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08-14-2010 , 12:57 AM
A couple of beginner questions. Do cigarillos benefit from being in a humidor like regular cigars do? Also what sort of quality does "deluxe" humidor that the Full Tilt store have? Would it be acceptable for a first timer?
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08-14-2010 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by joblessmba
You guys that like strong cigars try those Olivia Cain line? F Torpedo's are really good.
will do !
08-14-2010 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Miyogi
A couple of beginner questions. Do cigarillos benefit from being in a humidor like regular cigars do? Also what sort of quality does "deluxe" humidor that the Full Tilt store have? Would it be acceptable for a first timer?
No idea about cigarillos and their need for a humidor, however I have both of the FTP humidors and reviewed them earlier in this very thread. Here's the post link

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=422
08-16-2010 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Miyogi
A couple of beginner questions. Do cigarillos benefit from being in a humidor like regular cigars do? Also what sort of quality does "deluxe" humidor that the Full Tilt store have? Would it be acceptable for a first timer?
i can never get cigarillos to last long enough to dry out, but they would if you did leave them out in the open air. a basic tupperware humidor would suffice for your first one, but if those ftps are burning a hole in your pocket, then by all means that one will do the trick.

the cigarillos will burn more evenly and slower (cooler) if you keep them in decent shape, but i doubt the effects of leaving them in the tin they come in will be noticeable unless you live somewhere very dry.
08-17-2010 , 12:56 AM
Ok thanks for the help guys. I had actually read that post bdc30 but for some reason thought it was in the FTP points store thread. I have an excess of points so I went ahead and ordered the deluxe humidor.
08-17-2010 , 06:31 AM
Just tried an Ashton ESG last week. Amazing smoke but a little too pricey. VSG's are also very good and reasonably priced.
08-17-2010 , 08:39 AM
Was looking for a quick smoke last night and sampled the Fuente Hemingway "Best Seller."

Cigar is billed as mild but smoked a little more on the medium flavor side. Taste was surprisingly sweet. Smoke lasted well over the 30 minutes I anticipated due to the fact that it was a much better smoke when nursed.

zero

PS. Still looking for time to smoke the Brazillia. I am getting over a cold and wanted to experience it in its full glory! (and maybe with some tea)
08-17-2010 , 08:46 AM
Has anyone tried the PADRON FAMILY RESERVE NO. 45 MADURO TORO?

I am browsing online now and it is a 95 rating box pressed maduro. The store claims it was the 2009 cigar of the year. I am thinking of picking up a box of 5 but at $130 the price is a little steep for never having tried it.

zero
08-17-2010 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by zerosum79
Has anyone tried the PADRON FAMILY RESERVE NO. 45 MADURO TORO?

I am browsing online now and it is a 95 rating box pressed maduro. The store claims it was the 2009 cigar of the year. I am thinking of picking up a box of 5 but at $130 the price is a little steep for never having tried it.

zero
havent gotten to these yet, but every stick of the 1926 series ive tried has been great. most recent was the perfecto, and thats a pretty damn good name for it.
08-17-2010 , 07:33 PM
the padron 45th I think was 2010's cigar of the year. Just had one the other night, it's a very good cigar, perfectly constructed and packed. Probably not that great if you prefer mild cigars or are relatively new to smoking though.

It's not cheap, but I don't mind having a couple in the humidor for special occasions.
08-18-2010 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by carnivalhobo
havent gotten to these yet, but every stick of the 1926 series ive tried has been great. most recent was the perfecto, and thats a pretty damn good name for it.
Great recommendation. I am going to check this one out for sure as perfectos are becoming my shape of choice.

zero
08-19-2010 , 03:06 AM
If you're looking for a cheap "go to" maduro go with the Sancho Panza Double Maduro. 5 packs are available at most sites.

Great medium bodied maduro at only around 50 bucks a box. I've tried most sizes and like the smaller Quixote the best, but they're all good.
08-19-2010 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by boomshay
If you're looking for a cheap "go to" maduro go with the Sancho Panza Double Maduro. 5 packs are available at most sites.

Great medium bodied maduro at only around 50 bucks a box. I've tried most sizes and like the smaller Quixote the best, but they're all good.
I was smoking La Flor Double Ligero's for a long time and they were cheap as well but prices have gone up. Now more like $8 a stick. Would the Quixote's stack up well?

zero
08-20-2010 , 03:36 PM
I went out of my mind just now and bought a box of 8 of the Padron 80th anniversary perfectos. Going to be saving these for very special occasions.

Will report back when I smoke the first one.

zero
08-20-2010 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by zerosum79
I went out of my mind just now and bought a box of 8 of the Padron 80th anniversary perfectos. Going to be saving these for very special occasions.

