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viper mid is my new favourite pick

dominates just about anyone in lane and only gets shut down if the supports gank.. and at my mmr the supports basically never gank

Really hoping to see the following heroes nerfed in next balance patch:

1) Razor
2) Viper
3) Death Prophet

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09-09-2014 , 05:49 PM

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tinker nerf plz.

minimal void nerf

minimal doom nerf

minimal lycan nerf

remove some of that insane movement speed on skywrath

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09-09-2014 , 06:10 PM

#8003

PoppaTMan

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Can you even nerf Doom without just breaking the hero? Seems like there have been incremental nerfs (eg devour mana cost) for a couple of patches now. It's just a broken hero design, imo.

Lycan seems like a pretty obvious candidate due to ban/pick rate in pro games.

Chrono cooldown is too short, but I seriously doubt they're just going to revert a change from last patch like that.

Skywrath is fine so long as void gets his comeuppance.

I love seeing tinker in my games, as they're inevitably trash. Not sure if he's OP at higher skill or pro games.

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09-09-2014 , 06:13 PM

#8004

Dr. Wily

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There needs to be bigger changes than just hero nerfs and buffs.

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09-09-2014 , 06:23 PM

#8005

Kirbynator

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Why? game's been pretty entertaining apart from a few boring heroes (razor/dp/doom)

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09-09-2014 , 07:10 PM

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Maybe buff towers or something? And punish counter pickers more by costing more gold when they don't pick.

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09-09-2014 , 08:06 PM

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IPlayDonkaments

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I think tower bounty will probably be lowered a bit. Push heavy line-ups are too strong at the moment. Apart from that Brew Doom Sky Razor Void are gonna get hit hard. Also a new item would be really cool.

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09-09-2014 , 08:10 PM

#8008

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oh yeah **** brew

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09-10-2014 , 12:28 AM

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pretty insane that in around 300 progames(i think) in 6.81, void is only 47% win

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09-10-2014 , 03:06 AM

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oh mah gawd LGD going warlock+bristleback against iG, thats like my dream combination.

AND THEY GOTZ DEM A NEW FAN

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09-11-2014 , 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

pretty insane that in around 300 progames(i think) in 6.81, void is only 47% win

nerf universe, void is fine

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09-11-2014 , 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

pretty insane that in around 300 progames(i think) in 6.81, void is only 47% win

ya he s 1 of 2 heroes i have a good record with so i paid attention when the stat was shown:

in pros he s like 57% win as offlane, and only like 44% anything else. the overall was about 47%

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09-11-2014 , 02:37 PM

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nerf universe, void is fine

i think hes 16-1 on him... so **** insane.

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09-11-2014 , 05:30 PM

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09-11-2014 , 07:53 PM

#8015

Dr. Wily

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Chessie is sooo bad, how is he on alliance really

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09-11-2014 , 07:58 PM

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Kirbynator

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chessie was also considered to take fear's spot on EG

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09-11-2014 , 08:31 PM

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Dr. Wily

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they really dodged a bullet then.

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09-11-2014 , 09:37 PM

#8018

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why do you think he's so bad?

so far it's often hit or miss but he's had some good games mid

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09-11-2014 , 10:22 PM

#8019

Dr. Wily

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watch his tinker game against mym. He's the worst pro tinker player I can recall watching.

too many bad decisions and misplays for me to point them all out, but the game speaks for itself.

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09-11-2014 , 10:34 PM

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as bad as zai's meepo? :O

on another note: I saw a guy on dotabuff with 3200 games as OD, and 1100 as phoenix. There were a couple with like 100 games then the rest <20.

Dafaq

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09-13-2014 , 05:37 AM

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i think hes 16-1 on him... so **** insane.

his chronos in the (i think) 2nd last game EG played at TI4 were astounding

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09-13-2014 , 07:47 PM

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goddamn its taking me more games to do 4400>4500 than 3800>4400.

Guess im getting near my value, or good variance meets bad variance yadda yadda.

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09-13-2014 , 10:58 PM

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I want to see someone start at 2K right now and grind to 4500. Not sure how you do it in solo queue with 1-2 *******s / Peruvians / Sniper mid or I quit every game.

That said, won 7 of last 8.

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09-13-2014 , 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jwax13

I want to see someone start at 2K right now and grind to 4500. Not sure how you do it in solo queue with 1-2 *******s / Peruvians / Sniper mid or I quit every game.

That said, won 7 of last 8.

If you are significantly better than your opponents it should be easy to maintain a near 80% winrate going solo mid and being vocal about targeting.