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10-15-2009 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyFondue
freeze the fish oil pills and you wont burp them I think
The kind I bought were made not to have that aftertaste, but every now and then I taste it. It's not really strong, but I'll try the freeze them also.

This is what I have: http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=44
10-15-2009 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 7ontheline
Sorry if you have mentioned this before, but are you diabetic? If not, why the **** are you checking your blood sugar? If you have normal insulin responses your blood sugar won't fluctuate that much.
No, I'm not diabetic. I've never been tested for it though. My grandma and mother are though so there is a history of it in my family.

I really think it's because I don't eat a lot. The only time I get that way is during/after lifting. During the day I'm just fine.

I'm thinking I need to do something that increases my blood sugar before I go to the gym. I probably need to eat more carbs.

Oh..and to answer why I am checking my blood sugar. My mom is diabetic so she has the glucose meter and I wanted to see what kind of change there would be. I'm planning on checking it on the days that I am feeling sick(er) to see how low it really is.
10-15-2009 , 01:42 PM
Drink chocolate milk before and after working out.
10-15-2009 , 01:47 PM
Ive played 8 hours of poker today, and its pretty much my first sesion of poker this month, stupid betting...
10-15-2009 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kyleb
Drink chocolate milk before and after working out.
What about Chocolate soy milk? Same effect?

I've tried drinking regular chocolate milk and it really gives me an upset stomach. I don't drink any milk as much as I used to as I pretty much converted to soy milk. Maybe if I get back into drinking regular chocolate milk on a regular basis I'll get used to it?
10-15-2009 , 02:10 PM
That's fine. I guess.
10-15-2009 , 02:15 PM
almond milk is like soy milk but more badass
10-15-2009 , 02:17 PM
Sounds like it. Never heard of it. Might have to check it out.
10-15-2009 , 02:20 PM
Almond milk doesn't have as much protein as soy milk. But it tastes really good and it won't turn you into a girl.
10-15-2009 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Soulman
Just read up on the myorep scheme, and goddamn that's some hard ****.

Basic concept: 1 set to failure (e.g 10 reps), then 3 + 3 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 1 or whatever, with hardly any pause between sets.

That better be insanely more effective than following Lyle's basic 2x5 twice a week scheme, sounds really hard.
It's different. It's also not as hard as you are making it out to be.

ie you generally don't go all the way to failure, rest several deep breaths between sets with longer rests for lower rep work, number of sets/reps is based on perceived effort, and there are much fewer exercises per workout. A hard upper workout could be 3-4 lifts with 1-2 myo-rep sets each (the 2nd being a drop set).

It's really supposed to be a more effective way to train a movement/muscle group. Like, instead of tarding around and doing 4x10 to failure on curls, one set of 10+3+3+2+2 might be sufficient. It's also useful for auto-regulating volume on this type of thing. I think it's a step up from DC training on several levels.

My training for the past 6 months has included a lot of myo-rep sets (I hate this ****ing name btw). If anything, I would say it's a method that is most useful for assistance work.

Also, for a full Squat or Deadlift, you wouldn't do any added rep work. 1-3 regular sets is usually sufficient.
10-15-2009 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ActionJeff
It's different. It's also not as hard as you are making it out to be.

ie you generally don't go all the way to failure, rest several deep breaths between sets with longer rests for lower rep work, number of sets/reps is based on perceived effort, and there are much fewer exercises per workout. A hard upper workout could be 3-4 lifts with 1-2 myo-rep sets each (the 2nd being a drop set).

It's really supposed to be a more effective way to train a movement/muscle group. Like, instead of tarding around and doing 4x10 to failure on curls, one set of 10+3+3+2+2 might be sufficient. It's also useful for auto-regulating volume on this type of thing. I think it's a step up from DC training on several levels.

My training for the past 6 months has included a lot of myo-rep sets (I hate this ****ing name btw). If anything, I would say it's a method that is most useful for assistance work.

Also, for a full Squat or Deadlift, you wouldn't do any added rep work. 1-3 regular sets is usually sufficient.
i have not researched this but isnt this virtually the same as rest-pause sets?
10-15-2009 , 02:48 PM
Just lost (quite badly) a basketball game we could have won.

I am going to try bottle this anger and use it tomorrow because it is heavy leg day.

Squats hurt but they suck a million times less than losing.