Will report back when I smoke the first one.

zero
Once a cigar gets dry? Will they get back their intended flavor if they are re moisturized over time in a humidor by themselves?
08-20-2010 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by joblessmba
Once a cigar gets dry? Will they get back their intended flavor if they are re moisturized over time in a humidor by themselves?
The problem is that the drying and remoisturization process tends to crack the wrapper and damage the cigars. I have not had much experience with reconstituting cigars but I can't imagine letting them get dry and reconstituting them is worth the effort compared to just keeping them well humidified.

zero
08-21-2010 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by zerosum79
The problem is that the drying and remoisturization process tends to crack the wrapper and damage the cigars. I have not had much experience with reconstituting cigars but I can't imagine letting them get dry and reconstituting them is worth the effort compared to just keeping them well humidified.

zero
So are aged cigars sealed in humidors for years? Then boxed and shipped out?
08-23-2010 , 11:10 AM
If the wrapper hasnt cracked or exploded yet, then they can typically be saved. These efforts usually take a minumum of 6 months though, with a year being very common. Usually people who bring some cubans back for you as a gift but leave them in a paper bag on a radiator or some ****. The key is not throwing them directly into a normal humidor as the rapid change in moisture will cause them to basically blow up. You have to bring them back to life slowly.

joblessmba,

most places cigars are made, you dont need humidors. think tropical.
08-23-2010 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by joblessmba
So are aged cigars sealed in humidors for years? Then boxed and shipped out?
I think it depends.

Sometimes cigar makers will use "Aged Tobacco" But ship cigars immediately after the aged tobacco is rolled up into cigars. I believe the Padron's I just purchased have tobacco aged for 5 yrs but are shipped immediately after rolling.

Sometimes I have heard of cigars being aged by the manufacturer before selling after they are rolled.

However in the case I am talking about, many enthusiasts will buy new cigars and age them allowing them to mellow and mature in their own personal humidors prior to actually smoking them.

Many of the reviews I have read about the Padron's I recently purchased said that aging them is the way to go.

However, in none of these cases is the tobacco allowed to dry out. It is kept in climate controlled conditions at all times.

zero
08-23-2010 , 02:34 PM
Over the weekend I smoked a Rockey Patel vintage 1992. It was a box pressed torpedo shape.

Smoke was very good, however the wrapper was not tight and was unrolling at the end almost immediately. By the time I got to the final third of the cigar the wrapper fell completely off ruining the last part of the smoke.

Overall the smoke was pretty spicy and flavorful. However I do not consider this smoke to be superior to the vintage 1990. The 1990 had a better shape, taste and finish in my opinion. Glad I didn't pick up a ton of these but in my opinion the guys who say that the 1990 is not as good as the 1992 are wrong.

So far my preference for RPs is

Vintage 1990 > Vintage 1992 > Decade.

Have not tried the RP Edge yet but my cigar shop also said RP is about to release a 15th anniversary cigar which is supposed to be good.

zero
08-23-2010 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by zerosum79
Over the weekend I smoked a Rockey Patel vintage 1992. It was a box pressed torpedo shape.

Smoke was very good, however the wrapper was not tight and was unrolling at the end almost immediately. By the time I got to the final third of the cigar the wrapper fell completely off ruining the last part of the smoke.

Overall the smoke was pretty spicy and flavorful. However I do not consider this smoke to be superior to the vintage 1990. The 1990 had a better shape, taste and finish in my opinion. Glad I didn't pick up a ton of these but in my opinion the guys who say that the 1990 is not as good as the 1992 are wrong.

So far my preference for RPs is

Vintage 1990 > Vintage 1992 > Decade.

Have not tried the RP Edge yet but my cigar shop also said RP is about to release a 15th anniversary cigar which is supposed to be good.

zero
So far I like the Patel Bros line slightly over the 92's and 90's. The PB's line had such a great draw and flavor.
08-23-2010 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zerosum79
I was smoking La Flor Double Ligero's for a long time and they were cheap as well but prices have gone up. Now more like $8 a stick. Would the Quixote's stack up well?

zero
I've never had the opportunity to smoke the double ligero line but for the price SP Dbl Maduros are tough to beat (in my opinion obviously). Most local B&Ms would probably have them for around 3 bucks a stick. (I haven't smoked cigars in a couple years so these prices may vary).

I also love the Don Kiki lines from Cuban Crafters (website). Greens are too light for my taste but the Reds and Browns are great cheap smokes.

Other favorites are CAO (Brazilias are the best but I've never been disappointed by any of their lines), Indian Tabac Super Fuerte Maduros, and I've always loved the Fuente Hemingways
08-23-2010 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by joblessmba
So far I like the Patel Bros line slightly over the 92's and 90's. The PB's line had such a great draw and flavor.
I'll have to try this again, taking it slower. It really ****ed me up last time so I'm scared of it now.
08-24-2010 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Taso
I'll have to try this again, taking it slower. It really ****ed me up last time so I'm scared of it now.
The sumatras where really good as well. 92' 90' have alot more depth of flavors. But to my beginner tastes sometimes less is more.

Anyone have that cool CAO white digital humidor? Trying to get my cigar guy to sell me one after the box is empty.
08-24-2010 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by joblessmba
So far I like the Patel Bros line slightly over the 92's and 90's. The PB's line had such a great draw and flavor.
Oh I totally forgot I had one of those also and it was also awesome.

My new order is

vintage 1990 > Patel Bros >> 1992 > Decade

The slight edge goes to the 1990 due to quality taste and size of smoke. Patel bros is definitely the go-to based on price. 1992 was not quite good enough for the price to me, and Decade was just too mild of a cigar for my tastes.

zero
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