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08-20-2017 , 02:59 PM

#8401

El Diablo

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M,

Why did you fold on the flop?

08-20-2017 , 03:02 PM

#8402

Banned4lyfe

Sup-Bah? Pop-Bah Pooh-Bear Permanently Pooh-Bah Billy Walters Jr

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 11,808

Not sure you could have played the hand worse if you tried.

08-20-2017 , 03:09 PM

#8403

Black Aces 518

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Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 9,624

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton555

I'm no mtt player but pre seems like a 4b or fold, probably fold. You're probably behind MP's range and your hand doesn't have great equity in a 3 way all in.

Nah easy 4bAI in standard daily donkament unless we know both players are really nitty and obviously UTG is terrible. AKs and 25bb needs a great reason to not be all in pre.

08-20-2017 , 03:12 PM

#8404

Banned4lyfe

Sup-Bah? Pop-Bah Pooh-Bear Permanently Pooh-Bah Billy Walters Jr

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 11,808

MLYLT,

How much equity do you think you have on the flop?

08-20-2017 , 03:19 PM

#8405

ChiddyBang

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,867

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Aces 518

I think MLYLT's posts on this issue have actually been clear, logical and unemotional, as well as fair. It is progress for her to see some of the things she has mentioned, and to understand that a boyfriend does deserve to be there for his family. Certainly it is understandable that it is upsetting when someone shows the capacity to do these things for other people but never does them for you.

Hahaha, oh my.

Her posting is driven by emotions and manipulating code into paying attention to her. It's funny how well it works though. Code must be terrible with women.

08-20-2017 , 03:25 PM

#8406

MeLoveYouLongTime

Not a difficult personality

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 13,085

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe

MLYLT,

How much equity do you think you have on the flop?

26%, 7:1 pot odds to call
It was a mistake folding on the flop.

Black, these were nits, I put them on premium hands.

08-20-2017 , 03:44 PM

#8407

Black Aces 518

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Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 9,624

Nits don't raise 98s UTG. And sometimes nits will fold hands like TT-QQ when we jam which is an awesome result.

And if you think their range is that strong somehow, folding is better than sticking in 1/3 of our stack just hoping to hit (much less sticking in 2/3 of our stack just hoping to hit).

08-20-2017 , 04:14 PM

#8408

MeLoveYouLongTime

Not a difficult personality

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 13,085

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Aces 518

Got it. Thanks.

08-20-2017 , 04:17 PM

#8409

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 17,619

25bb AK is an auto stack off.
gotta do some gambling to win ya know.

08-20-2017 , 05:41 PM

#8410

All-inMcLovin

Wholesome Mod

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 51,921

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuma

25bb AK is an auto stack off.
gotta do some gambling to win ya know.

Yep.

Even if you think they might have PREMIUM you have blockers to AA/KK.

08-20-2017 , 06:28 PM

#8411

allinontheturn

'Merican Dullard

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 22,648

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe

Not sure you could have played the hand worse if you tried.

Could have called the flop AI then mucked her hand

08-20-2017 , 07:36 PM

#8412

El Diablo

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 68,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime

26%

How much did you have based on the ranges you put them on?

08-20-2017 , 08:49 PM

#8413

Bighurt52235

I was born to eat hamburgers

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 24,130

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime

Yesterday in the tournament, I had 25xBB in hijack position with AKcc.
Blinds 200/400, 50ante

UTG open raises to $1200, Mid P re-raises to $3200, I call, UTG goes all in for $3700 more. Mid calls with 40xBB stack and I just call instead of going all in which left me only $3100.
Flop: 10h10d2c
Mid pushes me all in and I fold.
Turn:K

UTG had 8h9h
Mid P had JcJs

I went all in a couple of hands later and was out. The only other almost decent hand I had all day was 44 and everything else was nothing but trash. I was at a table with a bunch of old man nits as well and couldn't make any moves. I basically blinded out, lost chips on a couple of straight draw, and then this play.

Omg just put the ****ing chips in

08-20-2017 , 11:09 PM

#8414

MeLoveYouLongTime

Not a difficult personality

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 13,085

Sunday:
1389cals, 0.6miles

Shooting for 7.5hrs of sleep

08-20-2017 , 11:17 PM

#8415

Renton555

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5,905

AKs is barely ahead of a 99+ AQ+ type range, which would be on the looser end of what I'd expect MP to 3-bet an utg open with. I'm pretty sure AKo is a snap fold in this spot and AKs is close.

08-21-2017 , 12:02 AM

#8416

Melkerson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton555

AKs is barely ahead of a 99+ AQ+ type range, which would be on the looser end of what I'd expect MP to 3-bet an utg open with. I'm pretty sure AKo is a snap fold in this spot and AKs is close.

You're giving live donkament players way too much credit here imo.

08-21-2017 , 12:19 AM

#8417

MeLoveYouLongTime

Not a difficult personality

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 13,085

I've been feeling much better this weekend and even got some things done around the house. I hope to get back to the gym next week.

Does this count as getting laundry done? Maybe it will make it to the closets before the end of the week.

08-21-2017 , 09:46 AM

#8418

27offsuit

actions have consequences!

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38,740

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Diablo

M,

Just use your blog thread the same way you were using the containment thread.

Many banned/exiled posters have been welcomed back to OOT after demonstrating good posting elsewhere on the site.

True.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton555

AKs is barely ahead of a 99+ AQ+ type range, which would be on the looser end of what I'd expect MP to 3-bet an utg open with. I'm pretty sure AKo is a snap fold in this spot and AKs is close.

Not when you botch the call for 3700 or whatever and leave yourself 3100. It is an autoship on any board whatsoever. Folding is just compounding your dumb 3700 call.

08-21-2017 , 10:31 AM

#8419

Renton555

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5,905

Yeah I was just talking about pre facing an mp 3bet cold. Of course calling and folding the flop was the wrong move.

08-21-2017 , 12:26 PM

#8420

SGT RJ

Twitching

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 48,792

I watch low level daily tournament play regularly and unless you've played with someone a ton folding AK here is a massive leak.

08-21-2017 , 12:46 PM

#8421

Black Aces 518

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Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 9,624

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton555

AKs is barely ahead of a 99+ AQ+ type range, which would be on the looser end of what I'd expect MP to 3-bet an utg open with. I'm pretty sure AKo is a snap fold in this spot and AKs is close.

You really are off here. This is a $100 donkament with 20 minute levels. We are an orbit away from being under 20 bigs. AK is a fistpump jam here. Post the spot in a MTT strategy forum here.

08-21-2017 , 12:50 PM

#8422

Montecore

RPElf = +EV

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 82,386

My only real concern with that hand in that situation is whether the sudden massive blood flow to my erection would make me black out before I finished putting my chips in the middle.

08-21-2017 , 01:10 PM

#8423

pokeraz

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,078

The next time I fold AKs in a $100 donkament will be the first time.

08-21-2017 , 02:41 PM

#8424

27offsuit

actions have consequences!

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38,740

I know a guy who plays $100 donkaments and will not raise AK pre no matter what and will also fold pre to a big raise. He is proud of it too.

"Not a made hand."