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05-02-2018 , 07:54 PM
Welcome back loco!

[checks PMs]

Hmmm, those PMs still seem to be pending, buddy.
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05-02-2018 , 08:38 PM
I did have two weak workouts this week now that I am not logging. So that's really a bad sign.

But my stress levels are down now that I am not spending as much time here. I am way ahead of my marathon training, so some EVgonnaEV workouts are going to be fine for now. But probably have to go back to logging 4 months before the marathon. When you follow a program and log, there is extreme pressure to stick to the program. Nobody wants to pull an EV and run a program for three weeks and then cry uncle.

If everybody logged a program and stuck to it, we would all be in perpetual gainsville. But it's hard to stick to one til completion. I am on week 8 of 10 on my current program, and I am going to get it done. But impossible for me to be where I am, without logging. Even a fitness God like myself doesn't have the motivation when there is zero accountability.
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05-02-2018 , 10:06 PM
Interesting... thanks for the feedback, even loco despite his clear rage and continued delusion that 11lbs of muscle awaits him absent any training with 600mg of the holy nectar he still somehow refuses to actually try. I was unaware of the Mike T info. Kinda funny that a few years back people in oly lifting said 'bulgarians/chinese can only do such brutal programs b/c of steroids' and now it's 'oak/wheels/stan/lilliebridge can only do such simple and low frequency/volume programs because of steroids', but I think the latter is in fact correct.

Although it's perhaps a bad time to experiment given that my first bbing contest approaches in 19 weeks, I'm going to do 3 days a week for no more than 1 hour on lifting and a heavy/light weekly scheme for sq/dl.

I'm not sure what my optimal cardio approach should be... maybe literally just long duration fasted brisk walking? Maybe HIIT under load with very low duration like a 15 min weighted carries and kb swings session post training? Or maybe just 30-40 mins on the bike 4x/wk. Or swimming?
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05-02-2018 , 10:11 PM
and pre-emptively before he explains how being 41 will hurt his fertility less than injecting a baby dose of test most bbers would balk at:

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...lity+protocol+
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05-02-2018 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoken
Kinda funny that a few years back people in oly lifting said 'bulgarians/chinese can only do such brutal programs b/c of steroids' and now it's 'oak/wheels/stan/lilliebridge can only do such simple and low frequency/volume programs because of steroids', but I think the latter is in fact correct.
AFAICT these are both correct, no?
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05-03-2018 , 01:46 AM
No I think the former is distinctly wrong and is basically a result of selection, growing up training a lot and developing the ability to train a lot from childhood, frequent massage and physical therapy work, and having 0 other obligations.

n=1, but Clarence is a very good case study for this. Despite drugs and probably the elite genetics part, he got annihilated training with the polish team. Because they've been doing it since they were 12-16 and he didn't start working up to that kind of frequency until much later.

All just imo, maybe I'm dead wrong.
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05-03-2018 , 03:13 AM
Grunching, but pressing 3-4x a week, squatting 2-2.5x and deadlifting 1-2x a week pretty close to optimal for a middle of the road guy primarily interesting in strength. Almost certainly does not hold for the true genetic freaks though, and no idea about steroids or physique people. Survivorship bias is strong.
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05-03-2018 , 05:48 AM
Ya, and the plethora of recovery issues. Shockingly going to bed and sleeping a lot. Not dealing with kids/significant others/etc all help.

This whole discussion is super aspie btw since it'll depend on the person, the type of training, etc. But carry on bros. Speculating on how some dude in the .01% roided to the gills and with elite physical tools in a bizarre fringe strength sport seems like something to stroke the ol neck beard on the internet.
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05-03-2018 , 09:33 AM
Emo ken,
Are there guys in the NFL that train super infrequently? (Not rhetorical, I don't really follow NFL anymore.) I do not know, but I would guess two things - 1-no and 2-that they've studied this closely for off-season training.
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05-03-2018 , 09:35 AM
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Ya, and the plethora of recovery issues. Shockingly going to bed and sleeping a lot. Not dealing with kids/significant others/etc all help.

