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11-25-2011 , 10:37 AM

#2276

AlinMC

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,327

There are also Black soul gems, a bit more rare. They're the equivalent of Grand, except they capture non-creature souls (like imperials etc)

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11-25-2011 , 10:42 AM

#2277

Wallypop

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 5,189

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Originally Posted by 99killed

lol the wabbajack wtf

My only regret before selling this was that I didn't wabbajack any NPC's.

I mean, I don't know if it would have an effect, but man that would be funny.

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11-25-2011 , 10:44 AM

#2278

Sciolist

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I'm unclear on the benefits of having captured black souls. More charges for weapons but still the same stats as a grand?

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11-25-2011 , 10:51 AM

#2279

BASaint

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Originally Posted by Sciolist

I'm unclear on the benefits of having captured black souls. More charges for weapons but still the same stats as a grand?

i think its that although they have the same stats as a grand, they have more charge.

Last edited by BASaint; 11-25-2011 at 10:51 AM. Reason: just guessing

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11-25-2011 , 10:51 AM

#2280

Jackitos

srs biz

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 17,561

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Originally Posted by Sciolist

I'm unclear on the benefits of having captured black souls. More charges for weapons but still the same stats as a grand?

Same stats.
Humans/Humanoids are black souls
Creatures are normal.

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11-25-2011 , 10:57 AM

#2281

Sciolist

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Originally Posted by Jackitos

Same stats.
Humans/Humanoids are black souls
Creatures are normal.

Yeh, but that isn't really a benefit

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11-25-2011 , 11:03 AM

#2282

Imaginary F(r)iend

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,281

I had tons of fun turning on the god mode (tgm in console) and trying to ride my character off the highest mountain to Riverwood. When the horse dies it often launches the character. The character needs both the velocity to get down, dodge some trees and not to hit the ground for too long to start the animation for getting up. I almost made it, like 50 meters is missing.

I also bring companions up and use Unrelenting Force on them and watch them stumble down. I think I'm playing wrong.

Black souls sell for more

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11-25-2011 , 11:04 AM

#2283

MinusEV

Giftastic!

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 12,441

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Originally Posted by Wallypop

My only regret before selling this was that I didn't wabbajack any NPC's.

Spoiler:

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11-25-2011 , 11:05 AM

#2284

Jackitos

srs biz

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 17,561

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Originally Posted by Sciolist

Yeh, but that isn't really a benefit

Well, the benefit is that there are a lot of humans later on. Vamps/Necros etc, they have to go in black gems.

Creature grand souls are uh.. Mammoths are grand, I think giants are greater(not sure on that one), I really don't know a lot of the grand ones.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/S...m_%28Skyrim%29
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Souls

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11-25-2011 , 11:30 AM

#2285

nuisance

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How do you actually capture souls? Do you have to use a weapon that captures them or is there another way?

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11-25-2011 , 11:32 AM

#2286

Charmer

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Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,028

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Originally Posted by Sciolist

Yeh, but that isn't really a benefit

of course thats a benefit. probably at least half of all mobs are humanoid, all of which contain equivalent to grand souls. the other half are white, which maybe 10% of that 50% contain grand souls.

black and grand souls are exactly equivalent, no difference in charges or anything.

also worth noting that The Black Star is bugged and accepts white souls too (at least for me), making it pretty much the greatest thing ever.

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Originally Posted by nuisance

How do you actually capture souls? Do you have to use a weapon that captures them or is there another way?

either with a soul trap enchanted weapon or by casting conjuration's soul trap spell on them before they die.

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11-25-2011 , 11:45 AM

#2287

Sciolist

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Originally Posted by Charmer

You see, NOW you're mentioning benefits rather than pointing out a difference.

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11-25-2011 , 11:49 AM

#2288

ZeeJustin

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Originally Posted by ZeeJustin

Been trying to play a benevolent character, but impact, enchanting and smithing have made me way too overpowered (level 42 atm).

My original plan was to reroll as a thief, but I'm realizing I'll have enough perks to basically master all 3 branches.

If I start doing Dark Brotherhood quests and Thief's Guild quests will I make enemies that I don't want to make?

Like I said, I'm trying to play a benevolent character, become Thane in every city possible, etc.

Can someone answer bold please? I don't want to do all these quests only to get all the Jarls to hate me and guards to kill me on sight, etc.

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11-25-2011 , 11:50 AM

#2289

ZeeJustin

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Originally Posted by nuisance

How do you actually capture souls? Do you have to use a weapon that captures them or is there another way?

Best way is to get a weapon that captures souls. I didn't bother enchanting until I had one. The weapon made it very easy. Whenever you kill low level Draugrs in a dungeon you can fill all your gems very easily.

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11-25-2011 , 11:52 AM

#2290

Jackitos

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 17,561

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Originally Posted by ZeeJustin

Can someone answer bold please? I don't want to do all these quests only to get all the Jarls to hate me and guards to kill me on sight, etc.

I'm in the thief guild, no one cares. I have not been attacked because of it.

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11-25-2011 , 11:53 AM

#2291

ZeeJustin

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Thanks!

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11-25-2011 , 12:13 PM

#2292

Inso0

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Not only will the guards not dislike you due to being in the thieves guild,

Spoiler:

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11-25-2011 , 01:48 PM

#2293

Teh_Addict

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 89

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Originally Posted by ZeeJustin

If I start doing Dark Brotherhood quests and Thief's Guild quests will I make enemies that I don't want to make?

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11-25-2011 , 01:57 PM

#2294

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,724

i had a group of hired thugs (yet again sent by some brohan real mad i stole all his ****) attack me while i was standing next to the mage's college archmage

things did not end well for the hired thugs and i got a pretty fireworks show

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11-25-2011 , 02:05 PM

#2295

diskoteque

Joey Local

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 30,420

Ok, my smithing finally hit 100 and my enchanting is not too far behind at 75 or so.

i haven't put ANY perks into these two skills yet. it seems dumb to put any in smithing since i war light armor and all the smithing gear is heavy armor, right?

what enchanting perks are worth it?

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11-25-2011 , 02:07 PM

#2296

Wallypop

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 5,189

I had hired thugs attack me in that little town with the mage Jarl and the burned down house, and I just stood in the water and fired arrows at them while they stood on the end of the dock and watched me kill each of them. CLASSIC!

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11-25-2011 , 02:09 PM

#2297

nuisance

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You can smith light Armor (that's all I use) I've actually been selling my dragon bones since I'll never be able to make heavy armor them anyway.

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11-25-2011 , 02:37 PM

#2298

ZeeJustin

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Originally Posted by diskoteque

Smithing is worth it even for light armor. There are two smithing paths. Left is light armor. Right is heavy.

Despite that, right has the best light armor (dragonscale). Use the perks of the right path.

For enchanting, get all the 20% upgrades, and the dual enhancement thing.