I am never mad when I post, I just say it like it is.

And this guy is fat and delusional. We have seen this same story repeat itself many times.

SAW pressed 205 at 205. He was still somewhat fat at 173. Both Saw and realB were 5'6", hero here is 5'7". So we seen plenty of these shorts with ridiculous presses because of their 2" ROM. Doesn't mean they are muscle freaks He thinks he is a genetic freak and 170 is not possible for him.

It is definitely possible and that's what it's going to take if he wants to do this without a statin. That's the loco way, been there done that. But he could also just get on the statin and live the fatty way and be relatively healthy.

Well it's never going to happen, this guy too delusional. Maybe he makes it to 185 if he doesn't want to facking die in the 2020s.

Its hard to set a solid line. This guy is getting older and T levels are borderline low. But I would be super impressed if he manages anything over 200 at 185lbs. Maybe the line is 203-205.

Which don't get me wrong, is a fantastic facking number. But nothing we haven't seen around here. Doesn't mean the guy is super jacked, I mean guy reps 185 on the squat. Those are EVgonnaEV type numbers and that guy gets plain fat at anything over 170 (and he is 5'9").

Why would it not happen? If he’s delusional it should be easy for you to win a prop bet

Total fatty delusion that we seen around here many times. Remember when I nailed Holliday's press progress?

I mean look at the beginning of the log, Spy thinks he can press 315! Lol!!

The gorilla pressed 285 but he had to bulk up to 300 to hit it. And the gorilla literally looked like The Mountain when he did it.

This guy looks closer to the marshmallow man than the mountain. Total delusion but this blood work slapped him back to the real world and he knows what must be done (lose that gut). And that's all that matters, who cares what he presses at 185lbs but maybe he will see 2030.

Nothing says classic S&F like the loc-huahua yipping up a storm and then proposing and immediately backpedaling away from a prop bet; now all we need is saw logging his poop and Yugo posting "natural" fitness competitors in the LC thread to truly party like it's 2015 again.

Spy, beesch nailed it - loco's definition of fat is different than most everyone else's, so just enjoy the performance art and loc-chismo for what it is and don't get so wound up.

lol. You're just making yourself look even stupider making statements like this. You definitely want to get your eyes checked. Seems like you're the delusional one here saying this and just shows the level of your jealousy.

How mad you must be bro.

lol oh how interesting. First it was "You could maybe press 190(if that) at 185.) But now once money is involved it suddenly jumps 15lbs to 205? lmao. And I won't be able to get down to 180 you say?

So how about stop spewing nonsense and put some money. Since it's impossible for me clearly I should get some odds right?

2 to 1? Especially since I have to accomplish 2 things. 1. reach 180lb bw which you just said will never happen because I'm too delusional. So should be free money for you just on that alone.

2. Press 205 which is your line that you already moved by 15 lbs lol. But I still accept.

Give me 2 to 1 and we bet minimum $10k for me, $20k for you.

In b4 crickets and you start back pedaling with more BS.

I seen this dance before from donks like you. +Rep and Lilu7 are in the donk body count. Lots of talk and no action.

Boom nailed it. The reason it doesn't happen is because these guys just like to talk, but deep inside know it's BS. Also they're likely broke so can't put up $ to bet.

Once again, all the more reason to bet on it if he’s delusional and you’re always right on this topic

To be fair, the weight we are talking about went up from 190 to 205 bc we are talking about testing at different body weights (165 vs 180-185). I think something like 200 press @ 180 or 205 press at 185 would be a good bet but given loco’s history on prop bets, it prob won’t happen

Classic insecurities he's projecting on others. He himself with small frame has to be at 140lbs to not be fat so he thinks everyone else has to be like that. He realized he can't lift because he's too small so pivoted to cardio and running.

Now hates on anyone else who lifts more than him and is bigger than him crying that they're fat and it's impossible.

I really wish I hadn't posted any videos now. It would've been quite amusing watching all his theories on how there's no way I can press 225 much less x3. Though he still wouldn't have bet money I'm sure.

Excited to see what his next back pedal will be.

My guess

"You're too much of a delusional donk to bet with."

Even if all true; why do you care?

Lol. What an idiot. Just making numbers up. I gave you 190 at 165. At 185, I adjusted the line. That's how press works you moron, you get significantly weaker as you lose weight.