This whole discussion is super aspie btw since it'll depend on the person, the type of training, etc. But carry on bros. Speculating on how some dude in the .01% roided to the gills and with elite physical tools in a bizarre fringe strength sport seems like something to stroke the ol neck beard on the internet.
As well as BB or Internet-strength celebs that are posted about a lot on the internet... the fringiest addition to this neckbeard cocktail.
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05-03-2018 , 09:56 AM
Oh, I'm sorry this discussion is bothering you guys. It probably would have been more appropriate for my log rather than the LC thread; I am mostly speculating/asking for advice to apply to my own programming design to fix about 16 months of stagnation, injury, and chronic pain.

Maybe Adian/Monte could move it.

But to address DT's point: Those are real athletes in a real sport with a dynamic skill. What us weekend jackoff warriors do is not comparable. I mean oly benefits from more frequency ceteris paribus, the the skill is fairly repetitive/static.

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05-03-2018 , 10:04 AM
An actual LC post: I'm 17 years late but I finally saw 28 days later. It was not what I expected; tonally. I expected it to be more action focused and vaguely tongue-in-cheek or irreverent like Resident Evil, but not a full fledged comedy like Shaun of the Dead. Instead I got a fairly emotional and character driven horror/thriller movie laden with all sorts of commentary on the human condition I probably would have loved 4+ years ago. But these days I just wanna see cool bio-engineered ninjas blonde hot babes fighting zombies. Still I liked it.

One thing I think it got very right that more zombie-movies should do is don't use the mystery of the source of the outbreak as some sort of hook or major plot "payoff"; I liked how it just told us right away before the main conflicts or characters of the movie were introduced. The Walking Dead goes in the opposite extreme, and for this reason among others I never made it past season 1.
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05-03-2018 , 10:14 AM
Ken,
Thanks for apologizing, but your talking about internet bb people is unfortunately unforgivable.

TV: Westworld is really good imo! It's not zombies, but

spoiler?:
Spoiler:

(conjecture) it kind of is maybe!
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05-03-2018 , 10:19 AM
I think it'd be cool to be called simply, "Ken" irl.

Westworld is great.
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05-03-2018 , 01:08 PM
28 days later was really great. 28 weeks later I found so forgettable that literally all I remember is that I watched it.
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05-03-2018 , 02:04 PM
28 Weeks Later is always better than I remember. But 28 Days Later is the superior film. It's tough to match the one-two punch of Danny Boyle (director) and frequent collaborator Alex Garland (screenwriter).
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05-03-2018 , 02:23 PM
I remember 28 weeks later having an amazing intro. Don't remember much else except the key plot point.
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05-03-2018 , 08:12 PM
You'll get no argument from me that Huffington Post is often anything but tabloid garbage. HOWEVER. Sometimes they occasionally deliver gems like this.

Superintendent Accused Of Pooping At School’s Athletic Fields

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One community member said there’d been at least eight deposits of evidence in the last few months.

A school superintendent in Holmdel, New Jersey, is facing some pretty crappy criminal charges after being accused of public defecation.

Although Sigismondi wouldn’t say how long the school’s athletic fields have been fouled, one community member told Patch New Jersey there had been at least eight poop detections in the past few months.

The accused “pooperintendent” has not responded to press inquiries, but he is due in court Monday to answer to the charges, according to NJ.com.
HuffPo reaching peak poop punnage. I may have finally found my calling.
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05-04-2018 , 07:24 AM
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I remember 28 weeks later having an amazing intro. Don't remember much else except the key plot point.
Recently rewatched it with gf. 2/10. Cool concept, second half is executed spectacularly bad. 0/10 characters, 0/10 plot. A prime example of how far movies and series have come, no movie released today would ever get above 5/10 with such a lolbad script.
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05-04-2018 , 07:30 AM
Sounds about right
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05-04-2018 , 08:18 AM
Dadbod transformation initiated (though to be fair, won't require much work)! Soulgirl is in great shape, having started her GOAFAD diet in the womb. Will prob wait till she's one with salsa training, two with master of wine course.

This will be pretty great imo, maybe even really k!
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05-04-2018 , 08:25 AM
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05-04-2018 , 08:32 AM
That's how you win. Congrats Soulbro.
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05-04-2018 , 08:32 AM
Congrats buddy!
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05-04-2018 , 08:44 AM
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