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04-08-2015 , 10:11 PM
Afraid that might be the case. I missed the "true" ending but did fight that guy.

Hate, hate, hate everything about the Rom boss fight confirmed. On it with my second character now and it's not juste bitching - it's that fight just sucking.
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04-08-2015 , 10:15 PM
Unbelievable disappointment if this is true. I'll have to do some research tomorrow to be sure.
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04-08-2015 , 10:33 PM
can't click spoiler have not finished!

Weird things happened today. I set out to explore the forgotten woods some more, after doing a little yesterday. Recalled an area I hadn't noticed before on the way there in cathedral ward, so went there to check it out. Killed some things, was given a "tonsil stone"...

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It's description (and the guy that gave me it said so too) tells to go to the right of Vicar Amelia, where the weird vortex thing appears and invisible demon thing lifts you up and instakills you... curious, I did go there, I did get insta-killed again but this time a cutscene and the creature revealed itself.

I woke up transported to "Lecture building", which was kinda odd place but not much going on? Opened the "door to outside" and it loads again, in "Nightmare frontier". Instantly a bell maiden is summoning PVP enemies, some bastard turns up in ~30s and kills me with a damn kirkhammer! I was... unprepared forgot to heal until it was too late even. Should have shot him with that insane slow weapon.

So I reload, collect my echoes (right near the lamp since it happened so fast) and explore a little. Enemies here are viscous, and hit really hard! look about a bit, but don't hang around here too long. Madman's knowledge and what are probably chalice ritual mats lying about all over.

So now I have another headstone active, with these two locations on it. Not sure what to do really, or even how they relate to the story at all lol.


Probably will forget about it all for a while and go back to exploring the forgotten woods.
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04-08-2015 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by spimp13
Unbelievable disappointment if this is true. I'll have to do some research tomorrow to be sure.
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Originally Posted by _dave_
can't click spoiler have not finished!
I'm gonna guess you completed it and missed out on something by making a wrong choice somewhere along the way?

I wouldn't worry about it. There's always NG+, NG++ or another playthrough from the start with a different build focus. If you've seen it on reddit, I am quite tempted to try the "warlock" build lol. Looking at trophies compare, somehow at this point I have one you do not! so I'm guessing you missed an area or two along the way (or I got very lucky)

My plan (after the first few hours and seeing what it's all about) was to play through first time with as little guiding as possible, exploring everything. Then NG+ if sensible or another replay, following a guide or two to make sure I get the Platinum Trophy, Alternative endings or anything else I missed (which I'm sure there will be plenty!)
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04-09-2015 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
I'm gonna guess you completed it and missed out on something by making a wrong choice somewhere along the way?
I don't want to spoil it so only PM if you want to avoid the disappointment that happened to me for the end. It has nothing to do with missing an area or boss. I'm still steaming over it...fun game but absolutely awful ending for what happened to me, especially when you are unable to "re do" it.
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04-09-2015 , 09:02 AM
How does the difficulty of Father G and Blood Starved Beast rank in comparison to the rest of the bosses? I'm trying to gauge how hard this game is/how much I suck against the possibility of the first couple bosses just being a tad more difficult than average.
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04-09-2015 , 10:57 AM
Father G is one of the easiest bosses. It seems like a lot of people have trouble with the blood starved beast though. The toughest fights for me have been Paarl and the NPC hunter on the tower. It's all about count g how many swings an enemy makes with an attack before their stamina runs out imo.
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04-09-2015 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by spimp13
I don't want to spoil it so only PM if you want to avoid the disappointment that happened to me for the end. It has nothing to do with missing an area or boss. I'm still steaming over it...fun game but absolutely awful ending for what happened to me, especially when you are unable to "re do" it.
I should clarify it has nothing to do with missing an area or boss within the body of the game. I know I did. I use NG+1 to take a potential different build and find those areas. What I am talking about is the end of the game to which I will not elaborate any further...let's just say they should institute a reload/redo button lol.

