Thanks for confirming that that post was bull****. I figured as much when he didn't respond to me previously with further explanation, but I didn't know for sure.

I can't figure out why. I've slipped back into my old self and old habits of eating out for every meal. My drive has diminished over the past couple of months. I can't even get motivated to do things I like and enjoy. I started a book series 2 months ago and quit midway through the second book, and I've had a different book I've been carrying around with me for a month that I can't even get motivated to started.
It used to make me feel good to show code3 my progress.
I feel like a failure because I couldn'tt stop smoking as well. I'm starting again today to try again.
I'm meeting with a therapist/life coach today. He works a lot with drug addicts and seems kinda tough; I thinks that's what I need, someone to tell me to get my head straight and push through, and then give me a hug. I'm going to talk with him today about my sudden loss of motivation and why I can't give up smoking.

Breakfast:

My company is having this leadership/management outing at the lake today. They don't have much planned other that we are going to go sit out by the lake all day, so I'm going to go hiking for a while. We are supposed to have kayak races, so I'll go kick some as doing that as well. At least I'll get a little exercise in.

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while doing a prop bet with 27 might motivate you in the short term it is not a long term solution. you can't just do weight loss prob bets the rest of your life. hopefully your therapist/coach can help you find the right motivation.

it is amazing when you say egg whites are too expensive yet you eat every other meal. not only will grocery shopping and cooking at home make you healthier and help with weight loss but you will also save a lot of money.

and if you want this prop bet to get started, you need to come up with something other than the original set of terms that was ridiculous.

Make sure to eat something reasonably healthy and filling before you go so there are no excuses if there is something you deem irresistible at the outing.

Even proponents of fasting say you should fuel up before or right after workouts. Studies also have shown low blood sugar levels (which not eating any carbs will lead to) can lead to weaker performance both athletically and cognitively.

We are about to leave and I'm not sure what they are having for lunch. I don't have any snacks to bring.

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You didn't just find out about this I am guessing?

Is this outing in Obessa TX?

It's in Tatum

Nice goalpost shift, and no/depends on what you mean by fuel.


Depends. Are we talking marathons? Lifting not-so-heavy weights (i.e 99% of the lifting population)? 24 hour fasts? 48 hours? You can neckbeard with the rest of us in the LC thread if you feel like linking to said studies. I'd be especially interested in the cognition ones since I (and others in H&F) semi-frequenty fast for 15-16 hours.

Cit,

Lol, you were absolutely terrible at making this point. The first example is good, but the second (especially!) and third are totally whatever IMO. There are TONS of just completely absurd misspellings in her log to choose from that are WAY WAY WAY stupider than these!

Apatisers

Yep, agree on that totally El D. I have made the same point earlier in the thread that selecting the misspelled entries dramatically increases the chance that they are inaccurate. But "Jack Daniels" and "Dennys" are gonna be pretty ubiquitous.

MLYLT,

Good breakfast today. I strongly recommend you give exact descriptions, preferably with pics, of the food you eat if it is not directly out of a box or taken from the restaurant's menu/website where you actually ordered it. Logging inaccurately doesn't help you.

+1 to what El D and BA said. Let's solve the potatoe and apatiser before the Jack Daniel's.

Please quit expecting therapy to comfort you. Effective therapy won't. The payoff is long-term. That isn't something you do well with.

How did you settle on a therapist/life coach combo? That is not what you need at this stage. Get the therapy first. After you make progress, then a life coach might be helpful.

Still, congratulations on taking the initial steps. I am afraid you are just setting yourself up for more disappointment and frustration. It just doesn't sound as if you are committed to therapy. Or to losing weight. Or to stopping smoking.

I thought smooshing for schmoozing was the clear new front runner.

I'm skeptical that any "life coach" is going to have the medical background that MLYLT needs. What are this person's qualifications, MLYLT?

Ha, I had no idea what smooshing was.

He's a certified therapist, not a PhD. I'm also meeting with a woman with more qualifications next week. I'm gonna try them both out and see who I like better.

What is the evidence of a fat based diet and/or fasting leading to weaker performance cognitively?

Interesting approach. The only thing worse than no therapist is two therapists.

Pro-tip: Pick the non-hugger.

How are you going to decide which one you like better? The one that tells you what you want to hear? I really hope you're going into this expecting it to be hard, uncomfortable work. If you're just looking for someone to give you a hug, let you vent, be nice to you, and magically fix you like that 3-day quit-smoking book did, while you have the same resistance you've shown here to accepting difficult advice, you're going to have a hard time getting what you should out of it.