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Not sure how I feel about Christmas update.

I especially dislike the increase in HP for several buildings, making 50% raid more difficult.

Any thoughts?

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12-10-2014 , 06:04 PM

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rjoefish

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They're adjusting other hp, some down like camps. Not real worried.

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12-10-2014 , 06:11 PM

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Richard Parker

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Not true. They're only nerfing camps while increasing HP for: cannons, barracks, dark barracks, laboratory, spell factory, and DE drills.

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12-10-2014 , 06:13 PM

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Dutch101

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The building hp changes won't stop 50% raids. The archer towers will if you try to do it with a barch army.

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12-10-2014 , 06:15 PM

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Richard Parker

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Originally Posted by Dutch101

The building hp changes won't stop 50% raids. The archer towers will if you try to do it with a barch army.

It will make it much more difficult in plain math. More HP makes it harder to take down a building.

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12-10-2014 , 08:38 PM

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rjoefish

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The preview says they're adjusting a bunch of other buildings. Could be down, doesn't say.

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12-10-2014 , 09:21 PM

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Richard Parker

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Ya, I just made that list out of blue...

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12-10-2014 , 09:41 PM

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rjoefish

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I mean, it feels like you think I'm calling you a liar? I'm not trying to do that at all, I understand the changes and what they've said.

I might be wrong and this is fake but it's where I got the other building change stuff from. Note the second to last entry under Combat Balancing.

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12-10-2014 , 09:51 PM

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I feel like they are def making a push to make barch harder. The 4th mortar, now this archer tower change. I get it and kind of like it. A bunch of upper level bases (th8-10) using tier 1 troops all the time seems kinda lame the more I have thought about it. I think it is cool they are pushing people to be more creative, use more strat, etc

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12-10-2014 , 10:04 PM

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Richard Parker

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ROI is down the drain the moment you start using more costly troops that also takes more time to build.

Lower ROI leads to longer time to upgrade.

Bottom line, Supercell is pushing people to buy more gems.

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12-10-2014 , 10:06 PM

#2511

rjoefish

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Who actually lightnings buildings other than ADs or Mortars though? Seems like the overall HP changes (slightly higher other buildings, way lower camps) could be a net push?

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12-10-2014 , 10:07 PM

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I kind if agree with RP. They aren't doing much to increase available loot - another level of collector is negligible compared to making barch harder.

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12-10-2014 , 10:12 PM

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Richard Parker

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Originally Posted by rjoefish

Who actually lightnings buildings other than ADs or Mortars though? Seems like the overall HP changes (slightly higher other buildings, way lower camps) could be a net push?

One argument I heard is that the change has to do with champions league, and it makes sense, considering that max lightning isn't even available pre TH10 and few would make it a priority upgrade in TH10.

All I know is that trickle down effect sucks for me. If barching isn't going to work, I don't see how I can keep playing this game.

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12-10-2014 , 10:17 PM

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Although.. there will always be abandoned THs.. so maybe the game just remains clicking "next"

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12-10-2014 , 10:20 PM

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Number of abandoned THs has dropped to garbage level.

Game is probably getting more popular and there aren't that many abandoned towns to go around.

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12-10-2014 , 10:20 PM

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We have to wait and see and all that but I'm not really worried about BARCHing being viable. I can't because if it's not I have no idea what I'll do lol

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12-10-2014 , 10:21 PM

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rjoefish

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Number of abandoned THs has dropped to garbage level.

Game is probably getting more popular and there aren't that many abandoned towns to go around.

Good news being that eventually there will be more abandoned bases when a lot of the new folks give up?

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12-10-2014 , 10:24 PM

#2518

Richard Parker

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Ya, but the thing is, each active player can easily rack up x number of raids using barch in one sit-down.

So the number of abandoned bases would have to be significantly higher than number of active players in order for such raid to be viable. By then, this game is probably as dead as OFC poker.

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12-11-2014 , 12:18 AM

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Dutch101

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The amount of abandoned bases you can find is controlled by supercell. They had to admit they remove bases from matchmaking when people left bases inactive for weeks without being attacked. I am sure supercell will keep loot at their sweet spot just frustrating enough that enough people buy gems but not so bad that too many people quit.