As for the bosses the Starved Beast was challenging purely on the poisoning aspect. I also struggled with the tower NPC until I came back leveled up. None of the bosses seemed too powerful if you leveled up accordingly imo. I was at level 90 when I beat the game with about my stats spread out between vitality, stamina, strength, and skill. I didn't touch the other two.
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04-09-2015 , 12:39 PM
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How does the difficulty of Father G and Blood Starved Beast rank in comparison to the rest of the bosses? I'm trying to gauge how hard this game is/how much I suck against the possibility of the first couple bosses just being a tad more difficult than average.
I think there is quite a wide distribution of experiences in these early bosses. It maybe comes down to at what point you got a grasp on some mechanic, got more familiar with your weapon of choice (or picked up a different one that suited you much better) or even just when you levelled up in relation to meeting them.

I had lots of difficulty with both Cleric Beast and Father Gascoigne. Both were certainly 10+ attempts, and probably an overnight break before success. For each of them I learned a trick of some sort that made it doable. For both (as mentioned above):

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I don't use molotovs until they are nearly dead, then can finish them off "safely" if I have managed a good run. This was particularly useful on Gascoigne with his troublesome beast form.


Cleric:
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I found you could retarget the lock on camera using direction inputs in the right stick. If aiming for his head, a few pistol shots and he'll stagger, allowing a visceral attack. After a bit he'll heal "red glow", then you can do it again!


Gascoigne:
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By keeping camera lock on at most times, enables circling a clump of gravestones keeping him on the opposite side. This causes most of his bullets to miss, and him to often do slow-recovery attacks into the gravestones out of being able to reach you. Once noticing the timing, given he's now not nearly so much of a threat - allows you to see his telegraphing, get in to position and charge up your own R2 attack to damage him heavily.

Once knowing beast-mode was coming, wait for it to start and rain molotovs / run away!


I took a while to find BSB, encountering Vicar Amelia first which as documented in several posts above gave me serious trouble for a long long time. For others, she was one of the easier bosses! During this struggle, I put on 30+ levels, upgraded weapons a lot. explored a lot, got familiar with the blunderbuss instead of pistol, all sorts of improvements in my game. Giving up on Amelia, I went for BSB, found him to be fairly easy. Probably only 5 deaths or so. Again a trick to his patterns was exploited:

BSB:
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He is a fast bastard, but seems to lack ability to strike behind. Early on I luckily found a dodge forward into his swipe was very effective, and would land me a good distance behind him in safety. Using 2h axe for greater reach, a few R1 attacks and dodge back/away, put some distance between you, line him up lengthwise in the room, repeat.

Poison management / ideally don't get hit at all makes this quite tricky if it starts going wrong.


Back to Amelia, although now I am super-levelled and have Axe +6. 100 vials in stock, tons of molotovs etc. Last time I faced her I have actually run out of vials entirely, from a full storage. Expected a lot of looking at loading screens, but killed her first try on this day!

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Obviously improved damage output is very useful. Seems with the higher damage, I was able to hurt her legs enough to stagger her with the attacks I could get in before she retaliated. Previously I could dodge to the side, get in 2 swipes then back off, or I'd be met with a sweep attack and 3/4 of my health lost. Going for the 3rd attach was suicide. Now, the 3rd (or even 2nd) swipe to the leg will stagger her, and I can continue attacking her another 4 times or so while she's on the ground. Her recovery animation from stagger is also very slow, allowing plenty of time to back off to safety.


I think at this point I have learned the required timing for a dodge-roll or a lock-on dodge much better than when I fought Cleric or Gascoigne. I think BSB taught me it. It's very late! compared to when I was dodging when first fighting Amelia. I'm also much improved with knowing the ranges and the move sequence of my axe in 2h mode.

On to Paarl, quite different to some other posters here probably the easiest fight I've had. 3 efforts total, the 1st was just finding him and using bold hunter mark to escape. 2nd I messed up and insta-died, third try I killed him in a minute or so. Was almost harder to get there running past those bag-men.

Paarl:
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Dodge roll underneath him as he attacks, R1 R1 R1 2h axe to the legs. he staggers, attack more. Think I got 2 viscerals on him in this fight, mostly by accident. As usual, was planning molotovs to finish him off but didn't need to this time round.


Accidental wall of text!

One tip I read for boss battles, it's probably a good one - don't go all-in first time round, if things don't start off so well. Save your vials, molotovs, antidotes etc. Use the first few times just trying to dodge, stay alive as long as possible to observe their behaviour for the cheapest price (don't want to have to farm supplies before a "real" attempt).
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04-09-2015 , 01:36 PM
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Dragon Warrior had the same

>Fight final boss
Die like a bitch

Option at the end.
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04-09-2015 , 01:46 PM
Jfc I really can't get over how terrible this Rom fight is. Almost made me quit first time through. Second time through just realize how stupid and terrible it is compared to pretty much every other boss fight in every other Souls game.