Last edited by That Foreign Guy; 10-15-2009 at 02:49 PM. Reason: OK maybe not a million times less. A hundred definitely.
10-15-2009 , 03:39 PM
i've got a problem, i am starting to feel some nagging pain at my right elbow where the tricep connects (just above the pointy bit)
it is pretty minor but i can feel it throughout the day, and i am a bit worried.

it does not really bother me during pressing exercises much though, which i find weird.

anyone have any suggestions what i could in terms of (p)rehab, or what might have caused this? i am still on SS for what its worth, and am once again failing my press at a 100 pounds (3/2/F).
10-15-2009 , 04:12 PM
in the muscle or in the joint? if it feels like it's inside the elbow i'd bet it's from squatting. if it's in the muscle, i don't know. it will probably just go away.
10-15-2009 , 04:29 PM
kyle/thremp,

what would you say are realistic lbm loss numbers for miles if he wants to lose 20 lbs of fat? With different bf % - let's say 20% and 25%. Assume optimal dieting/training, whatever you perceive that to be.

Also, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on how a person like that should go to say 12-15% bf with minimal LBM loss, and then continue gaining strength/LBM without regaining too much bf.
10-15-2009 , 04:37 PM
I'd probably buy a book at a website like this:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/

Then I'd do one of the diets outlined in it as pursuant to my BF levels, training history, and dietary restrictions.
10-15-2009 , 04:41 PM
That's not what's been discussed in this thread though.
10-15-2009 , 04:44 PM
Stupid questions get stupid answers. Is Miles just going to restrict calories by 200 a day below maintenance? He is still in the midst of a nub recomp, so perhaps -10/+3 over a 7 month span. If he tweaks his macros and moves to a serious CKD... maybe -18/-2. There really isn't enough information to answer any sort of question definitively as I doubt he has been keeping track of his calories and macros. Without a food log or any sort of baseline, much less a plan there is nothing to be discussed. The WLing corrollary to your question is.

Wanna get strong. How much can I put on my bench? What if I bench 150 or 200 now?
10-15-2009 , 04:52 PM
nope, i haven't tracked calories and macros. and really, the losing fat/lbm wasn't even a big part of the question. the question is really about the effect of training with a caloric surplus, which i have never done but would be able to do by first losing weight.
10-15-2009 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by milesdyson
nope, i haven't tracked calories and macros. and really, that wasn't even a big part of the question. the question is really about the effect of training with a caloric surplus, which i have never done but would be able to do by losing weight first.
You'll get stronger, quicker. But you're pretty nub so its not a huge deal. You'll blow up a good bit of strength dieting, but it may not be a big deal. I'd go for an actual diet rather than some sort of .3lbs of fat mass per week sort of gheyness.
10-15-2009 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by milesdyson
in the muscle or in the joint? if it feels like it's inside the elbow i'd bet it's from squatting. if it's in the muscle, i don't know. it will probably just go away.
not real sure i think its the tendon of the triceps, i'll just ice it and hope it goes away soon.
10-15-2009 , 05:25 PM
sounds like tricep tendonitis. I had it and just iced it alot and kept lifting and it went away after a couple weeks.
10-15-2009 , 05:28 PM
Thremp,

what other info do you need other than initial body fat % and weight to estimate possible bf/lbm loss given approach x (where x is whatever you deem to be appropriate, possibly different alternatives)?

A big part of establishing a goal (e.g. lose bf while maintaining lbm) is assessing what numbers you can accomplish. There's no need to be 100% accurate when assessing goals - this goes no matter what discipline we're talking, be it weight training, building construction, software development and so on.

So I'm at a loss to what factors you need to assess goal numbers besides bf %, weight and approach.Which is why I asked, since I assumed miles was interested (which I see he's really not, which is obviously fine) and I am definitely interested myself. It's obvious you can't give an exact answer, which is fine.

Edit: it should be fairly obvious why someone would be interested in numbers, since that might decide whether miles follows approach a or approach b.
10-15-2009 , 05:30 PM
No. I'd seriously just buy Lyle's book and read it and decide from there.
10-15-2009 , 05:44 PM
Heh...fine.

Afaik the only books of Lyle's that deal with dieting and exercise are the ketonic diet and rapid fat loss. I was unaware that the ketonic diet book dealt with exercise and fat loss in general, but I'm not very surprised considering Lyle's haphazard approach to pedagogics (?).

      
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