None of this is going to happen. Your life is on the line and that's still not enough.

Your prop action is like when Thremp said he could beat me in a nood off and that he wanted to put a million dollars on it. To escrow or stfu up. Lol.

Prop bets like this can't happen because it's too easy to cheat. Donk.

But hey look, press 205 at 185 and show us a 33" waist. You will get back your pride and you will get to see 2030. Seems like all the motivation in the world right there.

At the end of the day you a low stakes poker donk with low level health and fitness knowledge. But stick around so you can LOL at yourself in a decade. I certainly did that but now I am a gambling and fitness God.

Ahh you're right good point I missed that.

Anyways you are right in that it won't happen. Just curious what his excuse will be.

Loco if the $ is a problem how about we bet $100 if that's more within your budget. lmk either way k. We are all here for you.

lol called it. This ain't my first rodeo dealing with idiots that just like to talk.

Set your terms buddy. How is it too easy to cheat? I'm not a cheater so I wouldn't really know. But you're probably an expert so give us your insight.

And you are a gambling god but won't make an easy money prop bet? lol

more like broke from gambling.

See I’d like to put up a thread to track some offseason golf related training I’m gonna do but these things seem to devolve into nonsense every time so now why bother?

Strange isn't it? He "doesn't care" enough to post pages of nonsense. Then when offered what should be the easiest money for him all of a sudden won't take the bet.
Odd behavior for a gambling god.
I offer to use video of weigh ins and tape measure and of course the lift.

But ime no amount of accommodations are enough for them to take any amount of action. Quickest way to expose where they truly stand is to offer a bet which they always decline lol.

Gambling god who passes up a lock of a bet. It must be from the goodness of his heart. What a hero.

The only thing that gets me a little upset with these donks is when it gets to the point it's at now. I call out their bs by saying let's do a prop bet pretty much at the lines they set.

And they always decline. "I won't bet with a donk."

Every single time no fail. Never even a counter on the terms. So unsetisfying.

The loco level of excuses:

1. If you don’t have a log or post videos, lifts are fake. Spy has both though so we move on

2. You only lift a lot bc you are fat. We point out he can not just press BW, but actually around 20 lbs over his BW, which is better than 99% of the forum so we move on.

3. Only a 2 inch ROM. Congrats spy, you have reached the 3rd and final excuse. Maybe if u grow longer arms we will take your lifts seriously

Also LOL at being able to cheat on the bet. Just say your a pussy and slink away

I don't think bolded is a lock. If his diet was restricted sufficiently enough, I think he could get the cholesterol to a good level without a statin. But we're talking like exclusively chicken breast, fish, veggies and nothing else. Do that for a year at maintenance at 185, and I'd be shocked if he be at levels where statins would be recommended.

Of course eating only those things and maintaining weight (while exercising) is a ****ton of food. And it's a level of restriction that that is next to impossible to maintain for most people. But it's not inconceivable that a diet approaching that might get the job done. It's not a lock, but it's possible.

I don't think it's even true. When I was a skinny 175 in the Marines in my early 20s my cholesterol was still 250.

And cardio wise I was in the best shape of my life with a low BF. This was pretty fresh out of TBS too. I'm thankful to have lived another 20yrs.

Who said I wouldn't escrow? Agree on terms and lets go.

And why don't you list some concerns around cheating so they can be addressed.
Other than fake weights I'm not really sure what else there is.

Either way I'm sure there would be easy solutions to provide satisfaction regarding verification of the accomplishments.

This is of course under the assumption that you were actually in the slightest bit serious which is quite the stretch.

This one is special because my arms are actually long for my body and you can see my ROM is much more than 2" lol. He's really reaching on this one, again which just exposes his level of delusion ironically.

Yeah, he might be wrong about that also.

But what I'm saying is that it's possible with a very restrictive diet for even you to have good numbers at 185. It wouldn't be fun. I'd rather just eat more normally and take the statin.

What I'm saying is that I don't think I can get low cholesterol #s naturally regardless of my weight or diet. I need the statin.

I would agree that is also possible.

I do think that if you followed an insanely restrictive diet with no cheating you could do it. But compliance is near impossible. You could also do it if you dropped a ton of weight. Like if you got in the 140s. I'm sure neither of these things is desirable for a variety of reasons. So you're probably just better off taking the statin if you end up needing it once you cut to your desired long term weight.