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04-09-2015 , 10:31 PM
Bed of Chaos tho
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04-10-2015 , 08:28 AM
Beat Gascoigne! Why can't I have a mini-gun?

Where do you see the token you got for
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helping the rude old lady to the church?

It doesn't show up in my inventory.
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04-10-2015 , 08:29 AM
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Bed of Chaos tho
Dragon god... One could almost speculate that Miyazaki does it on purpose
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04-10-2015 , 10:06 AM
Father Gascoigne gets a little more aggressive in NG+1 especially his second phase wow. I almost had him twice but he's gotten me so far about 5-6 times and I'm at level 92ish...might need to upgrade my stamina some more so I can dodge more often lol. I'm pissed I missed out on the bloodrock the first time through so no +10 on either of my two main weapons sigh. Maybe this time I'll get one assuming I make it that far.
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04-10-2015 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Beat Gascoigne! Why can't I have a mini-gun?

Where do you see the token you got for
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helping the rude old lady to the church?

It doesn't show up in my inventory.
Nice! The game really opens up at this stage I think there's about 5 new areas you could access now from here. Everything gives more generous blood echoes too in these parts.

The token given is probably a new gesture? I think you equip them by pushing one side of the touchpad.

A tip I read that is really useful - if you aren't sure if an npc is friendly or not (and are wanting not to kill friendlies by accident) - try locking on to them with R3. It won't lock on if they aren't an enemy.

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I'm pissed I missed out on the bloodrock the first time through so no +10 on either of my two main weapons sigh. Maybe this time I'll get one assuming I make it that far.
Oh now I get you, that sucks I believe you can get only one per playthrough, but also one (and only one ever) from Chalice dungeons so you could hunt one there in shared glyphs if you have unlocked that far.
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04-10-2015 , 06:04 PM
Area after Rom is no joke
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04-10-2015 , 07:24 PM
I suck at this game way more than DS1 or DS2. I farmed 70k worth of blood echoes trying to beat the Blood Starved Beast (lost 30k of them). So around 35 times before he finally died (had him around 10% a handful of times). Good news is I have a metric ****-ton of blood stone shards, and am level 40 at what seems the beginning still.
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04-10-2015 , 10:03 PM
Some boss talk ahead, but mostly chalice dungeon bosses.

I had a hell of a time with a few bosses, Rom in the Chalice dungeon, Amygdala in the cursed chalice dungeon, but once I beat them once I was able to beat them pretty handily in the future.
Watchdog of the Lords gave me a ton of trouble until I figured out his moveset exactly and how to attack.
Luckily with Ebrietas, every time I faced her in a chalice dungeon there was something in the middle so it was super easy.
Darkbeast Paarl was really tough in the chalice dungeon (summoned someone in the game and it was super easy. just visceral attack and he loses his electricity and keep the pressure on), eventually killed him alone in the chalice dungeon by levelling up a ton.

The abhorrent beast is impossible without poison knives and just running around avoiding attacks in my opinion
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04-10-2015 , 11:27 PM
was surprised to see this screen shot appear on reddit yesterday: http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/c...r_modern_game/
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04-11-2015 , 07:38 PM
Progress question, just beat the Lumenflower boss:

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**** YOU EBRIETAS SO GLAD UR DEAD

So, she gave me this chalice that requires a ****ton of stuff I don't have to use, and as best as I can tell my only options forward are:
- my Pthumelerejurein dungeons
- the Nightmare areas

Is there somewhere else I'm missing or do I have to do that stuff now?
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04-11-2015 , 08:55 PM
Goofy - there is one hiddenish optional area you've prolly missed and I assume a lot of others have too. I didn't get there on my first playthrough either.

You'll prolly have to Google if you or anyone else wants to find it. I didn't even realize it was in the game til I started using the web on my second run through.
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04-11-2015 , 08:58 PM
I think I did go there, actually.

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Cainhurst?
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04-11-2015 , 09:15 PM
Yeah. Just randomly found it? I completely missed the path to get the summons in my first play through.
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04-11-2015 , 09:32 PM
I missed it too. Was reading about that area afterwards and it mentioned where that path led to.
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