I'm pretty sure the jump was closer to 10%, so 10 million in one day is pretty appealing considering you are not breaking the law technically. again icahn has to be on the board or and officer with info privy only to the suits of the company.

I'm sure this kind of stuff goes on all day on wall street and is why main street is so turned off and think the game is rigged. its the uber rich angling the market. and since the fed seems to be interested, it must be a big number. if phil is worth 100 million than he can make trades on margins for a lot more than that. and if its for a sure thing thers no reason not the bet the house. i don't think fbi will care about a couple million.
06-02-2014 , 03:17 PM
just read this so i guess he made a killing...

http://www.optionmonster.com/news/ar...bid_93863.html

$0.10 to $2.20

also icahn said he doesn't know phil, so phil probably knew the sports gambler(also being investigated) who gave him the info. heard somewhere phil is a big gambler too.
06-02-2014 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
So true. Insane risk for basically no reward.
Didn't Phil make some remark last year about how much he pays in taxes and then backpedaled at the next tournament's media day.
06-02-2014 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nih han
I'm pretty sure the jump was closer to 10%, so 10 million in one day is pretty appealing considering you are not breaking the law technically. again icahn has to be on the board or and officer with info privy only to the suits of the company.

I'm sure this kind of stuff goes on all day on wall street and is why main street is so turned off and think the game is rigged. its the uber rich angling the market. and since the fed seems to be interested, it must be a big number. if phil is worth 100 million than he can make trades on margins for a lot more than that. and if its for a sure thing thers no reason not the bet the house. i don't think fbi will care about a couple million.
I'm no lawyer and I don't have that much experience in securities (I worked for E*Trade Securities for two years) but this doesn't sound right to me.
06-02-2014 , 05:12 PM
Do you guys know how many rounds this US Open qualifier is?

http://www.usopen.com/en_US/news/qua...227721940.html
06-02-2014 , 05:30 PM
ni han, I was just throwing numbers out there. Mostly I took offense to your comment "most would probably do the same in his shoes" which is unfounded bull**** thinking.
06-02-2014 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
The point is she's going out of her way to show to the world that she's definitely not a jilted ex-lover. Not at all.

FYP
06-02-2014 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DanteA
Do you guys know how many rounds this US Open qualifier is?

http://www.usopen.com/en_US/news/qua...227721940.html
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06-02-2014 , 06:36 PM
Skimming thread from yesterday, holy AIDS. Some of you guys hate way too easily, particularly the announcer haters. The next time Ian Baker-Finch says something clearly objectionable will be the first. The guy is milquetoast, perfect for golf. Augusta probably wishes they could clone him.

Great finish though. 29 times out of 30 they'll interview that guy who had that hot final round which puts him temporarily in or around the lead and it's like yeah ok, good job but that's not going to hold up. Then it took a longshot birdie from Matsuyama for Na to not win outright.

So as ugly as the end of the round was, both guys in the playoff were deserving for different reasons: Matsuyama for the bounceback after playing 16 and 17 in +3, and Na for an amazing final round. Too bad the playoff involved even more fail but ******. I was entertained, and much of that was due to the venue. Muirfield delivers again.
06-02-2014 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
ni han, I was just throwing numbers out there. Mostly I took offense to your comment "most would probably do the same in his shoes" which is unfounded bull**** thinking.
if what i described is what he did, there is nothing illegal about it. carl icahn is famous for doing this. its called activist investing. since his investment capital is so large(in the billions) he takes on large positions and tries to influence the board on his initiatives. he did this with apple late last year as well. not with a takeover bid but trying to get tim cook to institute an aggressive share buyback plan. apple stock was underperforming and while tim cook didn't initial completely cave in, apple later did institute a huge stock buyback and dividend hike. apple shares were near 52 week lows earlier last year and now they are at 52 week highs.

if icahn and say clorox had made some deal in private and were to announce a merger or acquisition, but icahn leak that info to mickelson and he acted on that, it would be a different story. but this was just an announcement of a hostile takeover bid for clorox that clorox 's board ultimately rejected later. clorox was struggling so the takeover story caused a jump in clorox share which it seems like mickelson was the beneficiary of through puts and calls that had even larger(huge) % gains.

guys like icahn and buffet create a ripple effect in the market when they make moves. if people are privy to certain information on their actions before it becomes public then they can definitely use that to their advantage. nothing is 100%(a war can start the night before and market can still crash next day) but all things being equal, its fair to say you can predict the move the market will make.

since it is an individual investor making his own bets there really is no insider information from the company that is being disclosed or leaked to gain an unfair advantage. it may not be illegal but its an example of how the game is rigged. its easier for the rich to get richer while if you start from the gutter you probably got no chance.

so if its legal then Id bet that most would do it than not. and therefor no where near "unfounded bull**** thinking."
06-02-2014 , 07:18 PM
There are some great players just trying to get into the US Open.

Tons of major winners including two-timer Lee Janzen.
06-02-2014 , 07:48 PM
there has to be a breach of duty for there to be a crime.

the only possible breach is from icahn to his limited partners, the theory being that tipping someone else raises the cost of his position accumulation. this is potentially weak and fact-sensitive, and is a theory that has never, ever resulted in a criminal conviction (nor has it even been argued by the government to my knowledge).
06-02-2014 , 08:20 PM
Really seems like the government is just trying to smear Mickelson by leaking that they are investigating him while knowing full well that they have nothing and will never bring charges. But also that they don't like him having an unfair advantage in the market and that lots of uneducated people will jump on the "where there's smoke there's fire" thing.
06-02-2014 , 08:28 PM
Also all the comments about McIlroy's ex in this thread got really off putting to me. It was kind of fun to LOL about him winning in Europe immediately after dumping her, but I have no interest in reading or participating in some schadenfreude version of US Weekly or the "I think it's cool to be a misogynist" jokes
06-02-2014 , 08:39 PM
Pull your skirt up and grab your balls.
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